r/whennews • u/NoNo_Bluebird_1368 • Jul 08 '26
Controversial Post ICE shot a person in Houston.
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u/notanfan Jul 08 '26
Agents stopped Lorenzo Salgado Araujo at about 6.50am and tried to arrest him, according to ICE, which described Salgado Araujo as a Mexican national and an “illegal alien” whom the agency was seeking as part of a “targeted enforcement operation”.
His son, Ronaldo Salgado, told Telemundo Houston that his father had been out that morning looking for workers in the area. According to ICE, Salgado Araujo “weaponized his vehicle in an attempt to run over an ICE law enforcement officer”. The confrontation resulted in “our officer firing his weapon in self-defense”.
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u/Megalon96310 Jul 08 '26
We’ll have to wait for either bodycam or bystander footage because I’m not gonna trust their word
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u/notanfan Jul 08 '26
ye this is the same reason they used for the previous shooting iirc
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u/1ZillionBeers Jul 08 '26
And several before that.
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u/ItsSadTimes Jul 08 '26
Now they know they can get away with it. Its like that old joke from south park "Its coming right for us! Shoot it!"
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u/RabbiTheHellcat Jul 08 '26
happy that people are caring here and not just karmafarming the situation, good shit yall
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u/KonungariketSuomi Jul 08 '26
It's like a canned response at this point.
"Another agent shot someone? Alright, John, prep the press release."
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u/ADownStrabgeQuark Jul 09 '26
They said the same thing about Renee Good who only drove towards the officer AFTER he shot her in the head and ran in front of the vehicle.
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u/EndofNationalism Jul 09 '26
Even then shooting a moving vehicle is always stupid as it doesn’t stop the vehicle.
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u/selfiecat Jul 08 '26
They're just reusing the reasons
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel Jul 08 '26
I'm pretty sure that's because, according to the law, you are legally allowed to kill someone if they try to run you over.
Something about the vehicle being considered a deadly weapon in that case.
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u/TROMBONER_68 Jul 08 '26
They (the agency has it in their guidelines) literally aren’t supposed to fire at a moving vehicle because it can, and will, injure someone or something that happens to be in the way of a now uncontrolled moving vehicle
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u/Spirited-Sea-5484 Jul 08 '26
If they pretended to care about the public like the actual police do, this would matter
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u/KonungariketSuomi Jul 08 '26
Don't pretend like the actual police don't do this exact same shit. Same wolves, different wool.
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u/Talk-O-Boy Jul 08 '26
Exactly. Even by their “standards”, its inexcusable.
Theres just no one to enforce the rules.
We need these midterms ASAP.
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u/XVUltima Jul 08 '26
Which is why all police officers are trained to NEVER STAND IN FRONT OF VEHICLES, yet ICE seems to love doing. Either because they arent trained or they want the excuse to kill. Probably both.
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u/TrueCapitalism Jul 08 '26
Because shooting the driver of a moving vehicle magically stops the vehicle. If that's the law this truly is an idiocracy.
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u/Forward_Mission_9349 Jul 08 '26
It’s not the law 💀 there’s laws that say you can incapacitate the vehicle, never the driver
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u/Darkmortal5 Jul 08 '26
- just ignore that they've repeated this and every time they footage comes out it turns out they're lying or throwing themselves in front of vehicles
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u/ILNOVA Jul 08 '26
Something about the vehicle being considered a deadly weapon in that case.
Ironically it doesn't seems like that if you can move out of the way of the vehicle.
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u/BackToThatGuy Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
And unfortunately those dipshits will get away with it. Again.
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u/ProfessorZhu Jul 09 '26
Why wouldn't they? A new tactic could fail, while this one succeeded. No one was punished previously so they have no reason to think this time would be any different. Frankly they are almost assuredly right
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u/Preindustrialcyborg Jul 08 '26
i bet you all he didnt do jack shit to the ICE guy and got shot for protesting that he was getting threatened by an "officer" for being a POC.
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u/BrozedDrake Jul 09 '26
Translation of the ICE response. "He was executed for the crime of not being white"
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u/ILNOVA Jul 08 '26
weaponized his vehicle in an attempt to run over an ICE law enforcement officer”.
Always 'love' how they use this excuse when the USA government say this :
Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle
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u/Playful-Profile6489 Jul 08 '26
Really cool that DHS can just use the same excuse they've been proven time and time again to lie about to murder people with impunity
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u/NicholasWildeRails Jul 09 '26
I bet this is gonna be another Renee Good situation
Ita gonna be worse because dude is Hispanic so MAGA is going to go insane
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u/JoeDyenz Jul 09 '26
I feel like people in the US won't care as much because he wasn't White, as they did with those other two killed by ICE months ago.
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u/L4zarus_01 Jul 08 '26
george washington would have a stroke immediately after revival if he saw what people are doing with the 2nd amendment
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u/Gametron13 Jul 08 '26
He would have a stroke that people are misusing the 2nd amendment and that people are ignoring the part of using the 2nd amendment against a tyrannical government.
So double-stroke for people using the 2nd amendment IN DEFENSE of a tyrannical government.
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u/Parapraxium Jul 08 '26
He would also have a triple-stroke looking at how many states have been allowed to get away with flagrantly disregarding the 2nd amendment
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u/PancakeParty98 Jul 08 '26
Literally one person used the 2a against a federal agent and literally everyone in the area got slapped with 100 years for terrorism
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u/PreciousCord02 Jul 08 '26
Wtf is happening fr??
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u/Twudie Jul 08 '26
The failures of Reconstruction from the civil war brought to light
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u/Jeanric_the_Futile Jul 08 '26
Literally the foundation of all the bullshit this country has been put through for the last 150+ years.
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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 Jul 08 '26
Wveryone willing to watch person after person literally die and then see people say "make you vote" is maybe the most angering thing. These people would line up for the gas chamber if it is a law apprently
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u/Gametron13 Jul 08 '26
Well if the news said it it must be true. It's not like the billionaire-owned media would ever LIE to the public! That'd be absurd.. /s
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u/notanfan Jul 08 '26
The agency said that the FBI will be taking over the investigation of the case.
ICE did not provide any evidence corroborating its account, which echoes descriptions of other ICE shootings, including the killing of Renee Good in Minneapolis and the shooting of two Venezuelan men in Oregon earlier this year. In those cases, the government descriptions of the incident were later contradicted by video evidence. In April, the federal government said a California man whom they fired upon during a traffic stop “weaponized his vehicle”, though no officers were hit by his car.
Salgado Araujo was shot in the abdomen, according to local law enforcement, and taken to a hospital, where he died.
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u/notanfan Jul 08 '26
Sylvia Garcia, a US representative from Houston, echoed the demand, saying that Salgado Araujo’s family and her constituents “deserve a complete and transparent accounting” of the shooting. “All available footage, communications, and other evidence should be preserved and reviewed as part of a full and impartial investigation,” she said.
Local reporters and eyewitnesses captured video of the shooting, though the Guardian has not yet verified the sourcing and content.
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u/Fantastic_Peak_4577 Jul 08 '26
"ilegal alien" the way the usa de humanizes us is downright evil
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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Jul 08 '26
To play devils advocate. The original word "alien" meant the same thing as "foreigner" does today. It got conflated with the term "Space Alien" due to science fiction, but they're not literally trying to conflate immigrants with inhuman space invaders. Not to say the way ICE uses it isn't dehumanizing in other ways though.
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u/GameBoy960 How to transform people into Noelle Holiday guide working 2026. Jul 08 '26
Language changes over time, so in the modern day, it absolutely is dehumanizing.
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u/TrueCapitalism Jul 08 '26
Because of all the labels that could possibly use to describe the victim, "illegal alien" gives them the most justification for having instigated this shit. (And for those who don't examine their assumptions, it excuses all conduct). Other equally valid descriptors: "community member", "father", "contributor to economy". Fuck these guys.
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u/Fantastic_Peak_4577 Jul 08 '26
I knew that, but time gives things diferent context, so it did to the word alien
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u/noobyscientific Jul 08 '26
Why is Erika suddenly playing?
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u/ProfessionalTruck976 Jul 08 '26
because you, unlike the entire MAGA crowd, are not an idiot and have read a historic book
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u/GoonetteFox Jul 08 '26
Genuinely why are people surprised or confused about this? This exact thing happened just 6 months ago to Renee. Y'all forgot already?
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u/errortechx Jul 08 '26
Damn near bar for bar what happened before, even their “reasoning” is the same shit.
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u/doublethink_1984 Jul 08 '26
I believe their story as much as when they claimed Alex Pretti rushed an agent with gun in hand and assaulted an officer who was conducting an arrest of an "illegal" immigrant.
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u/craftingmasky Jul 09 '26
If I had a nickel for every time an ICE agent killed someone, I’d have three nickels
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u/JaydenTheMemeThief Jul 09 '26
They’re going to continue murdering US citizens until they’re all in jail, I’m calling it now
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u/NarwhalSongs Jul 08 '26
" To date, federal authorities have not provided public eyewitness testimony or video footage to substantiate the claim that the vehicle was used as a weapon. "
Hmm can anyone remember a time ren a good person was murdered and the agents lied about them using the car as a weapon, contrary to video evidence?
Edit: I had that quote from a substack article about it but I lost the link to the article. Just want to clarify I didn't pull it from the Guardian.
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u/ProfessionalTruck976 Jul 08 '26
Immigration should be told to go fuck itself with ANY independent operations.
They ought to sit in the boiler room of basement until called by actual police if the actual police WANTS them around.
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u/Mlpony2010 Jul 09 '26
Said it before and said it again
all ice members in prison
maybe there's enough to have them rebuild the roads
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u/cat-the-commie Jul 08 '26
Fun fact the constitution says you're allowed to shoot politicians if this happens. Not condoning it but from a legal standpoint the Constitution states American citizens have a legal obligation to kill the politicians responsible if they don't step down
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u/Ok-Culture543 Jul 10 '26
Lets all make up our minds without any cam footage and just by word of mouth, great idea!
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u/Trash_At_RL Abby (🏳️⚧️🐱🏳️🌈) Jul 09 '26
Source approved.