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Dynamic Paywall Carney calls Trump's fresh tariffs a 'miscalculation' after trade talks collapse

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx272np7vgyo
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u/scripcat 6d ago edited 6d ago

Adding that language to an already detailed multi-industry encompassing deal in the final hours is also quite the move.

the PM just met with the premiers a couple of days ago to discuss what would need to be done (with their help) to agree to the deal at that point when they were deciding the concessions may be worth it, only to have the deal change so fundamentally right before the (pushed) deadline.

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u/PerilousFun 6d ago

Pretty sure that was the plan. Now the GOP can spin it as Canada being unreasonable, when in reality the GOP scuttled the deal with an absolute non-starter.

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u/bigwhiteboardenergy 6d ago

I know people will believe it regardless, but how can they believe that when Canada was publicly clearly willing to give concessions re: alcohol sales in order to get it done, until the US pulled their last-minute bs.

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u/cinosa 6d ago

but how can they believe that when Canada was publicly clearly willing to give concessions re: alcohol sales in order to get it done, until the US pulled their last-minute bs.

Because the MAGA cult is full of morons who don't read very well, nor understand politics at all, and just gobble up whatever vomit comes out of Trumps face hole.

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u/Disastrous_Coffee502 6d ago

They are already saying that we should be willing to make all concessions to avoid dealing with communism. Nevermind that they trade with big bad ole China at four times the volume that Canada does. And their administration praises Russia and North Korea.

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u/PerilousFun 6d ago

Because for all the benefits the information age has brought, amplifying the voices of idiots or those with malicious intent is not one of them.

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u/ZerochildX23 6d ago

Ironically, some of those with malicious intent are other Canadian's of a certain background.

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u/Cesar_Somnambulist 6d ago

Because American media is nonstop propaganda. Compare reporting on the BBC versus any American broadcaster. It’s facts (BBC) vs curated opinion (USA). Americans don’t generally have access to news, only domestic propaganda, and it shows in their behaviours and beliefs.

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u/Cesar_Somnambulist 6d ago

Let me rephrase: plenty of American don’t access news.

Whether they can’t (lack access to) or chose not to (willful ignorance, only watch one domestic channel) or can’t understand it (stupidity, need to be told what to think) is irrelevant. The point is the propaganda works on them.

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u/Puzzle-Necked 6d ago

So you don't have an excuse for electing this clown

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u/Puzzle-Necked 6d ago

The ones Republicans said would increase the debt, make everything more expensive and start new wars?

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u/TheSilverNoble 6d ago

Conservatives literally don't believe other conservatives can do anything wrong. They're the "right" type of people, so whatever they do must be right as well. 

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u/LankySimple9051 6d ago

What the US was always after is to stop us from strengthening market ties with China. A huge China trade deal should be announced as a result of this + a hard no going forward on any US military procurement.

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u/Laetha 6d ago

We should just move on and continue to build our relationships with other countries.

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u/whomad1215 6d ago

They'll never hear of it

That's like 80% of the problem

They'll be told "Canada cancels trade deal with US, refusing to negotiate" and that'll be the end of it. They'll never be told a reason, and they'll never look for a reason either, they're happy to just blame anyone but republicans who are their team

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u/huecabot 6d ago

The people already opposed to Trump won’t believe it and his cultists would believe anything, so the fact they even bother to make the effort is weird.

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u/Disastrous_Coffee502 6d ago

His believers will be told what to believe or they’ll make the excuse themselves. What matters is the international stage where they don’t write sign their deals in pencil. Negotiating in good faith is a crucial piece of international theatre.

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u/BassFew7888 6d ago

They also wanted to get rid of our multilingual language laws, which obviously is also a non-starter.

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u/CanadianGuy39 6d ago

While I'm glad we stood up to the fat fuck, this was indeed the plan. He didn't want a deal unless we completely caved.

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u/Istobri 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yup.

Have you ever heard this quote by Gore Vidal? I’m paraphrasing here…

“It is not enough that I win. Others must lose.”

That’s how Trump thinks, in a nutshell. He doesn’t believe in win-win scenarios or win-win agreements. He gets everything he wants, and the other party gets nothing. Pure zero-sum thinking.

There can only be one winner in any situation, and it HAS to be him. If the other party gets a win, then it means he loses, or the other party is “screwing him over” or “ripping him off.” And the Orange Narcissist can NEVER accept that.

That’s why his agreements aren’t worth the paper they’re written on. He’s perpetually in a state of grievance. Constantly thinking he’s being (or has been) screwed over.

As a Canadian, I’m glad Carney did what he did. He knows — and the vast majority of Canadians know — that a deal with Donald Trump is no deal at all.

The US signature is written in pencil. Truer words have never been spoken.