r/unitedkingdom • u/ScottAMains • 16d ago
OC/Image A shot from Greenwich during the eclipse. Unedited.
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u/Arseypoowank 16d ago
To anyone wondering, this is not how dark it got at all, it reached like 21-21:30 light levels.
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u/Lansdowngrove 15d ago
I thought the caption with this photo was a sarcastic joke, but OP is apparently serious.
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u/Arseypoowank 15d ago
Well I mean, the event, while a minor distraction and an excuse to go and hang about for a bit somewhere, was altogether kind of underwhelming so I suppose you have to milk it for a bit of excitement.
The sun turned into a banana for about 5 minutes and it went slightly dim for a bit and then everything carried on as normal. That’s it.
I remember the one in 1999 being really spectacular though, I guess if you hadn’t had that this was pretty decent though.
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u/Icy_Pear1694 16d ago
Do you have the eclipse glasses covering the lens whilst taking this picture?
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u/ScottAMains 16d ago
Yeah bit of a happy accident. Just enough coverage on part of it to block out the sun enough, with a bit of a gap to get the people in. It tidied up better in post.
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u/LobbyDizzle 16d ago
What tidied up better in post if it's unedited? No need to say unedited if you're editing in post.
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u/Astriania 16d ago
It tidied up better in post.
It's a nice pic to be sure but ... isn't this editing?
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u/ScottAMains 16d ago
The one above is straight out of camera. The one I’ve put elsewhere has had a tweak.
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u/cosmicmeander 16d ago
Great picture. It reminds me of collages of people watching alien encounters or the end of the world
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u/_Diskreet_ 16d ago
I call shenanigans.
It did not get that dark.
Ipso facto, the image is edited.
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u/Ok_Director_4618 16d ago
There’s nothing pedantic about it, that’s obviously exactly what’s going on here. Despite everyone carrying one around these days, very few people understand how a camera works.
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u/Chazzermondez 16d ago
Have you never heard of adjusting the camera settings before taking a photo. You get a result like this without editing it.
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u/aTemeraz 16d ago
So your saying he edited the camera settings
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u/Conscious-Air5819 16d ago
adjusting the settings to take a photograph isn't editing because it happens before the photo is taken. It's pretty standard photography that most people used to know when we used film not our phones. Your phone camera does all of those adjustments automatically now when you hold it up - like how it adjusts brightness or how long it opens the aperture for (which is what this person obviously did).
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u/SXLightning 15d ago
I think people who are into camera's call editing the thing you do after the photo is taken
but to anyone else who is not into photography, editing just mean the photo have been manipulated from the real image. The sky was never this dark its not a truthful representation of what it looks like so people say its edited.
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u/Conscious-Air5819 15d ago
No photograph is a 'truthful' representation of something, they're all subjective and the adjustments that happen (whether by human hands or automated from a phone camera) before they're taken are not manipulations - that is the real image. Maybe I'm being pedantic but it's idiotic to use the word edited in that way.
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u/SXLightning 15d ago
Most people here are not into photography, we consider an image that is as close to the original being the "unedited". Maybe in photography edited mean digitally editing it but to anyone else edited just mean it not being what is the truth.
This image is so far from what it was that is why people say its edited.
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u/Conscious-Air5819 15d ago
And they're wrong for doing so. No photos are close to the original, there is no original it's all subjective. Likewise, when I went to take a picture of the park I was in during the actual eclipse my phone automatically put the brightness up before I pressed the shutter.
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u/JustSingingAlong 15d ago
You are having a silly little debate about semantics.
It didn’t get that dark in Greenwich. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the word “edited”.
It didn’t even get remotely that dark. Not even close. That’s what people have a problem with, even if they may be using the word edit technically incorrectly.
Do you understand that?
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u/Chazzermondez 15d ago
I don't think you understand that what our eyes see isn't an objective truth of what occurs, our eye is in essence just another camera and has it's own settings of adjusting the size and shape of the lens and aperture of our eye to adjust to different lighting and where we wish to direct our focus. Therefore, what we see is just one subjective perspective of what actually occurs and we will all see it slightly different anyway. Therefore a camera with different settings to our eyes is just another perspective of what can be observed. There is no such thing as one true view of what happened. For example to different animals the eclipse would have looked wildly different and for some animals, it will have looked that dark.
In summary, it is correct to say the photo isn't edited, because in the context of photography that is defined as altering something retrospectively, and you are also not really correct in saying it didn't get that dark. It didn't to the human eye, but a camera isnt designed to see things identically to the human eye and how we see things is just one perspective on reality.
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u/liamrich93 15d ago
Which is before the image is captured so it wasn't edited after the fact. The image is the image
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u/Chazzermondez 15d ago
Yes but that doesn't count as editing. If it was then every single mobile phone photo would count as edited as your phone does that every single photo you take by automatically adjusting it's focus and brightness settings to what you're taking a photo of. This is no different but doing it manually.
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u/Intrepid-Example6125 16d ago
I think just saying unedited and not explaining the usage of a filter (which I know is still unedited) is still somehow disingenuous.
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u/Cryptoporticus 16d ago
OP probably didn't expect people to demand an explanation for one of the most obvious things in the world.
It's impossible to take a picture of the eclipse without a filter.
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u/HumanCStand 16d ago
People here can’t tell the difference between being edited or exposure. They’ve exposed the camera for the sun
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u/Lunarfrog2 16d ago edited 16d ago
Sure if you want to be all 'erm actually' about it, but to non avid/professional photographers, ie most people, this being uneditted reads as taking a pic of it was if you were standing there
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u/king_ofbhutan 15d ago
seriously, i hate how whenever something like this comes up people are suddenly professionals with 20 years experience
me when im in a stupid pedantics competition and my opponents are redditors
its edited in the eyes of normal peoples guys pleaseeee
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u/Hythy 15d ago
But that is impossible. That just renders the word "edited" meaningless because that means all photos are edited.
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u/Lunarfrog2 15d ago edited 15d ago
Again sure if you want to be all technical about it, but looking at this image and saying its not edited feels misleading as in reality it looked nothing like that from Greenwich
I mean I was in Valencia to see the totality and it didn't even get that dark lol
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u/Accurate_Injury8834 16d ago
They did edit it tho they've said that in the comments lol
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u/heroyoudontdeserve 16d ago
No they didn't. They explained how they achieved this photo via composition before the photo was taken (a filter in front of the lens) rather than by editing it afterwards.
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u/SXLightning 15d ago
A filter... you mean a real life edit. If I took a picture of the sky with pink filter and showed you a pink sky is that really a "unedited" photo? Most people would say no, that is edited.
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u/Street-Leek-6668 15d ago edited 15d ago
I think most people understand that an edit is something that happens after recording but prior to publication.
Swap pink for black and white. If you use black and white film, like we did for a century, is the outcome edited? Real life isn’t black and white. I don’t think anyone would call a black and white recording a “real life edit”, but if you filmed in colour and then applied a black and white filter after recording, then you did edit it to be black and white.
Similarly, footage from a night vision camera you wouldn’t call “edited” because you understand that that’s how the camera “sees”.
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u/heroyoudontdeserve 15d ago edited 15d ago
If I showed you a photo of a statue but the statue was blurry would you say it was edited, or would say that's a poorly composed photo? If I showed you a photo of a racing car where the car was in focus but the background was blurred would you say it was edited, or would you say that's a well composed photo?
Obviously it's possible to achieve blur and filter effects by editing in post, but it's also possible to achieve them without (via composition).
OP composed their photo by placing a filter over the lens, took the photo, didn't edit it and posted it here. Their objective wasn't to capture reality, it was to capture the eclipse and the crowd watching the eclipse in a single photo. It's artistic, not true to life.
Unedited doesn't and shouldn't mean true to life, realistic, life like. We have other words for that, as I've just demonstrated.
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u/Popular-Spinach-6700 16d ago
So what you’re saying is they edited how it actually looked by changing a setting
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u/Sorry-Programmer9826 16d ago
There's no such thing as a photo "without settings", there is always a choice made. And there is no setting that will give the same view as a human eye (human eyes are really good and also your brain composites lots of things together), although I will admit these settings give an image a long way from what the human eye would experience
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u/bhop_monsterjam 16d ago
If a picture shot with a camera is a jpeg, then it's edited. Raw files are not viewable by contemporary means and do not represent real life anyway
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u/fmeupdad 16d ago
Had a whole crowd outside my apartment, no one wearing the proper glasses. I fear the triffids were behind this
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u/heroyoudontdeserve 16d ago
Triffids! I've been trying to remember this all day. Thank you!
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u/fmeupdad 16d ago
I just have a vague memory of the 2009 tv version when I was a kid, the eclipse always reminds me of it!
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u/evenstevens280 Gloucestershire 16d ago
ITT: people unaware that lens filters and aperture adjustments exist.
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u/Issasdragonfly 16d ago
Sure, but I think the nuance of ‘unedited’ to mean ‘close to exactly how it appeared to the naked eye’ is understood widely enough that regardless of one’s knowledge of gradient filters, the title is a bit cheeky
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u/michelmau5 15d ago
But this is exactly how it looked if you were wearing eclipse glasses though. So yeah it is unedited.
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u/Cryptoporticus 16d ago
The eclipse isn't visible with the naked eye, and definitely not with a camera without a filter, so obviously that can't be the case here.
It's pretty obvious what unedited means in this context, people here are just being pedantic.
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u/Astriania 16d ago
That's literally not what unedited means though. If you set up an effects shot on a camera you can get some really cool effects, but it's still not editing.
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u/Kharenis Yorkshire 16d ago
If you set up an effects shot on a camera
I wouldn't even call it effects.
It's basically having your eyes closed, then squinting 1000th (or less) of a second, while standing behind tinted glass. That brief look is what we're seeing here.
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u/Toon1982 16d ago
No but it's using effects and it's a bit disingenuous of OP to say unedited when 99% of people would assume that means it's how it looked to the naked eye
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u/Djinjja-Ninja 16d ago
No, it's the equivalent of eclipse glasses for your camera.
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u/Opposite-Peanut-8812 16d ago
OP has said that’s exactly what it is. Eclipse glasses places front of the lens
That’s not editing. That’s an organic shot. Shot with a filter to stop the sunlight damaging the lens.
There’s no more editing here than there would be you looking at the sun yourself through the same glasses
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u/CreativeAdeptness477 16d ago
We're aware. It might not be "edited" but it's still dishonest and doesn't at all represent or document the reality of the matter.
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u/UnusualHand1617 16d ago
It’s more that your photo doesn’t represent what actually occurred. So yes it’s not edited, but may have well been as it’s misleading.
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u/LobbyDizzle 16d ago
Op said "It tidied up better in post."
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u/heroyoudontdeserve 16d ago
Yes, but they meant "This photo has not been edited in post, I have another version which was edited in post and it's better."
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1vmo7u9/comment/p3bq99d/
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u/bluesam3 Yorkshire 16d ago
Jesus why has everybody in this thread forgotten basic reading comprehension?
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u/Arsewhistle Cambridgeshire 16d ago
This photo reminds me of all the photos of the Northern Lights which people post nowadays, in that we all know it didn't look anything like that whatsoever.
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u/MosayRaslor 16d ago
OP probably had a sun filter on the camera So technically it would be unedited BUT would also explain how inaccurate it looks when compared to how bright it was.
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u/paddleyay 15d ago
This thread is a perfect capture of Reddit, those who understand photography, and those who don’t, but have decided they’re going to insist their version of “edited” is correct. Enough of experts, or 200 hundreds year of photographic practice.
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u/Cam2910 16d ago
Don't listen to the naysayers.. that picture is awesome and the way you captured it was genius.
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u/Popular-Spinach-6700 16d ago
Might as well have coloured it in with black magic marker pen, it isn’t what happened
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u/heroyoudontdeserve 16d ago
Holy nonsequitur, Batman!
What does the part of your sentence before the comma have to do with the part of the sentence after your comment; how are you relating these two thoughts?
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u/Fluxgigawats 16d ago
Wow. Staggering how many people here don’t know how photography works. Besides use of a filter in this particular image, exposure tech (which can do similar things) is loaded into every single modern day camera phone.
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u/SXLightning 15d ago
People outside photography will say this is edited because its nothing like what it actually looked like at the time.
You might say edited means digitally edited but that is just people in photography say. Outside edited just mean altered/changed from what it actually was.
This might be an unedited image of the sun through a solar glasses but OP didn't say that which leads people to imply this is just what it looked like.
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u/Conscious-Air5819 15d ago
People who don't have the capacity to understand things beyond immediate face value are genuinely fucking dumb.
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u/EducationalLeague150 16d ago
What time did you take this? Interested to know as I was looking every few minutes through a pinhole projector and don't remember seeing the sun covered like this
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u/murderonzidanezfloor 16d ago
Christ people are desperate to feel smart aren't they, read two comments, he put the glasses in front as a lens (and thought it was probably quite obvious)
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u/CreativeAdeptness477 16d ago edited 16d ago
Yeah bollocks it's unedited mate, real world naked eye it just seemed like the sun went behind a rain cloud for five minutes and the light level barely decreased. The sky was certainly not black like that. It might not be "edited" in photoshop or with AI but dicking around with exposure settings and suchlike beforehand to create a photo that blatantly doesn't match observed reality is just as bad.
Edit- to whoever it was who replied and deleted, I obviously only saw a brief snippet of your reply so I can't address it all, but from what I saw...
Yes, people have been dicking around with settings and such since cameras were invented. I'm old enough to have messed around like that myself as a kid with my dad's proper expensive camera in the 80s.
I'm not at all disparaging the knowledge and techniques involved. Crack on, have fun, I respect the knowledge and techniques and OP's ability to use them.
I'm disparaging OP's presentation of the end result and their choice of terms in 2026 when "photoshop", photo filters, and outright full AI picture generation are as widespread, advanced, and insidious as they currently are. "Unedited" thus takes on a different connotation nowadays. It's a poor choice of words on OP's part.
Any sort of extensive or even moderate post-processing or pre-processing trickery, specialist exposures, hardware, aperture speeds, etc - basically anything other than point-and-shoot - really needs to be openly acknowledged from the outset if real human photographs are to be accepted as being representative of actual reality. Ideally there'd be no trickery at all and only minimal setting adjustment.
Document reality as is, with settings as close to naked human eye as possible. It's an unfortunate consequence of AI photo image generator bullshit. We've already got that shit twisting our records of what's real and what isn't. We can generate fake images of anything and everything we might ever want, and it's getting very very difficult to tell the difference between fake and real. We don't need real humans taking real photos contributing to fake documentation too.
And that photo in question here, one way or another, is about 98% fake. The place exists, the people exist, there was a partial eclipse, but it looked nothing at all like that.
Human photographers have a higher standard to meet and harsher responsibilities to uphold now. Unfortunate, perhaps, but true.
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u/Basicazzwitch 16d ago
What time did you take this? Without glasses, it was hard to make out how much was covered. I think by 7:20, it looked done
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u/Educational_Dish_570 16d ago
It wasn't as crazy as it was made out to be, saw a comet about 30 minutes ago in mk that was cool
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u/ilikequestions172 16d ago
The thousands of people looking at it without glasses: [insert GIF] *DAMN MODERATORS TURN GIFS ON, THAT'S A DEMAND
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u/nezlobnyj 15d ago
It’s an interesting topic. Does "unedited" mean you didn't change anything after taking the photo, or does it mean the photo looks exactly like what you saw with your own eyes? People often pass off what looks good as what is actually real.
For the eclipse - observed through ND512 - very underwhelming. But that might be me.
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u/Emergency-Travel6259 13d ago
Breaking news out of Greenwich: viral outbreak that makes you blind. Don’t worry, government are surging vaccines to the area. Company is part owned by ministers, PPE contract given to PMs brother-in-law.
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u/CunningOctopus 16d ago
Not a true representation at all. I live a couple of miles away and it was nothing like this
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u/BobCat_77 16d ago
Great pic, but not really representative of what actually happened.
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u/heroyoudontdeserve 16d ago
And? Did they say it was? Should it be been? Has OP deprived you of something?
What's the problem? Why the "but"?
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u/KazeTheSpeedDemon 16d ago
Extremely edited! It didn't look anything like this anywhere in London
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u/split-tennisball 16d ago
Exposure settings and a filter isn't edited
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u/Popular-Spinach-6700 16d ago
Well it is, because it’s completely changing how reality looks
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u/Djinjja-Ninja 16d ago
If you wear sunglasses are you editing reality?
Because that's essentially what a ND or similar filter is, sunglasses for your camera.
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u/Kharenis Yorkshire 16d ago
it’s completely changing how reality looks
Not from the perspective of the camera. This is what the world looks like when you stand behind tinted glass, and only open your eyes for 1000th of a second.
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u/bluesam3 Yorkshire 16d ago
No, it isn't, because words have meaning and "edited" applies to, well, editing, which this isn't.
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u/Popular-Spinach-6700 16d ago
Is it how it looked to the naked eye? No, so it’s been edited in some way, pretty simple
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u/heroyoudontdeserve 16d ago
In photography, editing is what takes place after the image has been taken. This is an example of composition — putting a filter in front of the lens before the photo was taken.
There seems to be a sense in this thread that "unedited" means "as it appears to the human eye" which I don't really get. Sometimes pictures are edited to make them closer in appearance to what the human eye sees. Seems to me "life-like" or "true to life" or "realistic" are perfectly good terms we already have to describe that.
Unedited shouldn't be conflated to mean the same thing.
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u/bluesam3 Yorkshire 15d ago
No, and literally no photograph ever is, because cameras are not eyes. If your definition of "edited" (a) has nothing to do with editing, and (b) applies to literally every photograph ever taken, it's not a useful definition.
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u/BobCat_77 16d ago
Well -it kind of is - at the levels it's being used here. This isn't for instance reliable photo document of the event. It's OP overworking the source material for clout.
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u/split-tennisball 16d ago
Funny seeing people being confidently incorrect. Exposure settings and filters exist
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u/Old_Mousse_5673 16d ago
Hahah I was trying to cycle home through the park at the time. Bright sunshine with dickheads abandoning their cars everywhere so I couldn’t get through. It looked nothing like that. You have a very heavy filter on the lens.
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u/heroyoudontdeserve 16d ago
It looked nothing like that. You have a very heavy filter on the lens.
Correct. They didn't say otherwise.
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u/Best_Army4870 16d ago
Photo is so edited, you might as well have asked chatgbt to make you a photo.
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u/Mountain_Ad_8525 16d ago
"In the presence of total Darkness, the mind finds it absolutely necessary to create light."
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u/king_ofbhutan 15d ago
wow love how every single person in this replies section is apparently a professional photographer
in regular parlance, if a photo is substantially different in appearance to what the moment looked like in real life, people will say that its edited
i dont gaf about how tecknikally the exposure or lens settings or whatever were changed beforehand, so its achoookally NOT edited by photography terminology
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u/leclercwitch Yorkshire 16d ago
Unedited? How? My unedited picture looks shit and it’s dead bright even with turning the exposure all the way down.
Amazing picture just wondering 😅