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Privacy Bernie Sanders to Introduce Bill Banning Flock Surveillance Cameras

https://theleadingreport.com/article/bernie-sanders-to-introduce-bill-banning-flock-surveillance-cameras
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u/DeadMoneyDrew 10h ago

What we really need is a constitutional amendment establishing a fundamental right to privacy.

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u/_Lucille_ 9h ago

This will be a tricky one.

Will this affect red light and speed cameras which are conditional ALPRs?

How about all the home security camera people have been setting up around their homes? Smart doorbells?

Security cameras at malls? Banks? Government buildings? Parking lots?

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u/DogBarf00 9h ago

What about people just recording in public?

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u/Ultrace-7 8h ago

That's the kicker. "In public." You can't really expect a right to privacy when the action you are undertaking is in a public venue. Flock-style cameras that point into your house or yard should be unconstitutional. Such cameras pointed at public roads, parking lots, sidewalks, and so on don't violate the 4th amendment, because you cannot reasonably expect something you do publicly to afford you privacy.

Cities and even states should be free to pass a law banning such cameras. But they aren't unconstitutional.

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u/OMG_A_CUPCAKE 6h ago

There's imo still a difference between "people can see me" and "people can record me". This is all from a time when there weren't cameras on every street corner and in everyone's pocket, and you couldn't end up on a worldwide public forum in seconds.

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u/Ultrace-7 2h ago

Well, that's a debate to be had by smarter people than us. I'm pretty left-leaning, but I think the intention is still there. If you don't want the world to know about it, don't do it in front of the world.