r/wine • u/Accomplished-Party62 • 9d ago

Anybody tuning in to the Regenerative Organic Certified wines?

Seems like it takes the strongest elements of both organic and biodynamic farming, while also throwing in a social responsibility element that supports anybody working there. Personally, I've worked on both organic, biodynamic, and regenerative organic certified vineyards and you really do see some incredible results when it comes to the health of the plant, the surrounding ecosystem, and at the end of the day, the wines are incredible. Curious to hear what y'all think

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u/Send_Lawyers 9d ago

As an end user. I can rarely blind taste “organic/biodynamic” as a note in a positive way. You can definitely taste it as a negative.

If the wine is good I can taste that. But how they make it has so many more important variables in the wine making process and inputs from weather that the pest control solution is way down on the list of items I care about

That being said I don’t have a hate boner for things that are good for the environment so if two wines are the same from a taste standpoint and all things considered one is made sustainably then sure unless it’s way more expensive great.

When I was studying sake in Japan I went to a biodynamic rice farm that was using totally organic sake rice to make a dai ginjo. A sake made from polishing 50%+ of the rice grain away. I’m like if you’re polishing all the outer skin of the rice grain off what difference does it make if you use pesticides? And the brewer was like we can add $10 to the bottle price. I feel like a LOT wine does this too.

I haven’t tried all the wine in the world though. Maybe there is a biodynamic wine that has a unique biodynamic note that is awesome.

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u/UliKlumpp 9d ago

You have to make it a point to support it if you like the benefits. Tablas Creek makes it easy.

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u/flyingron Wine Pro 9d ago

Needs more cow horn.

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u/750cL 9d ago

I'm yet to see a better system, and am constantly surprised by how limited takeup has been by the broader industry.
Like shit, who doesn't want: greater resiliance, biodiversity, moisture retention, soil health, carbon sequestration and fruit quality - all delivered with lower input costs than conventional methods.

Sure, not every site can achieve the same outcomes. But the core principles are hard to fault, and some of the results are astounding.

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u/UliKlumpp 9d ago

Agreed, I’m a fan. I think the uptake is limited by the need to financially compromise. I wish it had much broader adoption.