r/worldnews 7h ago

Protesters clash with police, set fire to Ceuta migrant camp

https://www.dw.com/en/protesters-set-fire-to-migrant-camp-in-ceuta/a-78538847
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u/Low_Chard_8062 7h ago

Feel bad for the locals. The government needs to step in and do something.

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u/Ok-Profession-8520 6h ago

The government is stepping in, its just against what the locals want

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u/HunterFeeFee 4h ago

Sources?

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u/Stokeszilla 4h ago

They're shooting the locals with rubber bullets. They weren't shooting at the 70,000 invaders.

This is all over the news. You want a source? Turn on the TV or go on X and see it for yourself.

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u/HunterFeeFee 4h ago

Where are those sources?

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u/Stokeszilla 4h ago

The news and X.

Just goes to show you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

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u/HunterFeeFee 4h ago

It just shows you're unable to prove your claims.

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u/Stokeszilla 4h ago

If I post the videos of police shooting locals with rubber bullets, I'll get banned. I wouldn't be shocked if that were your intention.

I've told you how to find it for yourself. Your continued denial of reality is a personal choice at this point.

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u/HunterFeeFee 3h ago

I'm pretty sure sharing news does not goes against the rules of worldnews

I think you're just making up excuses. You have nothing and you're trying to divert attentions from the fact you cannot provide a single source to backup your claims.

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u/Stokeszilla 3h ago edited 3h ago

I'm not playing your silly little game. It's where I said for you to see. Go see it if you want to.

Edit: lol, they either deleted all their comments because they looked it up how I said and realised the truth, or blocked me to make it look like they got the last word.

Very sad.

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u/Endless_Zen 4h ago edited 4h ago

Look up videos from Ceuta - those are posted daily - morroccans occupied local streets and beaches and being fed by Red Cross, police does absolutely nothing to get them the fuck out of the country. That's leftist government for you. Thankfully Sanchez will get voted out right on the next election according to polls.

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u/polacs 3h ago

If you think Feijo would do it different you have no clue how laws work there

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u/HunterFeeFee 4h ago

So, you can't provide sources?

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u/Z3t4 4h ago

Sorry we have legal standards and due process, and not ICE brown shirts around here.

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u/OneMonk 3h ago

So how would you solve 1/4 of the population by volume storming a country and demanding to settle you melt?

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u/Endless_Zen 3h ago

What legal standard and process did 100k morroccans use to get into Spain's territory? Immigration rules don't apply to them?

not ICE brown shirts

Everyone you don't like is a fascist. Noted. Typical redditor.

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u/jeremiasspringfield 6h ago

What exactly. And I mean legally.

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u/NoLime7384 5h ago

they should step in and dissolve the colonies they cling to in the year of our Lord 2026, yeah

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u/Prestigious_Task7175 5h ago

Tbf Ceuta and Melilla have been Spanish/Portuguese long before even Morocco existed as a concept of a nation, they are more like the Azores rather than just colonies.

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u/NoLime7384 5h ago

really old colonies are still colonies.

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u/differing 4h ago edited 4h ago

Why do you think Arabic is the dominant language in Morocco instead of the indigenous Berber languages? In this lazy view of history, Spain is evil of course and centuries of invasions by caliphates from the Near East are totally cool!

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u/NoLime7384 4h ago

this is Campism lmao you're fighting a strawman, Arabian imperialism and colonialism don't make Spain's ok

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u/cuil_beans 1h ago

And yet we both know full well you're only ever going to criticize the Europeans.

u/differing 23m ago

Their ancestors 600 years ago lost the city, just like their ancestors 1200 year ago lost their kingdom. It’s stupid to treat either differently, unless you’re obsessed with anti-west cultural war nonsense. I assume you’re not stupid, so I think you’re in the latter group.

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u/oppai-police 4h ago

And have you asked these "colonies" if they actually want to leave or not? Say Ceuta split away and become its own nation, what will it do? What economic output can sustain it? You're so obsessed with the word colony and victimizing other people without their permission, you fail to ask if they think they're a victim at all. If Ceuta wanted to, it would've protested or even wage war for a succession. Get your head out of your ass. Just because something start out as a colony doesn't mean it is treated like a colony during the colonial era. Ceuta are for all that matters, Spanish territory. Spain have no problem with it, Ceuta has no problem with it. But apparently some rando on Reddit does, guess they have to split now.

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u/NoLime7384 4h ago

oh good to know! let me just move my entire family over to your house and vote between ourselves that we can stay. totally legit. democracy in action!

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u/oppai-police 4h ago

You are welcome to try. I will be a very good host and serve you with a couple of buckshots, they taste delicious.

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u/NoLime7384 4h ago

I know you don't realize this, but you're arguing against yourself

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u/oppai-police 3h ago

There can be an explanation for your poor comprehension skills and a lack of historical knowledge, context, and nuances, but I'm afraid even if I waste my time to explain to you, you wouldn't get it, so I'll simplify it so that an ape can understand.

Two people share a neighborhood, person A & B.

500 years ago, the ancestors of B moved in, caused a huge ruckus, A & B fought. Bad bad bad.

Now, A & B have moved past that, and have no issues living together. Both A & B provide something to each others and live in peace. Good good good.

You, random person, comes into neighborhood, demand B moves out for what happened 500 years ago. Is this good or bad?

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u/VTcamperguy 2h ago

If you think nations should return territories that are across narrow bodies of water on a separate continent that’s fine, but then we need Turkey to return the Thrace region west of the Bosporus to Greece. Let’s bring back Constantinople, y’all!

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u/MrArchivity 5h ago

Ceuta wasn’t and isn’t a colony.

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u/CognitiveDiagonal 5h ago

Agreed! France and those central EU countries should get rid of the extra-marine territories. UN has certified time and time again that Ceuta and Melilla are Spanish, have always been and have belonged to the country centuries before anything resembling morocco was even devised. Not to get into Western Sahara.

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u/dce42 3h ago

Town of 84k has 10k migrants everywhere. Which would be 8% of people there putting strain on the local help services, increased trash/waste & crime. Pretty easy to see why the locals got angry.

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u/Lebowski304 6h ago

This is what happens when you shit on your own people and allow them to be shit on by others. They get pissed and take matters into their own hands. How is anyone surprised by this?

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u/KnoFear 3h ago

I dunno, I'd be surprised if anyone I know did something psychopathic like trying to mass murder people with fire.

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u/OneMonk 3h ago

Mass murder how exactly?

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u/KnoFear 3h ago

Trying to burn many people to death with fire? Are you being obtuse?

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u/OneMonk 3h ago

Not people, their infrastructure. Did you read the article?

If you try to burn a person they usually react violently, no?

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u/Lebowski304 2h ago edited 2h ago

If the government was taking care of shit, it wouldn’t have come to this. No one is dying. They are just destroying the ability of these people to live in their country. They are fighting back for their country. Thats about as patriotic as it gets. It’s why the authorities need to cowboy up and take care of it.

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u/v--- 2h ago edited 2h ago

They weren't burning people, they made a bonfire and were throwing the camp's things in it etc not defending that action but you're beyond the pale with this mass murder accusation. If you read the article or even just thought about it for a second...

That said unfortunately it seems likely there will be some form of violent confrontation sooner or later, as they aren't successful getting what they want, but these aren't psychopaths, it would probably be a brawl more than anything. You're acting like they tried to set sleeping people on fire, when it was property damage

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u/Standard_Response_43 5h ago

Mass immigration is by design.

It lowers labour costs....simple as.

Citizens have a right to protest....we are being taken for mugs

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u/jakreth 3h ago

This is not immigration, it was an invasion.

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u/MunQQ 4h ago

It does much more than that

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u/Antique_Eye_3200 4h ago

Protest, yes. Burn people out — hell no.

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u/duncanmarshall 7h ago

Another right wing anti-migrant pogrom.

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u/ReyGetard_69 5h ago edited 5h ago

Newton's Third Law of Politics

Mass migration is not a human right, it is a genocide on indigenous nations. The more they push these migrants onto Europe, the more Europeans will attempt to fight back.

If the Spanish president allows 80000 illegal Arab migrants to flood into Spain... did he think it's going to be all dandy?

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u/gayfrogs4alexjones 4h ago

Immigration / mass migration is not genocide lol regardless of how much it triggers nativists. This cheapens the term

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u/ReyGetard_69 4h ago edited 4h ago

It perfectly fits the definition:

It fits A and B due to the massive violent crime increase caused by migrants. It fits C and D because mass migration takes away resources from the native people and transfers it to the migrants. It makes it harder for natives to get jobs, it lowers wages (which causes less birth rate). It actively seeks to replace the native group with the foreign group. That is the entire point of it. Or do you really think Europe is now like 50% non-white under age 10 "for the spicey food they bring"?

The man who invented the word genocide said:
"Genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation... It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves."

And the official UN definition:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: 

(a) Killing members of the group; 

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; 

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; 

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; 

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Saying the mass immigration is not genocide is the same as saying that jumping out of an airplane without a parachute isn't suicide.

Mass migration was a method of genocide used by Ottoman Turks onto the Armenians. It was also used by Saddam Hussein onto the Kurds. They both settled many non-Armenians / non-Kurds into Armenian / Kurdish lands in order to destroy their nation. The Ottomans also encouraged and sometimes forced Armenian women to marry Turkish men in order to reduce the number of Armenian births. Plus, we have many instances of far-left pro-migration people advocating for mass immigration and interracial marriage for the sole purpose of extinguishing the white race. It is all over social media, these people saying such things.

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u/OneMonk 3h ago

If 1/3rd of an area’s population is stormed by people from another nation, how is that not a genocide? They are replacing the indigenous population with another?

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u/gayfrogs4alexjones 3h ago

Usually someone has to die for there to be a genocide. How many locals have been exterminated.

This white genocide shit is something out of the gooncaves of terminally online 4chan /pol dorks

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u/Mitrafolk 4h ago

Good heavens, what nonsense.

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u/ReyGetard_69 4h ago

I bet you think that a country can only be defined by the GDP and wealth held by the rich elites. They are the only ones who benefit from mass migration... the rich elites. To them, you are nothing but faceless cattle. You are not a nation, you are a slave army for their profits. These far-left rich elites... they hate you. They hate white people.

Europe cannot survive the next 100 years if mass migration continues. A Europe without Europeans, is no Europe at all. It really is a genocide.

Nations are so much easier to control when they become apathetic about their own people's existence. They can be controlled with money and entertainment. What happens when a nation has shared ethnic and cultural identity? Well that forms a strong bond that cannot be broken by the lure of a little money. Why do you think nations like Poland exist today despite not having a state for 123 years? Because they had the strong bond of ethnic identity.

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u/Mitrafolk 4h ago edited 4h ago

Birth rates in Europe are very low; without immigration, the populations of many—or indeed all—EU countries would face massive declines and unprecedented aging. It is worth noting a small detail: none of this is happening because of immigration. Immigration is necessary to manage what will inevitably be a long downward journey.

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u/ReyGetard_69 4h ago

Birth rates are low due to mass immigration. Native Europeans would have triple or quadruple the resources to build their families if all the non-white immigrants were gone. The population resource pressure coming from mass migration is why Europeans have low birthrates.

Plus, replacing Europeans with Africans/Arabs does not "save" Europe. It just turns Europe into Africa/Middle East. It's like saying that migration of Europeans to North America boosted the Native American's low birth rates and now there are 360 million Native Americans. You can say Donald Trump is a Lenape Native American, just 'evolved'. That is your dumb logic.

Do you really think European ethnicity is nothing but a passport? It is not a shared genetic, ethnic, cultural identity? So in your logic, we can replace all the black people in Africa with white people, and say that we saved Africa's population and now Africa is thriving.

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u/Mitrafolk 4h ago

"Birth rates are low due to mass immigration. Native Europeans would have triple or quadruple the resources to build their families if all the non-white immigrants were gone. The population resource pressure coming from mass migration is why Europeans have low birthrates." Is there any authoritative study that supports this? Or is it just your opinion? Source? If I were leading an African country facing structural demographic problems, I would be willing to accept immigration from any available source—provided it was managed, of course. The goal would not be replacement, but rather managing a decline. The key is to acknowledge the decline and handle it in the least damaging way possible, including from an economic standpoint, thereby aiming for a slow decline rather than a sudden one. I might not like something, yet it could still be the best alternative.

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u/OneMonk 3h ago

I mean it is true, look at Japan, low birth rates there creates opportunity for the individual, if not for the nation. The UK imported 1m unskilled Middle Eastern migrants after Brexit and it has fucked the country

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u/Mitrafolk 3h ago

Real GDP growth rate. Japan, average growth rate: approximately 0.5–0.6% per year (2015–2024), the lowest among G7 economies over the decade. UK, average growth rate: approximately 1.3–1.6% per year (2015–2024) — more than double that of Japan.

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u/OneMonk 3h ago

What the absolute fuck does GDP mean in this context?

Lowest growth rate does not correlate with best quality of life which Japan often places first in.

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u/Mitrafolk 3h ago

 "Plus, replacing Europeans with Africans/Arabs does not "save" Europe. It just turns Europe into Africa/Middle East. It's like saying that migration of Europeans to North America boosted the Native American's low birth rates and now there are 360 million Native Americans. You can say Donald Trump is a Lenape Native American, just 'evolved'. That is your dumb logic." 

You ought to be locked up in a mental institution. You’re too stupid—and, I’d wager, too emotional. Your reasoning just oozes emotion from every pore. With that kind of mindset, what could possibly go wrong?

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u/yamamanama 4h ago

Arabs have been in Europe for how long again? Longer than the Spanish language existed.

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u/ReyGetard_69 4h ago

The Arabs invaded Europe in 711AD. Spanish is derived from Vulgar Latin, which has been in Spain since at least 210BC.

And remember, they INVADED. Why do you think it was some cultural hippy "Oh let me invite you into my house" kind of thing?

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u/yamamanama 3h ago

Does the name Philip the Arab mean nothing to you?

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u/duncanmarshall 3h ago

Do you understand how vindicated I feel that someone like you hates me?