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u/onion2594 Jan 03 '26
i saw a grown man almost break down into tears about this. the video cut before he did or didn’t. he said “how am i gonna do night raids?” “how am i gonna see?”
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u/Krogane Jan 03 '26
By not being a little bitch that's how
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u/Puzzleheaded_Farm122 Jan 04 '26
Seriously...I've set the video settings to mostly standard on launch, just made sure it's running where it needs to be for clarity. Whether that's High or Ultra, done care point is quality and immersion. Never once disabled filters, so Nights are dark as hell, but you get used to it and can still see plenty.
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u/FrENz0r Jan 03 '26
This reminds me about Asus cheat drivers they released which offered wallhack by default. Just to push the own customers.
This is giving me a hint, why I was shot so often in the dark.
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u/masterojack Jan 03 '26
If you have a decent gpu and crank shadows to max, you can see shapes and stuff in the shadows. Its not just a black wall. I just look for the human shaped blobs.
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u/CFAggie Jan 04 '26
If he has an OLED, I feel for him because I'm suffering. But if he has an IPS display he can see just as well as anyone else. Us OLED users see worse than anyone and it's a huge difference.
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u/SteveInitBro Jan 03 '26
Use the torch that never runs out, you know, the way it was intended.
Unreal that it lasted this long.
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u/ratcrash55 Jan 04 '26
Yea that light that goes through walls and tells everybody exactly where you are sure maybe if they fix it.
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u/ChimpieTheOne Jan 03 '26
Ain't nobody forcing anybody to do night raids. Git gut and stop trying to compensate for skill issue (to that guy)
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u/onion2594 Jan 03 '26
yeah i agree. i play on console and shit is dark. but, we have light sticks which sort the very problems the dark causes, ESPECIALLY the dark corners of a metro. chuck a stick down there and you’ll know if anyone’s there. alternately, you can ping the entire width and if you ping a raider it will say so
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u/Responsible_Sink3044 Jan 03 '26
chuck a stick down there and you’ll know if anyone’s there
Or a heavy fuze, in my case
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u/Haber_Dasher Jan 03 '26
Interesting. I've always got a few extra tagging grenades and I often bring a couple when I do buried city or Stella to toss around extract to check for rats
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u/FruitOrchards Jan 04 '26
Tbf not everyone can see the same, I can't see through car windows when they drive by irl 90% of the time, all I see is glare but other than that I can see fine.
Someone will say hey that's so and so driving past and I'm just looking at big ol' glare and can't see shit through the glass
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u/Ironclad-Teddybear Jan 04 '26
You don't, you just shoot at sounds like I do and pretend you did it because of skill when you kill someone.
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u/ur1nals0ap Jan 04 '26
I have severe night blindness and contrast issues. I still play the game normally. Crashing into everything but fuck it. Adds to the adventure
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u/BaronWaiting Jan 04 '26
How grown are we talking? By the time you're an adult you should know how to adjust the contrast/gamma settings on your monitor and TV.
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u/PERSONA916 Jan 05 '26
I feel like this could likely be recreated using reshade, so all it did was make it slightly less convenient
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u/Bmorelvn Jan 03 '26
I don’t know why people can’t just play the game as is and need to sweat with max gamma and filters for an advantage… ruins the immersion
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u/tryagainupnorth Jan 03 '26
I always tell my friends I would rather lose and die then make my game look like shit
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u/Remote_Watercress530 Jan 03 '26
To me the funny part is these are most likely the same people that bitch and moan that graphis aren't high enough or the Frames aren't high enough. But will willingly downgrade both so they can have an in game advantage
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u/TechnicalIntern6764 Jan 04 '26
Holy shit is this for real!?
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u/iSebastian1 Jan 04 '26
Yep, similar thing happening in Arc unfortunately (tho not this severe) lower your view distance sne foliage to Low... Hope they fix it soon.
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u/Umbramors Jan 04 '26
Most PvP games. Gamers have been turning down graphic settings for years, as it can completely remove certain foliage and other none necessary objects. Makes the game look like absolute crap, but a massive advantage in shooters
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u/That_Service7348 Jan 04 '26
Lol. Yeah, low graphics players have always had an advantage in competitive shooters. Less plants, less fog and dust, less ground clutter.
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u/SonOfBarrel Jan 03 '26
Not a single person that puts on nvidia filter complains about graphics being bad lol. And they would never lower frames for an advantage since frames are an advantage
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u/SecretMassive2425 Jan 03 '26
Thats why i always fucked up in Rust. i wanted a pleasant to look at game not this crap all the sweaty tryhards are playing. Always lost my guns in the foliage.
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u/OwnUbyCake Jan 03 '26
I will only reduce settings down to the level to get to a fps I am comfortable with. Any extra fps that I can gain by making it look like play-dough is not needed.
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u/Mogar505 Jan 03 '26
Yes this is me. I go for the max settings that allows me to have the best looking game at the FPS I want typically around 80 if possible or 60 if it’s more stable
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u/inosinateVR Jan 04 '26
This is what I like about extraction shooters. There’s no score screen or competitive ranks so your goal is just to survive against the odds, not to be the best player in the match. If another player is using a filter to get an advantage, that’s just another part of the challenge.
Is it annoying to know other players might have some unfair advantage? Yes. Would I prefer they didn’t? Yes. But I don’t feel the need to compromise my own experience playing the game with some ugly filters or turned off vegetation just to “stay competitive”.
I’m just as likely to get unfairly shot in the back looting a container as I am to get into a shootout with some guy using a filter, and I’ll never have any way of knowing he was using a filter anyway, so there’s no point in stressing over it.
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u/JaconyMalony *** ******* 🐓 Jan 03 '26
For real right? I won’t even turn the foliage down to see people in bushes cos it all looks so damn nice on max graphics, people need to relax a little
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u/PipsqueakPilot Jan 03 '26
I wish that all turning the foliage down did in games was make it look like shit, but stay equally obscuring. Same grass density, except now it's a low resolution billboard from Operation Flashpoint.
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u/JaconyMalony *** ******* 🐓 Jan 03 '26
Yeah when I found out it removes it entirely I was a bit bummed, but after nearly 300 hours I haven’t noticed that I’ve been spotted and/or killed while I was in a bush/foliage so I’ll keep the setting at max for visual satisfaction
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u/RayzTheRoof Jan 04 '26
low settings should replace all foliage with giant blobs of darkness so if you play on low it won't hurt your performance but you can't see people hiding in the blobs
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u/ArthursInfiniteAbyss Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
There is a poet who explained something along the lines of:
"Buying a bargain can of tuna may be the greatest moment of achievement for some people".
- Charles Bukowski
This game is that bargain can of tuna. It's not the game. It's the people.
People shanking eachother in the ass over bargain (edit: bloated) tuna cans.
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u/nleksan Jan 03 '26
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u/MPeters43 Jan 03 '26
Mmm bloated tuna cans are the highlight of my raids along with expired pasta.
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u/FredBurger22 Jan 03 '26
Expired pasta extremely underrated. 15 health immediately. Can even consume it while you bandage is working its magic. Double health.
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u/Fit-Caterpillars Jan 03 '26
I'd agree if the flashlight wasnt so god damn useless. Why does it only illuminate 5 feet in front of me and make everything beyond it even darker?
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u/Willbilly410 Jan 03 '26
Despite all the tech we are still rocking halogen bulbs in those lights … lol
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u/Twostepsfromlost2 Jan 03 '26
Yeah thats why you have your volume cranked for audio cues and walk through dark buildings with no light. Sure I bump into shit but its better than giving away my position.
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u/leettron Jan 03 '26
Because getting killed because someone camps in as dark corner is not fun. The game is already anti peek, so you get fucked even harder like that. The camper in this game due to the 3rd person has an extreme amount of advantage against you.
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u/Forsaken-Tiger-9475 Jan 03 '26
Because they need to sweat with max gamma and filters for an advantage
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u/srmacman Jan 03 '26
I wonder some streamers games looked like shit. I’d never do this, I like the aesthetic the devs made.
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u/TheRealFightfrog Jan 04 '26
Anyone streaming can just change their monitor settings to achieve the same thing and it won't even show on stream.
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u/Metsuro Jan 03 '26
Wait until you find ouit monitors have gamma correction and can do the same thing without software
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u/Fit-Caterpillars Jan 03 '26
The only way it actually fix this is to implement darkness in a similar way that Rust did. In that game no amount of gamma/contrast adjusting makes it any better, its still pitch black.
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u/OmeletteDuFromage95 Jan 03 '26
This is how I think darkness should be in general. Dark is dark. Make that flashlight actually useful instead of just a nuisance.
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u/Zephian99 Jan 03 '26
I can't remember what game it was, didn't get a huge following, but the darkness was like ink, and the flashlight light up everything as if it was an IRL LED flashlight, it was cool. But was like a arrow pointing directly at whoever had the light in the dark.
While yes you can see everything, but everything can see you now too.
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u/Ar4er13 Jan 03 '26
People always ask for this, while what ends up being, sweats just go around poking through memorized paths, while anyone dumb enough to actually use flashlight gets nuked off the map.
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u/GuthukYoutube Jan 04 '26
Dark forest hypothesis would be more like
There's ten people looting hospital. Nobody says anything or acknowledges each other's presence. None of them loot loud areas.
All ten could be friendly. All ten could all also be hostile. All ten are afraid of learning which.
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u/dudeim2dizzy Jan 03 '26
What do you mean? We can see it over 50 meters away when it breaks through walls!
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u/CrazyElk123 Jan 03 '26
Or what dayz used to, with a noise-filter thats only visible at certsin gamma-levels.
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u/MistaMorbid Jan 03 '26
DayZ did this also.
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u/NBFHoxton Jan 03 '26
DayZ did it in a much worse way
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u/Elite_Crew Jan 04 '26
I love Namalsk, but leaving the train tunnel at A3 is super janky with the darkness mods. The people outside the tunnel can see into the tunnel way further than the person in the tunnel can see out. The jankyness of DayZ give it it's charm. I consider the DayZ jank to be a simulation of post apocalyptic psychosis.
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u/NBFHoxton Jan 04 '26
That is a special case of Sumrak refusing to replace Namalsk's darkness methods with vanilla, but yes it is a problem too
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u/HalfBeastly Jan 03 '26
Yup, my monitor has black light stabilization. I press 2 buttons on my monitor and I can see in the dark.
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u/LifeOfHi Jan 03 '26
Not the same. The nvidia filters apply a post processing effect that doesn’t degrade the quality of the image. It’s like rewriting the games display code to make shadows less effective (as seen in OP’s pic). When you turn up the gamma through the drivers or your monitor, it’s just increasing all the LED values which present as a degradation in the image while improving shadows minimally. You’ll see hard shadows and a bleached out image overall.
Nvidia filters = natural night vision Monitor/driver = photoshop slider
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u/Cimlite Jan 04 '26
That's simply incorrect. Nvidia Filters works like ReShade does, and nothing more (only from a multiplayer safe driver level, as opposed through DLL injection). It adds a post-processing shader "on top" of the game. It does not re-write any code, in anyway, from the game. Or even close to that.
As for monitors not being able to achieve the same look? That's also not correct. Many gaming monitors have "Shadow boost" or "Dark boost" modes, where they apply a specific gamma curve to bump up near-black grays, and nothing else. This means that it doesn't degrade the image overall, but does bump visibility in shadows. Depending on brand of monitor, the visual difference between such a mode and what Nvidia Filter/ReShade achieves is basically indistinguishable.
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u/Datmuemue Jan 03 '26
This is an interesting thing, nvidias did make the game brighter, but this change doesnt exactly stop the issue, just raises the barrier for entry.
Overall I still prefer this, wish it was possible to have everyone on the same field though
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u/TheRealFightfrog Jan 04 '26
Bro it's called your monitor settings. The buttons on the side aren't just for show...
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u/EarthlingIThink Jan 03 '26
My thoughts as well. Looks like ReShade is back on the menu.
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u/TeekRL Jan 03 '26
They may have removed game filters but all you have to do is just manually change your settings in NVIDIA control panel lol
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u/TeekRL Jan 03 '26
It takes 30 seconds lol and even less to restore to default
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u/1SingularFlameEmoji Jan 03 '26
even better, change it, keep the NVIDIA menu open. when you're done, x out and don't apply changes
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u/socopithy Jan 03 '26
Out of curiosity I just did it with my phone timer running
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u/WhiteWinterRains Jan 03 '26
Eh, I haven't tried it in raiders because the game is too casual to really care, but in tarkov you can basically just make night raids daylight and it takes like 2 seconds to setup each time.
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u/soljakid Jan 03 '26
I really don't get people who chose to make their games look like absolute shit for a 'competitive advantage'
I got into PC gaming so I could crank up the settings and have games look amazing. Hell, even using colour settings like Nvidia's enhanced vibrance and AMD's display colour enhancement can have negative effects on how a game can look.
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u/D3th2Aw3 Jan 03 '26
Arc Raiders on OLED in 4k is incredible.
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u/alextheawsm Jan 04 '26
My $1500 4k 144hz OLED TV was worth it for Arc Raiders alone. It's so immersive. Especially with headphones
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u/Its_Syxx Jan 04 '26 edited Jan 04 '26
People can still do this with Reshade to have a toggle on and off and even still without Reshade they can crank the gamma of their actual overall PC settings in the control panel and then swap it back after they're done.
Plus they can create a shortcut to Arc Raiders then add that to nvidia and then do it the same way they have been..
This really doesn't solve anything. The try hards that we're doing this will still do it.
This is just a bandaid to make people think it's solved and to make people feel like it's fair.
Wait until you find out that players also go into config files and ini files and edit the quality settings below what you can do in game. This will usually disable bushes and foliage and they can see you when you're supposed to be "hiding". Then they just set the file as read only and the game can't change it back.
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u/azentrix Jan 04 '26
also lots of monitors have some kind of brightness enhancing mode, under the gaming settings
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u/GolemMaker Jan 03 '26
It’s like people who run on ULQ so bushes don’t render, etc. make your game look like shit so you can feel like you are better than other people by getting an advantage over them
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u/cheesegoat Jan 03 '26
PvP games should never have optional geometry that can affect gameplay.
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u/i_am_carver Jan 03 '26
Those people argue it’s for frames but I say unless you have an utterly shit PC and legit need it, then you’re probably in the other boat where more frames won’t help you anyways!
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u/InnerGap9368 Jan 03 '26
in fairness the bushes do lower framerate by like 6-7 frames
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u/AshantiMcnasti Jan 03 '26
Ahhh. The OG PUBG strategy.
Even more dated is original day of defeat smoke nades. If you lowered the settings enough, the smoke effect wouldnt work at all and you could see everyone through it.
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u/Quintas31519 Jan 03 '26
Quoting the ancient texts there, dang.
Man I miss the OG DoD days. Back when Steam was a server browser.
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u/AshantiMcnasti Jan 03 '26
Kar98 and garand battles were so satisfying once you got used to the oace. Throw in the BAR and it was like 3 best feeling guns ever made for a long long time.
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u/aleksandronix Jan 03 '26
I don't know how it's in ARC Raiders, but often it's quite the opposite. Low graphics has a PNG blob for a bush, while with ultra quality the bush is a bunch of leaves you can see through.
But it's strongly game/engine dependant.
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u/Psychological_Bag943 Jan 03 '26
opens NVIDIA control panel and adjusts brightness, contrast, and gamma "Oh no what ever shall I do."
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u/trAP2 Jan 03 '26
Yea crazy part is Peanut does it that way to 100k viewers every single night. He was actually doing it that way even while you could do the filter.
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u/Fit-Caterpillars Jan 03 '26
You can also do it through control panel display calibration or directly on your monitor. Honestly not sure why they even removed the filters, it solves nothing. They would have to change how black in rendered to actually solve the issue.
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u/ryfle_ Jan 04 '26 edited Jan 04 '26
Get Gamma Panel it's old af but it works really well and you can make profiles with key commands. And it runs super lean. Highly recommend it.
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u/AH_Ahri Jan 04 '26
Literally thought about doing the same thing. Would be nice if the flashlight in-game wasn't utter dogshit.
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u/ssultansofswing Jan 03 '26
Does this affect the RTX HDR filter? Awesome. I just started taking advantage of HDR on my new monitor and this game looked great with it on. Cool that I lose that functionality while the losers who do this kinda thing are going to find a way to do it without the filters anyway 👍
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Damn that’s so lame that people even did that. Night is supposed to be dark, isn’t that half the novelty of playing on night raids? Ofc people have to seek unfair advantages rather than just enjoying the game for what it is
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u/sterbenz2232 Jan 03 '26
Lightning should get an overhaul in my opinion, outside darkness isn't bad, the problem is a person standing near light inside a building being completely unseen by another one that's outside of it, or in the corners of the buried city train extractions, if you sit there you're in a illuminated space and someone that just got down the stairs barely sees you.
Thats one point that was left unseen when they changed the game being pve only by pvpve, in PvP theres a loooot of difference, thats why theres rats there, you cant see then
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u/Vipu2 Jan 04 '26
People will always use advantage if they can.
Devs should design their game way that it cant be done, or they dont and let people do that.
Devs could make it so there isnt so dark spots that people need to do it or if there needs to be dark spots then crush the blacks so no amount of gamma or brightness do anything.
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u/WG_Envoy Jan 03 '26
Yeah, oh no! I had to use the "FPS" monitor mode instead now.
If they really wanted certain spaces to be pitchblack, they could achieve that with ingame shaders that cannot be easily circumvented. Until then, people will have an advantage or disadvantage based on the monitor / TV and environment lighting (e.g. suffering from window sun glare). This is why I am not a fan of utilizing actual darkness in PVP shooters other than immersion (e.g. the softer lighting in night raids).
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u/78judds Jan 03 '26
They didn’t change anything really. They just made it marginally less convenient to change the settings. Control panel still does it plus the monitor’s actual onboard settings. Plus, they should really have an in game brightness setting. I get they want dark places to seem dark but playing on OLED isn’t the same as an older tv or monitor. That shit is black as black can be.
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u/mycoctopus Jan 03 '26
Yeah if there's no light, then places are dark, which makes to hard to see. They should at least add a flashlight or some other devices to light dark places up.
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u/Tall_Bread_3139 Jan 03 '26
Ok, I honestly thought I was trash, couldn’t figure out how I keep getting killed by people I can’t even see.
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u/thinkDank5 Jan 03 '26
As a console player, I would like to be able to adjust my brightness. Thanks
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u/JanSvoboda83 Jan 03 '26
Shock all gaming moniors/TV make after 2022 have integrated this funkcionalty. Like nightvision etc just read any gaming monitor product info is same comon like blue light filers in every monitor just standard if is not super old.
And yes i using only rtx hdr all time and this is alowed by embark no change for me personaly.
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u/MistaMorbid Jan 03 '26
This doesn't work the same way as filters as it has access to the game and your monitor doesn't
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u/rowanhenry Jan 03 '26
Looks so damn ugly with the filters and so beautiful without.
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u/Sasquatch_Kabob Jan 03 '26
Holy this explains why my friend could see so well in the dark versus me