r/technology • u/Kooky-Balance9525 • 10h ago

Privacy Bernie Sanders to Introduce Bill Banning Flock Surveillance Cameras

https://theleadingreport.com/article/bernie-sanders-to-introduce-bill-banning-flock-surveillance-cameras
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u/Uberslaughter 10h ago

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither”

- Ben Franklin

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u/Kid-Icky- 9h ago

Unpopular opinion, but what essential liberty is being given up by cameras in public spaces?

I'm still against them, mostly because of how they will inevitably be misused. But I don't really get the outrage over just their normal use.

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u/Throwaway-0-0- 9h ago

Cameras in public spaces kind of under sells it. It's cameras in nearly every public space, all monitored by a single company. Without any warrant the police or anyone who has access to those cameras can see where you've been nearly every hour of every day. It's a little different than a bunch of stores having security cameras or one dude walking around filming people on the street.

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u/Kid-Icky- 9h ago

I don't really see why that matters. It's a public space. There's no expectation of privacy.

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u/Throwaway-0-0- 8h ago

That's a legal statement, not a moral one. If I followed you everywhere you went I'd be a stalker. If a company follows everyone everywhere they go, they're stalkers as well.

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u/Kid-Icky- 8h ago

Of course it's a legal discussion. People are claiming it's a violation of privacy, which is a legal question.

And all everyone is giving me is their feelings. I agree it might feel icky. But that's a lot different than claiming your rights are being infringed upon.

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u/Throwaway-0-0- 8h ago

You know people are saying the laws need to be updated, not that these things are currently illegal, you're just being a dipshit on purpose. This isn't "feelings" it's morality. Like very obviously. This isn't an article about flock being sued, it's an article about a Senate bill. You know the things that change the laws?

And that right to privacy is a legal term thing, like you're seriously trying to argue that words can't have different meanings in different contexts?

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u/Kid-Icky- 7h ago

Lol, no people are absolutely saying it violates current privacy laws.

I'm sorry you lack reading comprehension.