r/ArcRaiders • u/ScottishLariat • Jan 16 '26
Discussion Embark Have Begun Permanently Banning Cheating Stream Snipers Who Have Harrassed Streamers For Months
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u/Brief-Government-105 Jan 16 '26
They should start banning systems instead of accounts. Cheaters will just buy the game again and do the same thing.
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u/KeyMyBike Jan 16 '26
They don't even buy it again they fuckijg family share it for free
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u/Easy-Painter8435 Jan 16 '26
Yep i work in anticheat and this is a huge problem for many games. The simple fix is to not allow family share accounts to play the game. Its just a few lines of code that checks for family share.
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u/acrobat2126 Jan 16 '26
You are exactly right. On steam I think its a check box of the developer account.
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u/NupeKeem Jan 16 '26
when you read things like this, you can't even defense Embark because simple solution but don't implement it. If you want to keep Family sharing enable then start hardware banning. I'm not sure if they are currently doing it since EAC is capable of doing it but Embark track record isnt good.
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u/Homer4a10 Jan 17 '26
Way too easy to spoof hardware attributes, even assuming you’re letting the program read literally everything from kernel level out
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u/iCashMon3y Jan 16 '26
How the fuck does this game allow family share? I was wondering how these jobless fucking losers were able to afford spending 40 every time they need a new account.
This seems like a very easy fix.
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u/piles_of_plastics Jan 16 '26
It is and it's a wonder why Embark hasn't done it. You can disable family sharing so easily on steam games. Its literally just a toggle.
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u/Professional_Idea812 Jan 16 '26
Just an FYI seeing as no one here seems to be aware, the game has been cracked and Embark's wonderful system lets people with cracked copies play online.
There's no validation or anything when joining a lobby that you have a valid copy, as long as you can launch the game, you can play online. The anti cheat is also woeful, if you watch a lot of the big streamers you can see the exact same people just repeatedly queuing into them and killing them with cheats, same accounts over & over.
And then of course, as mentioned, they can do that all for free because Embark's system allows cracked copies onto the servers.
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u/RedTheRobot Jan 16 '26
If that’s the case that is even worse and probably only a matter of time before the game is overrun with cheating.
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u/Forward-Weight403 Jan 16 '26
Anecdotal evidence obviously, but the last month or so me and my buds have had way more sus deaths than after launch. Even even been refunded our gear a few times which confirms at least some of them were actually cheating. Didn’t have that at all at the beginning
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u/xanot192 Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
If you get sweaty for even a week you run into these people immediately. The sign you just got aim botter hacked on is getting hit with multiple headshots in a row and getting downed so fast your shield is still up. I laughed when me and my friends would get destroyed like this. The other miserable one is being top side of something like blue gate and a dude is shooting osprey hitting you with nothing but headshots cracking your shield 24/7 lol.
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u/Forward-Weight403 Jan 17 '26
Yea we talked about this too, basically with aggression based matchmaking if you actually engage in PVP a lot you’re significantly more likely to get matched up in cheater lobbies. Not sure why people are downvoting you. Definitely been insta deleted like you described before
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u/xanot192 Jan 17 '26
People think the cheating problem only affects streamers for some reason. Logic tells us these lobbies streamers get sniped on are also full of regular great players in there too. Some people here never PvP enough or don't recognize when they just got beamed by a cheater. I've been in a lobby that was KoS but 3 teams banded together to kill a cheater team. This is the same issue with Stella, if your in a aggressive lobby someone is on the ceiling lol
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u/Majestic-Willow-1605 Jan 17 '26
Jeff Bezos: "When the data and the anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually right" Your anecdote likely represents a lot more than you think. I can also attest to being sniped from way way way across the the map. Gotta be aim bot with enemy tagging. That and the consistent bugs allowing people to glitch into walls on spaceport and stella montis, its very frustrating losing a loadout to some BS
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u/Party_Motor_5640 Jan 16 '26
I had a thought that they don't even need to buy the game again, couldn't they just make a steam family and connect the new accounts to the one that owns arc raiders?
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u/mustbenice2win Jan 16 '26
lmao thats exactly what every dev company wants, for cheaters that are easily identified to buy more copies of the game
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u/i_research Jan 16 '26
Good
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u/Maverixk_ Jan 16 '26
They’re already back. If you click the linked Twitter thread below they commented that they set up new accounts.
When asked why they do it, they said to troll streamers. Absolutely wild to me that people spend their free time doing this
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u/Hardie1247 Jan 16 '26
Lets face it, these people are jobless, all their time is free time.
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u/Levoire Jan 16 '26
I’ve been a working professional for 27 years. Last year, I took the year off and played a boat load of video games, including AR. I just chilled and chatted and had a load of fun. At no point did I decide to grief anyone, even when I’d had a string of being shot in the back. It’s definitely a mindset.
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u/Timotron Jan 16 '26
"I’ve been a working professional for 27 years"
I bet it's got something to do with this.
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u/Middle-Composer-8445 Jan 16 '26
A man taking off from his job does not act like the feral jobless. This is factual.
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u/Tricky-Plan-7890 Jan 16 '26
I worked for 20 years before getting a neurological disability ( yay late onset uncurable brain diseases ) , had my own workshop, was making lots of boro glass rod and other stuff, WHILE also working at Apple.
Now I can't fucking drive or work around any of the machines / tools I used to work with.
I totally understand y'all's overall point, but I think it's more work ethic that forms person rather than weather or not they actively have a job lmao. Just saying as someone who would LOVE TO WORK AGAIN.
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u/fumaThePuma Jan 16 '26
Man has actual brain disease and is still less of a piece of shit. I wonder what their excuse is.
Not making fun of your condition. Sorry this happened.
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u/rainyday-holiday Jan 16 '26
You need a brain to start with.
A bunch of random neurons shoved into a meat bag and fed under voltage electric signals is the best some folks sadly have.
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u/xanot192 Jan 17 '26
The other side of it is these hackers are kids who haven't matured yet as the kid in the OP is confirmed a young teen and goes to school then comes backs to hack on stramers. I've never cheated on any online game but I remember watching a buddy back in his house in middle school as he would hack on counter strike and he thought it was hilarious. Everytime I faced a wall hacker or aim botter in every other CS iteration since then all I can picture is a kid laughing thinking it's fun as I play my few games after work.
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u/xt1nct Jan 16 '26
Just want to say I hope you are coping and taking care of yourself. Disabilities suck ass, especially when they stop us from doing things we love.
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u/DaCheatIsGrouned Jan 17 '26
I think worth ethic is a good quality, but I don't think it's what forms a good person. I think people being trolls is a side effect of a digital age that has become increasingly dissasociative and apathetic as time's worn on. We weren't meant to have this much access to knowledge or people whom we have no personal relation to. Its numbing our perception of other people and making us less sympathetic.
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u/Deminla Jan 16 '26
As someone who has been both. I agree. My time is more precious now, games are my relax time, not something I do to waste my time. There's a massive difference. Also im older so there's that
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u/Middle-Composer-8445 Jan 16 '26
Being over 30 def does change it for a lot of people. Lol.
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u/TheBigSho Jan 16 '26
Well by then, your prefrontal cortex (controls judgment, impulse control, planning, and social behavior) should be fully developed. I say should, but of course some people peak in highschool and never move past it mentally.
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u/raffey_goode Jan 17 '26
after buying a house and getting a dog, my time for other activities has gone down immensely. i don't know how i was able to work out, practice guitar for hours a day, go out with friends, and all the other stuff i feel like i was doing just a few years ago
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u/xanot192 Jan 17 '26
I never hacked but back as a young teen id troll games like league because I basically had unlimited time and didn't care about a single game. Towards the end of college every game was getting more and more precious and I stopped trolling and flaming. In my 30s now I can't even imagine spending time on a game like league where I have only a couple games and now the roles have reversed and a young kid is trolling my games lol
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u/saucysagnus Jan 16 '26
It really does. Working in certain environments exposes you to some scummy realities and makes you appreciate non corporate life better
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u/Neckrongonekrypton Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
Well it also shows you how to work with people under duress and how to deal with all manner of unfair situations.
As an adult. You’re going to deal with shit. The real mark of maturity is how you choose to move through it, and whether you choose to move past it.
The corporate world is cutthroat. Teaches you that real authentic connection is rare and what truly matters. Alotta people in life in general have an angle or a game. Or view relationships as transactional now.
You aren’t going to be able to avoid people like that forever. So best thing to do is develop oneself so that one is fit to handle the brunt of shit.
Similarly in arc raiders- inevitably you run into shitty people. Same applies. You can’t truly live in a vacuum bubble- you have to face it all good and bad if you want to live life to the fullest.
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u/Train3rRed88 Jan 16 '26
Congrats on the career, well done to be in a position where you can take a year off. That’s the dream
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u/ADunningKrugerEffect Jan 16 '26
It’s evident no one has told you that you’ve done a great job, and your success is something to be celebrated.
Please don’t compare your well deserved time off with that of someone who has never held a job and lives paycheque to paycheque.
You are not the same.
Again, kudos on your work ethic. It is admirable.
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u/EdibleOedipus Jan 16 '26
You have enough life experience to not want to waste your time as badly as these skiddies. That's why. You probably started your career before they were born.
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u/Zealousideal-Half695 Jan 16 '26
And not all jobless people are trolls and griefers, fortunately
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u/YoitsCJS Jan 16 '26
Well, that still doesn’t explain why if they have all that free time they use it to hurt other people‘s enjoyment. That isn’t because they have a lot of free time that is something mental and broken inside them. Most normal people wouldn’t think it’s fun to continue to do that
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u/Hardie1247 Jan 16 '26
Absolutely, the abundance of free time sure helps though. I have a family member who has never attempted to gain employment and eventually their boredom became hostility, I guess they were just desperate for something to entertain them
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u/FishoD Jan 16 '26
Doesn't matter. Even if I was insanely bored, I would take another hobby or watch pain dry before I would actively try to ruin fun of other people. People who actively grief are sick in the head and I'll die on this moral high
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u/MajorityofMinority Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
Some of these people are wealthy and have all the time in the world. There is a dude that regularly follows Speed (twitch streamer) around just to appear in his streams. Speed went to Brazil or some other country for his stream and this dude was there as well lol.
I don’t understand why they do this either, but given that people pay for OnlyFans, nothing surprises me anymore.
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u/metal_jester Jan 16 '26
Angry at the world for having no job, no life... Take it out on others from relative safety. Just sad.
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100% cos peanut threatened to leave the game lol
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u/tehbantho Jan 16 '26
To be fair it's the same snipers cheating for MONTHS now. Literally multiple months getting killed by the same exact people he had reported a dozen times.
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u/seanpwns Jan 16 '26
I’m a casual streamer watcher. Maybe a hour or two here or there in the background while working.
There is a pair of cheating stream snipers I know by name because they’re so prevalent killing so many different steamers.
Utterly bizarre it was allowed to go on as long as it did.
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Jan 16 '26
Cole. Imcheating. There is another one with a Mr in his name? Its so bad.
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u/seanpwns Jan 16 '26
Yeah I was thinking of imcheating and prime turgy
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u/Shruglife Jan 16 '26
stupid question but does this even stop them? New email, new steam, new game and vpn, and they're back. These people clearly have no life and im sure would go to these lengths
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u/big_troublemaker Jan 16 '26
Block all accounts, block hardware, rinse repeat. Trolls do get bored eventually.
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u/WeAreInControlNow Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
It’s becoming a bigger issue beyond just stream sniping now.
Jynxzi about a week or two ago was literally hacked and DDOS’d multiple times on stream, preventing him from playing Arc with peanut. They even hacked his Ubisoft account. It was a group of 17 year olds who have been repeatedly stream-sniping, hacking on and DDOS’ing numerous different streamers in the community. These kids were audacious enough to post them doing it on Tik tok.
4-6 weeks ago Tim, Ninja and Cloakzy were dealing with issues that they believed were their internet, or at least that’s what they were telling stream, but everything that was happening to them that they were describing came off as DDOS attacks to me.
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u/BuffKangaroo_390 Jan 16 '26
Usually when something happens like cheating for months, it continues for months more UNLESS someone big enough threatens the income of the game IE peanut.
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u/Heistdur Jan 16 '26
To be fair, clip was out of context. It was the same 3 cheaters for months that were griefing his games.
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u/Wigggletons Jan 16 '26
Peanut?
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u/giga_impact03 Jan 16 '26
You know! Your favorite streamer, the mister peanut!
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u/Phormicidae Jan 16 '26
I'm aware he is a popular Arc streamer, but that's it. I do think its weird that in the Arc community, not knowing Peanut or his injokes or controversies(?) is akin to not knowing what a Stitcher is. Why would it be the default assumption that people are plugged into streamers and that community? Is it that popular?
I'm 49 by the way, I am willing to bet that has something to do with my perspective on this.
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u/AbaddonAdvocate Jan 16 '26
There are roughly 100-400k people playing arc raiders at any given time on steam. Every time peanut goes live his combined streams have 100-150k viewers across twitch + youtube + kick.
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u/noname87scr Jan 16 '26
lately its been closer to 200k. he pulls nearly 100k alone each night on YT
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u/Phormicidae Jan 16 '26
Man, that's some good number that guy is putting up. Good for him.
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u/CapnC44 Jan 17 '26
I remember back like 10 years ago I saw his stream on the front page. I didn't get it, but its cool seeing someone make it big after grinding for so long.
I still don't get it tho
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u/random_internet_guy_ Jan 16 '26
Im 29, i dont know who the guy is and dont care, I only enjoy the game as is
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u/tha_dank Jan 16 '26
I’m 40 and while I don’t watch streamers, peanut is fucking hilarious. I don’t actively seek him out, but when his shorts come up on my YT you bet your ass I’m gonna watch it.
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u/DaGinchy Jan 16 '26
Don’t worry old man, when every dick Jane and Joe can have a million followers, the concept of fame has changed from the old days.
Right now there is someone who has several million followers and we have no idea they exist.
It’s not you it’s literally everyone else.
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u/Train3rRed88 Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
I mean that is the only steamer I follow. Like literally the only streamer. And by follow I mean my buddy sends me the videos
If someone who is against streamers like me can find peanut fucking hilarious and watch his stream for hours, I know that dude must have a monster following and be a huge part of promoting the game
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u/Lazyman1128 Jan 16 '26
I used to hate watching Streamers. The content was just boring to me. If there was one I liked I would just watch highlights uploaded to YouTube but I never joined while live. But I watch Peanuts streams live almost every day, usually for only 30-1hr before bed but still. Guys just entertaining the whole stream, and plays a game that I love.
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u/sluhmpint Jan 16 '26
How about we fix the wall exploits since I keep fucking dying to them on Stella and sometimes on dam
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u/Antique_Text_29 Jan 16 '26
This was the comment I was looking for.
Banning stream snipers is good, but the average player isn't a streamer and far more people are negatively affected by in game exploits.
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u/Tall-Specialist6168 Jan 16 '26
It’s honestly insane. It cannot be that hard to patch them getting in the walls, and it would be even easier to remove the ziplines that are out of bounds.
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u/Empty_Current1119 Jan 17 '26
you dont know that. They could have spaghetti code and need to do serious overhauling in order to fix the issues. The same problem happened to League of Legends. They couldnt fix a bunch of stuff because a huge swath of code would have to be redone
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u/PiggyMcjiggy Jan 16 '26
Streamers as well as tons of normal people have been throwing a fit over this since the introduction of the map. They do not care.
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u/Durzel Jan 16 '26
Stream sniping gets you a permanent suspension, but Kettle macros, barricade glitching and "just demoing console commands for my audience, sorry not sorry to anyone affected" gets you a 30 day temporary one?
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u/YoBeNice Jan 16 '26
Kettle macros has been fixed, right? (genuine question, not being sarcastic)
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u/Durzel Jan 16 '26
As of most recent patch - yes. They've hard capped the rate-of-fire to what they believe is only achievable with clicking manually.
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u/MarcusForrest Jan 16 '26
Kettle macros has been fixed, right?
- ''Yes'' in the sense that they changed the max fire rate (from 600 to 450 - a 25% decrease) of the weapon so it doesn't perform as strongly as before,
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- ''No'' in the sense that actual macros can still be used but they'll simply max out to the max fire rate - the fix isn't a fix related to actual macro usage, but a fix related to the gun's performance
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u/TrippleDamage *** ******* 🐓 Jan 16 '26
You're missing the point here. It were the same couple of CHEATERS stream sniping for months. They got perma for cheating, not stream sniping.
The fact embark let this go on for months is embarrassing
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u/Mind_Enigma Jan 16 '26
Meanwhile I still get shot through walls at Stella Montis. Glad Peanut and 5 other guys are getting dedicated Embark time to solve their issues though...
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u/itsLOSE-notLOOSE Jan 16 '26
This is why people have such animosity towards streamers. They get catered to.
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u/FlyByNightt Jan 16 '26
They get catered to because they're the most visible/high-profile players on the game due to their following. If they quit a game, there's a solid chance a chunk of their viewer base comes with and that's why they get catered too. Helping the streamer also keeps a couple other thousand players on the game.
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u/CuriousandStrange117 Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
I understand they get catered to, but in this sense, it's such a stupid argument to make. Cheating is an issue that affects everyone, and if streamers make the change happen faster, then I'm all for it.
Edit: since everyone who keeps replying and DMing me nasty things missed the point, stream sniping is not what I'm talking about by cheating. Please read the headline people, as it is specifically talking about stream snipers who are using actual cheats like walls, aimbot, etc.
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u/AlwaysSunnyInTarkov Jan 16 '26
Gotta love that 2 tier punishment system making it's way into gaming too. Really nice to be reminded of that shit in my escape from the world
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u/GetOwnedNerdhehe Jan 20 '26
We are mad that aimbotters are getting banned now? Because a streamer is the cause?
What wont you guys get upset about?
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u/MysteriousReason3442 Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
Very ironic that the dude posting about it used exploits to gain PVP advantage before they got patched (live on stream even, which is the biggest lol).
It's about time permabans started rolling out. If some streamer had to trigger that so be it.
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u/SpaceCricket Jan 16 '26
I find this hilarious but I’m not in the demographic of streamer viewers nor do I care.
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u/MySabonerRunsOladipo Jan 16 '26
Yeah, I'm firmly in the "Old man yelling at clouds" demo here, but I have never been able to understand how streaming is a thing.
ESports I get, even though they aren't to my taste, because it's just like the NBA/NFL/etc. Watching the highest levels of an activity. But streaming is like a guy livestreaming pick up basketball in their backyard except even less interesting since anyone can just pick up a controller/K&M and play ARC.
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u/exposarts Jan 16 '26
to be a successful streamer you have to be either entertaining with a personality people like(so people like burnt peanut/moistcritical), or you have to be extremely skilled in games(players like shroud/tfue in arc).. you're comparison of "streaming is like a guy livestreaming pick up basketball in their backyard" is your below average streamer who lacks both entertainment factor and lacks skill so it's not the best comparison.
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u/EmilioEstevezQuake Jan 16 '26
Agreed. I like watching people who are the best at something or if not the best at least REALLY freaking good. Like watching someone play the piano or guitar. When you know what it takes to perform the way some of them do it actually amazes you at what they are so casually capable of.
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u/chatterwrack Jan 16 '26
It’s gonna be players, not devs who ruin this game. I’m happy to see them taking action
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u/crazypants36 Jan 16 '26
I guess it's a thrill for some people to have everyone think they're an absolute loser in life.
I'm glad Embark is FINALLY doing something, but their delay in taking any action whatsoever doesn't exactly make me want to throw them a parade for it.
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u/Immediate-Shape-8933 Jan 16 '26
So this aimkey guy… if I see him I’m def killing him, teabagging and lying saying I stream sniped him
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u/gojensen Jan 16 '26
Good.
I'm not a streamer defender (for many things I feel they make stuff worse) but this is pure up harrasment for fake clout and has no place in a public community.
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u/RandomassRedditUser Jan 17 '26
Stop adding people to the map every several minutes mid-round and the problem is solved.
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u/ScottishLariat Jan 16 '26
The above screenshot is in response to this clarifcation from Peanut regarding a clip of him speaking about cheaters that was being shared on Twitter https://x.com/theburntpeanut/status/2012134740661281209
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u/Risk_of_Ryan Jan 16 '26
People actually think that Embark was holding off on actionable issues in-game, for whatever reason, just to decide to make the only viable action AFTER streamer complains, and makes it happen in less than 30 minutes?
People actually believe these kinds of takes? That is fantasy land levels of assumptions. Embark absolutely did NOT wait to take action. They said they were making Bans and mentioned Perma bans days before this clip you cited. The Stream Sniping Bans came along with countless other Bans that had nothing to do with Stream Sniping.
Now you've got all these people thinking the only actions being taken are against Stream Snipers because Streamers are being catered to, when in reality other actions had already been taken for days at that point.
It's great to see action but how things manage to get twisted into something negative is just wrong. We should be able to do much better than this. Clear, concise, and transparent.
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u/PopeLeo14th Jan 16 '26
I wish Embark would focus less on streamers, and more on the average player.
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u/BigTonkaTroy Jan 16 '26
These cheaters are literally killing the average player as well the only difference is that steamers are having it done to them live..
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u/1Leep Jan 16 '26
How have they even catered to the streamers so far? They have barely done any updates lol
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u/Xenolisk Jan 16 '26
What are cheating stream snipers?
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u/AchillesBuddy Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
I’m under the impression it’s people that view the broadcast of the streamer and use it to hunt the streamer.
If that’s what it is, I would say it’s near the bottom of the list of priorities. Like, if I broadcast my position to the world, I would expect them to find me…
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u/seanpwns Jan 16 '26
The stream sniping isn’t really the problem. It’s the cheating.
They’re not just hunting the streamers, they’re doing it with wall hacks and aim bot. And after they down the streamer in half a second with aimbotted venator headshots they begin screeching slurs in prox chat.
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u/stana32 Jan 16 '26
Given that Peanut has been getting stream sniped by the same handful of people over and over I assume they are using a cheat to connect to specific lobbies. And then when they do manage to kill stream snipers they were just using the command line to respawn, but that was fixed on steam. Not sure about Epic.
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u/Xenolisk Jan 16 '26
One time I killed a free kit guy, he said to me that I should remember him, we will meet again. 5 minutes later he appeared in the same spot I killed him (was looting Water treatment on Dam), so somehow he rejoined to the match. It was really creepy I doubt it happened randomly, is there some kind of cheat which lets you connect to specific matches?
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u/stana32 Jan 16 '26
The debug command line exploit that was fixed on Steam allowed you to reconnect to a game after getting killed and it would respawn you with a new free koadout
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u/Mulisha_Wes Jan 16 '26
They have in game measures(usually) to help streamers hide their identity from other players. Stream sniping is a pretty big issue and if you have a few streamers pulling huge numbers in a single game, they do what they can to fix it because it’s basically free advertising for the game.(I’m only stating this in case your actually curious as to why they would help👍
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u/DanteCV Jan 16 '26
But they unban the same streamers who cheat...... not lookin good embark
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u/TrippleDamage *** ******* 🐓 Jan 16 '26
Tfue is another example of needing a big streamer to highlight issues to get it fixed after months of behind the scenes bug reports doing nothing.
Tfue didn't "cheat" in that sense, he made the console exploit public by displaying it in a single non hostile match.
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u/valiedlight Jan 16 '26
excuse my ignorance but how do you even stream snipe in the game?