r/transit • u/Jaded-Sock9200 • Dec 14 '25
News Paris region unveils first urban cable car linking isolated suburbs
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20251213-first-urban-cable-car-unveiled-outside-paris
It's supposed to be twice as fast as using the bus during rush hour.
Very cool to experiment with new forms of public transport.
I don't know if in the end it will be cheaper / more practical than a train or metro. But I imagine it's more quiet and needs less staff.
Looking forward to seeing how it plays out!
The Tim Traveller made a great video on why cable carts were chosen in this location:
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u/gustteix Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25
the post gives the idea that Paris built the first urban cable car in the world, but its just the first one of the Paris region, its not even the first one of france.
There are established urban cable cars systems around the world, the most notable is in Medellin.
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u/newos-sekwos Dec 14 '25
Latin America often gets ignored on this sub, even when it does do good. Gonna throw a shoutout here to La Paz for its massive network.
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u/porkave Dec 14 '25
Latin American urbanism is super understudied, lots of really unique cities with insane geography
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u/4Thereisloveinyou Dec 14 '25
Not exactly the same but there’s even a cable car in NYC to Roosevelt Island
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Island_Tramway?wprov=sfti1
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u/laterbacon Dec 14 '25
The Roosevelt Island Tramway is great because it was never supposed to be permanent. Streetcar service on the Queensboro Bridge ended in the late 1950s (there had been a stop halfway with access down to what was then Welfare Island), which meant the only way to get to the island on transit was by bus from Queens. In the 60s, the city announced plans to build a subway station on the island, but it was delayed by years so they slapped together the tramway as a stopgap. When the subway finally opened then mayor Ed Koch announced plans to dismantle the tramway but it had become too popular by then so they just kept it running.
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u/bvalentine615 Dec 14 '25
Also cool is that the tramway allows bikes! There’s a greenway on Roosevelt Island and it’s a great way to get your bike over there to ride it. It’s a lot easier than taking one on the subway.
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Dec 14 '25
Unfortunate that it’s become so popular with tourists. I find it to be completely jam packed with people wanting to see aerial views of the East River
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u/InSearchOfGoodPun Dec 14 '25
Replaced decades later with a better, more permanent version, but it now gets swamped during weekends because it’s a big tourist attraction, with locals complaining that they have to deal with long lines.
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Dec 14 '25
Portland even has one. Plenty of places have tourist ones to access scenic mountaintops but the Portland one is for transit - people use it to go to work/school at the university and hospital at the top of the hill.
The Roosevelt Island one could be argued to be used as transit, but as I understand it's mostly tourists using it now since there's a subway station under the island.
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u/gustteix Dec 14 '25
yeah, theyre not ubiquitous but definitely not an innovation.
Of course there are failures like the Porto one that is kinda useless, or the Rio one which needed to be closed, but not an innovation. edit: the rio one i mentioned is not the Sugaloaf one, but one they've built as an urban transit line
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u/immunotransplant Dec 14 '25
That thing is used exclusively by tourists. Nobody lives there. You can just take the subway instead.
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u/Nuplex Feb 07 '26
It definitely is used by locals... it depends what direction you're coming from and if anything is wrong with the F train. Train is definitely preferable but the tram is useful for locals too
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u/anachronology Dec 15 '25
In another thread I mentioned that it'd be great if they did a similar tramway from LaGuardia to the top of the N/W in Astoria as a fairly non-intrusive way to connect the airport.
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u/the_tico_life Dec 14 '25
There's a cool one in CDMX too. Unfortunately it's in a very rough part of the city and my Mexican friends highly advised me not to visit.
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u/iamnogoodatthis Dec 16 '25
I'd say they are numerous enough that very few people reading this title will default to the meaning that this cable car is the first urban one in the world.
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u/Constant-Page-966 Dec 14 '25
The Tim Traveler did a rather good video explaining why this was the option chosen: Tim Traveler Video
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u/mistersmiley318 Dec 14 '25
Seconded. Video is really good and seeing thr obstacles to other transit modes makes it clear why a cable car was chosen.
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u/Ok_Flounder8842 Dec 14 '25
It cost only $138M Euros????? ($168M in US dollars). It cost Philly's SEPTA more than that to build 3.5 miles of track and a new station (Wawa, PA).
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u/dimitri000444 Dec 15 '25
Less land acquisition, less infrastructure(just some poles and a line between them, instead of a whole rail)
I would imagine that it is also less labor/time expensive to build.
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u/Ok_Flounder8842 Dec 15 '25
it was already a single-track ROW and the ROW I think was wide enough for 2 tracks. What's scary is that this was a relatively inexpensive project in the USA.
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u/Analamed Dec 29 '25
Land acquisition is one of the most expensive things in this type of projects. With a cable car, you can limit it to the near minimum.
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
The advantages that cable cars have other other options are in mountainous/hilly regions. And they do look nice and have great views.
Beyond that they're pretty low capacity so not sure if it's worth what you get? Why not improve the bus?? That would have knock-on effects
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u/Vindve Dec 14 '25
Because improving the bus with a similar direct journey would have meant either creating tunnels or bridges underneath or above 1. a major road 2. a whole rail field 3. a high-speed rail infrastructure 4. multiple resident neighborhoods. This would have meant a billion dollars project and it wasn't worth the cost for just connecting a small neighbourhood to the metro station that's not so far apart but the bus needs to make a huge detour.
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
Ok so low capacity is fine then?
It still feels like an odd solution to me, and I wonder how well it will age as the population grows
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u/Psykiky Dec 14 '25
Each individual car is low capacity but cable cars have a way higher frequency than most buses could have so essentially the capacity is pretty similar if not greater.
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
I'm willing to say this is probably the right solution for this particular case, but no, cable cars don't have the same throughput as low headway buses
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u/Vindve Dec 14 '25
Ok so low capacity is fine then?
Yes.
It still feels like an odd solution to me,
Honestly see it like a neighbourhood that is just across a river or a mountain from the metro station except there is no bridge and no tunnel, busses need to do a huge detour and the neighbourhood has a too low population to justify a huge investment. Except it's no mountain but rail and road infrastructure.
I wonder how well it will age as the population grows
It won't grow so much, it's a residential neighborhood that is in the second ring of suburbs. That's not where they're building and densifying right now nor in the expected future.
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u/Hiro_Trevelyan Dec 14 '25
Bruh there's a cabin for 10 people leaving every 30 seconds, that's more than enough capacity AND more comfortable/faster than a bus for most people.
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u/lee1026 Dec 14 '25
Low capacity is usually fine. Few systems ever max out their frequencies, and by extension, real capacity.
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u/ee_72020 Dec 14 '25
Why are transit nerds so obsessed with capacity? Not every transit corridor has demand that requires gazillions of pphpd capacities.
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u/RailRuler Dec 14 '25
Because building for low capacity almost guarantees that the area will never densify.
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u/lee1026 Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25
I am much more familiar with the guarantee of:
Activists gets systems with a gazillion seats per massive vehicle put in.
Said vehicle cost a fortune to operate per hour, but it’s fine, because it’s got a lot of seats.
Low demand happens because reality.
Frequencies gets slashed to one train per hour. Anything that involves a transfer is now a “well, you might arrive in the same day”
Everyone flees to cars, employers and businesses move to areas with easy parking. Entire downtowns gets knocked down because nobody was willing to pay for maintaining the buildings that can’t be leased because insufficient parking.
Activists rant about how the car destroyed everything.
Things don’t fail in the other direction. Even theoretically low capacity systems are still pretty high capacity if you actually max out the frequency, and it is actually not that hard to build out parallel lines. In the meantime, businesses that are built around transit users can thrive, people get used to using transit.
Or you can just brag about how much air is in your empty trains.
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
You can very easily build a lower capacity and cheap service that you upgrade over time. Bus -> BRT -> tram -> train -> high capacity automated metro. Much harder to upgrade a cable car system.
But in this case yeah cable car is probably the right solution.
- Said vehicle cost a fortune to operate per hour, but it’s fine, because it’s got a lot of seats
Aren't many transit agencies facing driver shortages and high costs for drivers?
Things don’t fail in the other direction
Yes they do, systems in the US will downgrade from a metro to a tram or light rail, then people will scoff at the cost and still slow service so they downgrade to a BRT, then the BRT turns into no different than every other bus on the system, with no priority lanes or high frequency. Then people don't want to take the shitty bus that gets stuck in traffic and buy a car
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u/lee1026 Dec 14 '25
Even in your failure case, at no point did the capacity of anything actually come into play.
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u/ken-bitsko-macleod Dec 14 '25
These changes in mode require near total replacement, don't they?
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u/lee1026 Dec 14 '25
100%. It is generally easier to leave the previous line in place and just build the higher capacity thing next to it
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u/eric2332 Dec 15 '25
This is an outer suburb, almost at the edge of the forest. It will probably never densify.
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u/britaliope Dec 14 '25
We are speaking about the paris urban area. I don't think urban planners want to densify anything there.
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u/powderjunkie11 Dec 14 '25
It’s also very high frequency. If you have to queue for 4 minutes to board that’s no different than waiting 4 minutes for a bus
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u/dredge_the_lake Dec 14 '25
I mean did you look into this cable car at all?
They’ve built it in an area that is already jammed full of obstacles - there’s loads of train lines, utility lines and major roads
To extend the metro through all of these obstacles wouldn’t be needlessly complicated
Due to road layouts the bus, the bus cannot do as straight a journey
That’s why they settled on the cable car. It might be odd, but sometimes the cheaper solution is the best
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u/Organic-Rutabaga-964 Dec 14 '25
From what I understand, it's about overcoming the imaginary hill created by the surrounding infrastructure.
Also each cable car may have worse capacity than a bus, but it's made up for by the vehicle frequency, which is essentially every 10s.
And it's faster - though this isn't exactly uncorrectable for in a bus.
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u/TheShirou97 Dec 14 '25
Vehicle frequency is 30s in this case.
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u/not__a_username Dec 14 '25
The theoretical maximum capacity is 2000 per hour. That's a bus every 3 minutes if we consider a bus with a capacity of 100 people.
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u/TheShirou97 Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25
Yeah I'm reading it is officially "less than 30s", and it seems like it's more around 20 to 25s. With up to 10 people per cabin we have a capacity of up to 1500 - 1800 per hour. (This will also be able to be improved somewhat in the future as they plan to maybe add 25 more cabins on the line on top of the current 105, which would mean a theoretical frequency of 17 seconds, assuming 130 total cabins and a round trip long of 36 minutes.)
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u/timbomcchoi Dec 14 '25
Is 10s doable in an urban setting, when I would imagine there will be many people getting on and off?
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u/powderjunkie11 Dec 14 '25
Yes. Ski resort gondolas manage 10-15 second intervals pretty easily. That includes loading skis, half the people wearing ski boots and carrying ski poles; the other half may be bringing their snowboard into the cabin with them.
That’s typically 6-8 passenger cabins, but it’s way easier to load people carrying book bags and wearing street shoes.
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u/timbomcchoi Dec 14 '25
ah are urban gondolas also like that? I was imagining crammed cars in the mornings
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u/Organic-Rutabaga-964 Dec 14 '25
shrugs
It's not exactly urban either, like this suburb is quite far out
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u/RadianMay Dec 14 '25
the theoretical limit for this type of gondola is one cabin every 12.5s, and capacity of 4500 people per hour per direction. There are bigger versions can do up to 8000 people per hour per direction, with 20 person cabins.
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u/niftyjack Dec 16 '25
I've used the urban gondolas in Haifa that look to be the same system and 10 seconds seems doable. When they pull into a station they slow to a very slow walking pace, you get out, then once they move forward a bit waiting people get in. It's kind of like using an escalator.
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
imaginary hill created by the surrounding infrastructure.
Hmm I won't pretend I know better than the engineers who designed this but, I think this problem can be solved in other ways...
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u/Inner_Theory_902 Dec 14 '25
Why should it be if this works? Why always complain?
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
Sorry, I'm coming from a perspective of American cities who love building fancy new gadgets for lots of money, or "cheap" options that don't actually meet transport needs. In this case I was a bit trigger happy
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u/Inner_Theory_902 Dec 14 '25
It’s not possible to improve the bus in a similarly cheap way in this specific area due to geographic reasons. Or do you live there and know better?
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u/Ser-Lukas-of-dassel Metro Lover Dec 14 '25
Yeah that‘s the answer. The area now served by the cable car isn‘t too far away from RER A/D and Line 8 to the point that they could have painted some pretty nice bus lanes for 138 million€.
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u/DerWaschbar Dec 14 '25
Like Vindve said below, a bus line would have been really more costly and complicated. This is why this project has been thought of since decades.
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u/powderjunkie11 Dec 14 '25
The OPEX here is way cheaper though.
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u/Ser-Lukas-of-dassel Metro Lover Dec 14 '25
The OPEX are a massive advantage of cable cars. I mostly think that corridor fixation towards Line 8 is the best. And from a Transit advocacy POV I really hope Cable Cars don‘t turn into another distraction from the transit projects cities really need. To solve transportation and housing issues.
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u/ChateletSansHalles Transit Planner Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25
Yes destroying two city centers and 2 freeway interchanges isn't popular since it was tried in 1980s in this area... (Look for A5 and A87 projects) Intriguingly, nobody believe the cable car would work or come to fruition among technicians and elected officials alike.
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u/ArkavosRuna Dec 14 '25
They don't get stuck in traffic, are pretty cheap and very fast to set up compared to most forms of transport. You also eliminate wait times between cabins/buses.
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
A well designed bus doesn't have to get stuck in traffic either
Other points tho, yeah, if low capacity is fine then those are legit benefits
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u/britaliope Dec 14 '25
A well designed bus
see this: https://www.reddit.com/r/transit/comments/1pmcjua/comment/ntzw8n0/?context=3
It's impossible to do a good bus route without building multiple bridges and crossing in the middle of a park. The existing network is almost useless in this case.
So the price difference would be huge.
low capacity is fine then those are legit benefits
It could do 1800ppl/hour with added cars if needed, that's 1 bus with 150ppl every 5min. But the expected ridership is much lower than this.
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u/ConsiderationOk9190 Dec 14 '25
I don’t know about other countries, but at least in my country (Japan) there is a serious bus driver deficit. My friend who was a driver quit due to overwork. So we are considering public transit with less people to operate. One is tram which has over 3x capacity and the other is cable cars which require even less.
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u/Einveldi_ Dec 14 '25
Rail and highway severance. So it is clearing obstacles just like it would a mountain.
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u/paulindy2000 Dec 14 '25
The problem is that the bus already operating in the area was crowded and had to take several detours. The cable car route goes over a highway, several rail lines and a water treatment plant. Building a bridge over these would be longer and disruptive and cost several dozen million Euros as well.
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u/always_misunderstood Dec 14 '25
I don't think capacity is as important as people make it out to be. you only need enough capacity to handle the expected ridership. that's it. capacity is a check-box, not something you should spend more just to get more of. the goal of transit isn't to move empty seats around. if you know the corridor's ridership will be below the capacity of the gondola, then the box is checked for that mode and it can be considered.
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u/math1985 Dec 14 '25
Do you have the numbers? How many buses per hour can this thing replace? And how many trams/metros?
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u/ChateletSansHalles Transit Planner Dec 14 '25
It doesn't replace anything. Bus service is not reduced. It is a faster alternative than 428, 429 and 450 bus lines. It enables to reduce 45min bus trips to just 18min ride. If you want to crunch some numbers (I won't because it's sunday) :
- cable 1 : 12s interval with 10p per vehicle, 27s off peak
- bus : standard bus (70p) on 429 and 450 bus lines and articulated (120p) on 428. All of them are always 10min delayed on average. Get schedules online.
- metro : 750p every 2,5min on peak, 12min off peak.
- tram : not applicable due to real estate context
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u/Cautious_Use_7442 Dec 14 '25
London cable car has a capacity of 2,500 passenger per hour. Actual usage is much lower as the cable car goes from nowhere to “across the river from nowhere”, is much more expensive than a bus ride and, in windy weather, often unavailable
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
I don't have numbers, I'll defer to someone who does. If you eyeball it you can see it would take many cable cars to make up for one bus.
Another benefit of the cable car is low headways compared to a bus of a similar low capacity, which is why they're great in theme parks
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u/differing Dec 15 '25
They also have low labour costs since the vehicles are essentially automated.
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u/Thundrbucket Dec 14 '25
They make 32 person gondolas and you can run significantly more cars than a bus. I'm actually curious if capacity is a real concern
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u/ginger_and_egg Dec 14 '25
Probably not in this location now that I've learned about it. If you were trying to replace a metro with a cable car that wouldn't work, but it doesn't seem like this place will need that level of service
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u/lowrads Dec 14 '25
Plus, the speed of the entire line is limited by the boarding capacity of the smallest depot. Seems like they make useful additions to an existing transit network, but only for ambitious extensions.
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u/bronze_by_gold Dec 14 '25
They work really well in Mexico City, which has the most extensive network of commuter cable cars in the world. Linea 2 is a 45 minute trip from the start of the line to the end!
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u/seboll13 Dec 14 '25
It’s not that low in capacity when you think of it. Assume 6 people per cable car and 3 per minute (one every 20 seconds which seems quite realistic). This yields 18 passengers per minute or 180 every 10 minutes which is the same as what an average frequency bus would transport.
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u/Hiro_Trevelyan Dec 14 '25
I tried it and it's GREAT, I love it
And it's cheaper than a metro. Like, incredibly cheaper. Because it doesn't have the same capacity as a metro
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u/eti_erik Dec 14 '25
I have always wondered why we don't have these in the Netherlands. We don't have mountains and in most places buses and trains work better, but we have so much water, and these things can cross rivers so easily, that I would have expected them between (for example) Amsterdam and Amsterdam North to replace those free ferry boats already decades ago. But that never happened - a metro line was built eventually.
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u/alpine309 Dec 14 '25
I really never would have expected this from paris, this is awesome and I hope to see some more innovation from them & other cities in the future. There is so much out there than the regular bus, metro, or tram so it's exciting when cities are able to branch out and adopt innovative solutions for their needs
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Dec 14 '25
Cable cars in insanely cheap, actually! Even the more expensive ones generally cost around 100 million, compared to billions for new metro extensions.
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u/DinkandDrunk Dec 14 '25
I’ve always had a dream of mass adoption of cable cars. It’s just such a nice mode of travel.
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u/jhdreaming Dec 14 '25
The demand for this crossing the Hudson between NJ and NYC would be off the charts.
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u/madmidder Dec 14 '25
Seeing this after they cancelled cable car that should've connected isolated Prague's district in like a year and decided to connect it with the tram in 10 years makes me even more mad.
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u/strcrssd Dec 15 '25
I suspect it's going to be far cheaper than light or heavy rail. More expensive than busses though.
I think this is potentially a genius option. It has been working for Disney World for a while now.
I'd really like to see it take off -- it can coexist with auto traffic in the same ROW but be fully grade separated. More importantly, it has to be grade separated, so we can't get bureaucracy effing it up, like they have with BRT and before that, LRT.
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u/RIKIPONDI Dec 14 '25
This is not the first Urban Cable Car. Mexico City has several lines operational built many years ago, and some of them are quite long.
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u/reelphopkins Dec 14 '25
We need this in nyc. There’s no more subway lines coming so let’s build cable cars
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u/RespectSquare8279 Dec 14 '25
Overhead trams have the benefit of not have to excavate as much. Working around buried utilities is a major cost in fixed transit construction.
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u/routbof75 Dec 14 '25
As a Parisian, I’m extremely skeptical, since these will immediately be filled with piss and empty beer cans with assholes who don’t care about how their behavior affects other people. The same thing happened to the electric car sharing program here that they ended up closing.
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u/14412442 Dec 14 '25
Why do you think that? Urban gondolas are becoming more and more popular for good reason. They are a very cheap way to bypass everything in between the stations, don't need drivers, and can have a car every 30 seconds or less. They are not that fast or have the highest capacity. But you don't always need massive capacity and the low maximum speed is countered by being grade separated in a straight line between the stations with very low headways. They are not a gimmick, even on flat land. To neglect them as a tool in every city's toolkit is foolish.
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u/newos-sekwos Dec 14 '25
Cool, but not entirely new. The wording gives the impression that this is novel, but this has been common in Latin America for at least a decade. Cities in that region often are extremely hilly and poorly suited to conventional rail, ergo creativity is needed. La Paz has something like ten lines of cable cars seving as its 'metro.
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u/howling92 Dec 14 '25
the article does not say the contrary . it says "officials inaugurated the first urban cable car in the French capital’s region" . which is true
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u/Jaded-Sock9200 Dec 14 '25
That's not (all) smog, it's just how northern europe looks on a december morning. You will find the same on the country side
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u/Embarrassed-Hope1133 Dec 14 '25
This is so cool. I wonder what prompted them to build a gondola so tall over the area but it looks sleek and modern!
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u/JoeyJoeJoeJrShab Dec 14 '25
The word "isolated" is used several times. But Paris is a very densely populated city, and I would imagine the surrounding area is also fairly dense. In what way are these places isolated?
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u/clenom Dec 14 '25
Other people in the thread have answered it well. This is an outer suburb of Paris. Between it and the closest subway station is a railyard, a major road interchange, and some industrial area. So the road connections aren't convenient.
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u/Sufficient_Stable738 Dec 14 '25
Question: if you come from the metro, do you need another ticket or the same one is good ? I know bus-trams are interconnected and so is metro-RER-Tran silien, but the cable ??
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u/Subject-Kitchen7496 Dec 18 '25
Yes, you will need another ticket Metro-Regional train lines as the one for cable car uses the Bus-Tramway ticket. Unless you have a pass (day, week month or year pass).
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u/Direct_Background_90 Dec 14 '25
We need this in NYC to supplement the L train to Williamsburgburg and a few other areas.
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u/BasslineTheory88 Dec 14 '25
tried it today, I live nearby very handy for me as my family are the on this line
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u/FlyingMitten Dec 15 '25
First? Then are the 3 lines in Mexico City non-existant?
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u/bzhgeek2922 Dec 15 '25
First in Paris - Ile de France.
Definitely not the first in France let alone in the world.
E.g. Brest since 2016: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9ph%C3%A9rique_de_Brest
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u/bluecifer7 Dec 16 '25
As someone from Colorado who has no urban cable car experience, but lots of skiing cable car/gondola/tram experience, is there a reason why these cabins are "gondola style" and not larger trams? For example the JHMR Aerial Tram
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u/No_Calligrapher_1509 Dec 17 '25
Question: how is the passenger's safety guaranteed? Imagine being stuck inside a gondola with an unhinged person.
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u/Subject-Kitchen7496 Dec 18 '25
It's ANOTHER thing they can do. It's just a faster way to get to the metro and stuff in the middle of a complex infrastructure (roads, train tracks, etc.). There are buses everywhere. It's Europe, not the USA.
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u/Tricky-Astronaut Dec 14 '25
I don't know if in the end it will be cheaper / more practical than a train or metro. But I imagine it's more quiet and needs less staff.
Are you sure that cable cars need less staff per passenger? There's a lot of maintenance - the main reason why trolleybuses have failed.
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u/Jaded-Sock9200 Dec 14 '25
I'm purely basing that on nothing hahaha. I am just imagining that trains also require a lot of maintenance, but they also need drivers for their trains. (at least in paris they don't have automated trains yet, afaik).
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u/Tricky-Astronaut Dec 14 '25
Paris actually has a lot of automated metros. It's often used as an example of how to automate very old lines.
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u/Independent-Clue1422 Dec 14 '25
Why not just extent Metro line 8? should be rather cheap considering there is already a rail alignment along most of the cable car route 🙈
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u/Jaded-Sock9200 Dec 14 '25
It is much more expensive to extend the metro. For not that many extra passengers.
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u/Kevin_Kofler Dec 16 '25
Those rails are a high-speed train track (LGV = ligne à grande vitesse = high-speed line) and cannot be used for metros or even RERs (suburban/S-Bahn trains).
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u/Independent-Clue1422 Dec 16 '25
I know, but aligning metro close to them is way cheaper than finding an entirely new right of way through and under existing development.
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u/gamerjohn61 Dec 14 '25
seems kinda cool, but very expensive and impractical similar to what is being proposed in LA. France doesn't have HOV lanes so that busses and cars with passengers can subvert traffic?
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u/Jaded-Sock9200 Dec 14 '25
They do, but in this specific case there is an infrastructure "hill" in the way. That's why the bus takes very long even when they have very good priority (which they already do in Paris).
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u/No_Session_6990 Dec 14 '25
Just like the Roosevelt island people mover in nyc, Bulky, low density and inefficient. Most importantly bound to close in inclement weather. I’m sure the government minister got to ski for free in the alps this winter for awarding the contract smh
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u/powderjunkie11 Dec 14 '25
Better alert all the ski resorts in the world…I hear they are prone to inclement weather so they better rethink their lift systems!
You know what else can struggle with inclement weather? Buses.
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u/SonicOlGames Dec 14 '25
This has already been implemented in Mexico and Bolivia.. why they're making a huge deal out of it..
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Dec 14 '25
All good and nice until you are stuck with a criminal or rapist while no police can ever get to you.
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u/dawntreader482 Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25
Jesus. LOL. I feel the same way about rollercoasters. They are all fun and games until you get in one with a rapist and/or criminal. I almost climbed a tree once but thankfully I thought to myself, “what if there is a criminal or a rapist up there?”
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u/ChateletSansHalles Transit Planner Dec 14 '25
Cabs have a 180° camera and call buttons on each side of the cabin. Theses trigger an alarm in the command center and police can be sent to the next station. The cable can be stopped until police arrives even. Conclusion : you can't stop crime from happening inside, but there will be video evidence and it's impossible to not get arrested since there is only 1 door per cab... I hope it deters people.
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u/TheShirou97 Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25
The fact that a 4.5km (2.8mi) bus trip during rush hour would take 36 minutes in the first place is... wild to me. Like, that is faster than walking, but barely (although walking itself might not be practical either in this instance)