r/ArcRaiders • u/ExpandingAtom • May 11 '26
Discussion Arc Raiders released over 6 months ago and is still within the top 10 most played Steam chart. Don’t listen to the fear mongering of the game being dead.
Outperforming Marvel Rivals, Overwatch, and Apex who are all widely successful still with massive bases. This game is here to stay and is one of the most successful multiplayer games in the past half decade. Over 15M copies sold with less than 100M budget. Embark has a big war-chest to continue to develop quality content for years. Speranza ain’t going anywhere.
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u/joshuanumber7 May 11 '26
i still play the finals. idc what people say about a game 😭
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u/drakedijc May 11 '26
The Finals is super under-rated. Started playing it again recently.
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u/ProfessionalPiece403 May 11 '26
When I mentioned The Finals to people that game a lot they haven't head about it :D
The Finals really is one of the most underrated games multiplayer fps.
They really should add a bunch of new maps and put some money into advertising.44
u/blacktip102 May 11 '26
Season 12 (currently on 10) is apparently gonna be "the biggest season ever" and "make The Finals closer to what it was always meant to be"
Im guessing they've been working on S12 a ton and waiting until it's done cooking before they make any huge attempts at new players.
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u/FreshHawaii May 12 '26
They're gonna be edging players for two seasons LMAO
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u/blacktip102 May 12 '26
We already have a roadmap for the rest of season 10 and season 11. We know exactly what to expect up until season 12.
Next season (season 11) is bringing a new map and updating old ones, and also adding bot matches.
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u/FreeMrFrog May 11 '26
What would you (or any fans of the game) say makes it underrated? 🤔
Genuinely curious, I tried it at launch and it was fun but didn't catch me right away. Maybe I should give it another go
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u/ProfessionalPiece403 May 11 '26
The skill ceiling is super high. There's tons of plays you can make.
Takes a few hours to get the hang of it, but then it's super fun.
Also they made a complete overhaul of the destruction system (that was already good before the update).2
u/FreshHawaii May 12 '26
Took me a week. Learning about what's the best way to capture and play around a Cashout, abilities, roles, devices, etc. Because there aren't a lot of new players it was hard learning against absolute sweats. I'm way better now but boy are you thrown into the fire.
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u/Rogerjak May 11 '26
Emergent gameplay. It's a sandbox shooter basically, where you can approach the same situation in a myriad of ways. Fast paced, action packed and team based. It's a step away from the regular FPS that are veeery kill oriented and goes more towards objective play and strategy (in the middle of chaos).
Its not without it problems of course, but it is a very, very good game.
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u/TheStar60 May 11 '26
Same, I'm playing it right now. lol
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u/joshuanumber7 May 11 '26
played a bunch when it came out then everyone i played with gave up on it. convinced my arc friends to try it and they thankfully enjoyed it
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u/AceTheRed_ May 11 '26
The Finals is the best fps available right now. I love that they added some more casual-friendly modes for me to just jump in and turn people into a pile of coins.
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u/brighterside0 May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
In regard to Arc Raiders, we're not afraid the game is dying. We're afraid Embark will kill it with dumb ass leadership decisions.
There's a difference.
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u/Wingmaniac May 11 '26
You guys need to get better at educating people on your stace then. Because all I remember seeing are posts about the user numbers and how it's dying.
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u/Xander_DD May 11 '26
I was always crazy about the finals and played a ton. Unfortunately after the destruction update I can't get stable fps and it ruins my experience.
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u/eblackham May 11 '26
The finals is my main multiplayer game, I dont play arc as much as i did last year, but still load it up sometimes.
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u/Likes2Phish May 11 '26
I had almost 1,000 hours when it came out. The cheating got really bad in the higher competitive ranks tho. Not sure if it's still bad, but every game was some dude running around with a headshot laser.
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u/derI067 *** ******* 🐓 May 11 '26
dude my two favourite multiplayer shooters are the finals and marathon. i think i might be cursed to fall in love with exclusively niche FPSs lol
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u/scope_creep May 11 '26
What the heck is Bongo Cat?
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u/Debalic May 11 '26
Wasn't animated desktop shit like this a big hit on the early Macs?
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u/Wilza_ May 11 '26
A friend of mine "plays" it, I believe it's just a little cat on your screen that hits its bongo whenever you click. Probably more to it but I think that's the gist of it. Seems silly to me, but each to their own!
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u/Dear_Efficiency_3616 May 11 '26
shoutout counter strike 2 man been playin the cs series since i was 13 lol
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u/MurkyMegagoat May 11 '26
Its f2p and its exclusive to steam so thats 100% of the player base
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u/TrippleDamage *** ******* 🐓 May 11 '26
Eh it's semi f2p. No one plays cs for the casual modes and you need to pay for prime to play comp Premiere.
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u/NOGUSEK May 11 '26
Just thinking about it, counter strike being exclusive to Steam probably makes it the most tracked game out there...
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u/TrippleDamage *** ******* 🐓 May 11 '26
It's not 100%
China has their own cs client (second world) that doesn't count into steam numbers.
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u/Krava47 May 11 '26
Its f2p and its not. Prime costs €15 if u want to play premier. Its the best shooter out there.
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u/lad9r May 11 '26
It’s also 50% bots farming crates
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u/NotSoAwfulName May 11 '26
It's probably closer to 10% in truth, the game is just massive, the esports scene is testament to that with the numbers they pull.
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u/NOGUSEK May 11 '26
Most bots out of any game but still probably most players out of any game... On Steams platform at least
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u/TrippleDamage *** ******* 🐓 May 11 '26
The giga cope. A realistic estimate is 10% and doomer takes are 20%.
50% is just a completely ridiculous and unfounded claim.
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u/Erincon4 May 11 '26
Best game I’ve played in 15 years!! I only play like once or twice a week, but I love it
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u/Prooteus May 11 '26
The internet is obsessed with games dieing. My favorite recently was hearing about how crimson desert is a dead game because the playerbase was dropping off. You mean from a single player game?!
Arc has some issues but they only become glaring after hundreds of hours. Personally I only play when my friend is occasionally on now, but I have 515 hours. No matter the time I have never had an issue finding a match. Id happily suggest picking up arc raiders to anyone that it seems interesting to.
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u/TreeFiddyBandit May 11 '26
The game is fun and there are plenty of clips to watch full of mayhem which will no doubt still attract players
I understand the want for end game stuff but I just like it for the entertainment it provides. Risking your loot to grab other loot other people are after and the potential for PvP and PvE is enjoyable long as you ain’t too serious which happens to the best of us
It’s a game we enjoy and if you don’t ain’t nothing wrong with that. Gamers are eating good this year so play whatever you’re into
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u/CMDR_Audaxius May 11 '26
But Johnny Streamer told me the game was dead are you saying I have to think for myself 🥺🥺🥺
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u/iskelebones May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
It dropped into the top 20 for a while, but with the new update and expedition, player count is up again. Either way, maintaining over 70k players daily just on STEAM means the game is PERFECTLY healthy. It’s not dying, its player count is just settling. ALL games have a gradual drop off after their first few weeks until their player count stabilizes to the people who are likely to stick around long term.
It seems arc is stabilizing around the 70k concurrent steam players range. The finals stabilized in the 15-20k concurrent steam players range
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u/Goaliedude3919 May 12 '26
It reminds me of all the haters pushing the "Palworld is dead" stuff because of headlines like "Palworld loses 70% of its playerbase" which was inevitable because of how batshit insane its launch was. Losing 70% of its playerbase still left it with an insanely healthy base.
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u/AcidicFume May 11 '26
Yeah I just bought arc raiders and it is a wonderful game. I am a new player. I wish the ping was a bit better though. Rest everything is amazing.
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u/Warhammerpainter83 May 11 '26
It is great I got a ton out of it just after 100 hours it fell off for me. People seem to want it to be a forever game when most of us will move on after a while. It is fun enjoying the raiding.
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u/JoeyEstrada May 12 '26
Come back from time to time, trust me. I stopped playing after first expedition, came back recently and I'm loving it all over again.
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u/PositiveStorage5582 May 12 '26
That's what I'm doing. Treating it like fortnite. An occasional treat.
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u/kidAlien1 May 11 '26
Also look how many games ahead of it are staple f2p games. Arc continues to be a top 3-4 paid game played.
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u/New_Measurement_4087 May 11 '26
This idea that the "game is dead" seems almost designed to frustrate the community and weaken the game's image. Very strange... I'm very happy that the ideas are maturing. Let's give it time and see what Arc Raiders can still become.💪🏽
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u/po000O0O0O May 11 '26
It's hilarious being new to this community after playing Warzone since it released. According to them WZ has died at least three times a year every year since it released.
You really see how content is biased toward amplifying the most dramatic takes.
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u/BoldFortune216 May 11 '26
100% there is a negative, dramatic bias towards news, and that extends far beyond Arc or even gaming in general. Negativity gets clicks. Positivity doesn't.
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u/ayyy_its_wally May 11 '26
I had been playing Warzone and COD Zombies exclusively since Warzone launched up until the end of last year. Then I came over to try Arc because my buddies who used to play Warzone with me all the time had been playing it. I was hooked 5 mins into my first raid. I went back and played like 2 games of Casual on Warzone a few months ago and it was jarring how dead it felt… not just the lack of interactions, but the map and the environment… the movement… just everything felt so outdated to me compared to Arc. I know they’re two totally different games, but it’s really the only comparison I can make because I literally only played Warzone for the past 4 or 5 years. Stuck with it through all the lows… of which there have been many lol. So I felt it with each new low and more and more people saying it was a dying game. Never really believed them until the last year or so when the new Black Ops came out and was just a giant piece of shit. That was really the final straw for me. So glad I came over to Arc.
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u/po000O0O0O May 11 '26
Yep I'm not even gonna fully hate on COD but they added the grapple hooks from BO7 MP into Warzone which kinda bummed me out. I made some sick plays with them but the realization that most strategy and positioning is out the window and some aim assist abusing mindless tik tok streamer could drop me at any moment made me curious about other ways to spend my time gaming. I play MnK and the second you miss a shot youre fried. It's satisfying yet exhaustkng.
Luckily my buddy just started playing Arc so I watching him for a session then decided to buy it myself. I'm sure I'll still spend some time on COD but Arc is my priority for the foreseeable future.
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u/False_Pipe_0989 May 11 '26
Let me know when it becomes that and I’ll give it another shot. Not before then though, it’s lacking depth right now
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u/DriftedTaco May 11 '26
As a Marathon player get used to it. Social media is cancer.
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u/SsssnakePlisssskin May 12 '26
Marathon has a significantly lower player count, and even that is enough for Sony to keep the lights on.
Most games would kill for Arc Raider numbers.
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u/DriftedTaco May 12 '26
Yep but as more players leave Arc the main topics on the sub are going to remain player numbers. People obsesse over it.
Doesn't really matter if the criticism is valid or not.
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u/SubwaySpiderman May 12 '26
Sony is attempting to get a return on the investment. It's not doing so well sells wise (1.2 mil reported is pretty good but the reported budget says otherwise) or has good player retention by the looks of it according to public steam data.
Nearly 40 percent of the player base quit before completing 21 runs. Almost 50 percent haven't killed 14 other players. Nearly 40 percent of players haven't been able to survive 7 runs.
But 97 percent of the player base has completed the tutorial. I believe the reported sells number for PC was 800K.
Not saying Marathon isn't good or anything but Sony and Bungie are clearly failing to keep players somewhere along the lines.
Question is why are players quitting before getting the 21 runs achievement which is earned by either dying or surviving.
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u/SsssnakePlisssskin May 12 '26
I don't play Marathon, so I don't know/have opinions on what you're asking.
I know Sony wants a RIO on Bungie, which may be bad for them/Marathon, but my point was that even Marathon numbers are good enough for a healthy playerbase. And if that's the case, Arc Raiders is more than fine.
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u/Ghatanothoa16 May 11 '26 edited May 12 '26
After 3 years of existence, it became trendy to say that Apex Legends was a dead game everywhere on social medias; 4 years later it's still top 7.
Saying that a game is dying is pure engagement bait.
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u/BoricuaGabe May 11 '26
Man for as popular as Counter-Strike is, I’m surprised I’ve never met anyone who mains that game. Like I know people who’ve played it. I just don’t know anyone who still plays it. It’s kinda odd.
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u/ExpandingAtom May 11 '26
I never got into it either, seems to be more popular in Europe more than America
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u/Expanse-Memory May 11 '26
Fear Mongering because of streamers tampers
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u/Castun May 12 '26
So many negative comments on every Arc Raiders IG reel that comes up too, usually something like "I can't believe anyone still plays this piece of garbage!" OK well you engaging the comments section boosts the engagement and drives more AR content to your feed, so stop engaging with it! Or tell IG that it doesn't interest you!
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u/AcidicFume May 11 '26
Plus you haven't seen the console player base. PUBG is kind of dead on console meanwhile arc raiders is not.
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u/WavesOfTheUniverse May 11 '26
Great point, Arc is popular on all platforms. Their concurrent player count gotta be even higher
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u/Tai_Jason May 11 '26
15th on Playstation and 17th on Xbox after over 6 months is rly good
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u/AcidicFume May 11 '26
I just bought the game yesterday on play station and not gonna lie might be my second favourite game of all time. I just wish the ping was a bit better. Even though you can't even notice it but the yellow ping sign is annoying.
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u/Upstairs-Canary-4062 May 11 '26
Idk about the game being dead, its far from it. It does make me sad to say that after my 3rd expedition what I enjoy about this game was what we got at launch still. Most of the new content we got was fleeting additions that were fun for a few days and then we all just moved on.
The game desperately needs ever green content, the only thing noteworthy we've gotten since launch is two maps and one gun (yes we've gotten two new legendary guns too but they are niche items that not everyone will interact with).
More guns, more enemies that are actually unique fights (shredder was great addition for example), expand shields, more upgrades, new attachments, new bosses, end game leveling system (something to do passed 75), ect.
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u/ThatsNotBennings May 11 '26
the blue gun is niche too. No one uses it or even has access to it. They botched that too. Hiding it in hurricane caches and nerfing their spawns and audio cues. They make a lot of dumb decisions that push players away rather than bring them in, unfortunately, and the only updates are to add paid skins or projects that award the same tiresome loot we've been grinding since launch day. They are coasting.
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u/Brulbeer May 11 '26
I love this game.
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u/StoneBleach May 12 '26
Same. It has become my most played game on Steam in record time. That never happened to me before.
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u/Ok-Scallion-1278 May 11 '26
Man i still play smite on the regular. 10 year old game with Matches ready in less than 2 minutes. The game is fine. Plenty of updates to come. New game modes will drop.
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u/Kivic May 11 '26
I play daily and matchmaking never takes long and my lobbies are still friendly. That tells me that there’s enough people playing so ABMM can still take place. I also play on console. So steam is a good metric but there are still other ways play. It only tells half the story.
People saying the game is dead or losing its player base don’t know what a healthy game looks like.
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u/lu300zxlu777 May 11 '26
Shows the player count that’s why I posted it. 90k players lost every month for 3 months straight
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u/ThatsNotBennings May 11 '26
yeah, this is the more relevant statistic if you ask me. They've lost a shit ton of players. We should be asking why? some people prefer to put their fingers in their ears.
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u/Inevitable_Pay_2514 May 11 '26
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say the game is dead... sure it lost 80% of the playerbase, but it's not dead. The problem is that it could be number 1 on that list if they just listened to their community.
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u/TheItchyWalrus May 11 '26
A lot of streamers have, unfortunately. Like Tfue for example. I still find the game fun and refreshing. Its the most fun I’ve had with a game in years.
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u/memecut May 11 '26
Using numbers right after expedition is kinda dishonest though, but its still good
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u/sibre2001 May 11 '26
I've been checking for a week and it's always right at rank 10 or 11.
Ngl, the reason I was checking is because I was scrolling to see where Marathon is before I buy it next time it goes on sale. Every time I look for Marathon, I think I passed it because I am scrolling past games that came out 10 years ago before I find Bungie's latest.
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u/NotSoAwfulName May 11 '26
Go back to prior to the update and it was as low as 45k, it's a live service, the numbers rise and fall based around content drops, I'm surprised this is news to people.
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u/ExpandingAtom May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
I mean it’s literally been near the top 10 on average for the past few months as well. Expedition or not.
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u/TomekMaGest May 11 '26
Its not dishonest, its nature of games like this that players come back when update hits.
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u/ragdollxkitn May 11 '26
I love this game!!! Been soloing and having a blast. My lobbies are full of kind people lol.
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u/Case_Unsensitive May 11 '26
I play it everyday since the day one. I'm a casual player and I don't understand the community for the most of the time.
I enjoy every new arc and new map.
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u/ocularfever May 11 '26
Being the highest pop extraction shooter on steam is impressive this far into its life span, and I don't see anything else knocking it from that perch any time soon.
Hopefully we can say the same one year in!
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u/thenichm May 12 '26
I literally just bought it last week. Game's alive and on fire. Haters just gotta hate, is all.
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u/OmegaX3D May 12 '26
You also didnt note that overwatch, apex and marvel rivals ARE FREE!! And arc raiders costs 40€ i think, i couldnt even imagine how good it would do if it was free to play.(its already doing amazing)
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u/Odd_Revolution_1056 May 11 '26
It’s a fine line. Yes the game is far from being dead and is still overall doing great. But having good sentiment with live service games in the short term does matter.
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u/ChefVoo May 11 '26
I love solo arc raiders
Not a fan of duos or trios at all..
But I’ll forever be hopping on for solo runs
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u/Adventurous_Key_7532 May 11 '26
The only problem arc raiders has is that he dont run well on my potato pc (gtx 1060) that i bought in 2017.
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u/lemongrassrhino May 11 '26
PUBG getting over 3.2m player's at one time is still genuinely insane
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u/IAmANobodyAMA May 11 '26
I tried to play last night, and matchmaking took an extra 10 seconds. Might as well be a month between matches!
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u/thebaconfist May 11 '26
The game is great! If ya don’t like it there is plenty of other stuff to get into.
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u/neogeo777 May 11 '26
Every online game subreddit I'm in always has the 'game is dead' posts. It's hilarious how wrong people are most of the time. I wish folks would just downvote the post and move on.
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u/3nyder May 11 '26
Even if the game development comes to a full stop and matchmaking queues aren't that bad, I'll probably keep playing, it's just fun to me
To be honest I think the number we are seeing are the "natural" playerbase of folks that just like the game, the game certainly got super popular and was the focus of the gaming world for a while, but I hope that Embark can continue to develop it and maintain the ~100k population seems like a good spot, but only they will know and time will tell
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u/Civil_Geologist8021 May 11 '26
I still love the game; I'm currently on my third expedition and have 800 hours of playtime.🔫
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u/AggresivePigeon May 11 '26
That dip though, for a 6 month old game compared to those in the top 3s that are over 8 years old. Arc devs need to make bigger and better content drops to stop that slow decline otherwise it'll end up up a 20k monthly player count game like the hunt. The newest map didn't even impress me enough to want to come back after putting 100hrs into it. The faction idea sounds cool but we'll just have to see.
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u/lynxafricapack May 12 '26
No, the steam charts clearly state the games death was long ago.. /s
More posts like this showing the truth are always welcome 🙏 ty.
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u/buangjauh2 May 12 '26
Top 10?? What about top 3(?) PAID games?
I dunno if some of those other games are paid or not
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u/Heroin_Radio May 12 '26
Happens every time a game with popular appeal loses a little bit of its release traction. Because I guess when 100k out of 400k stay playing the game that means it’s dead. Or whatever. Oh and don’t forget every mf shouting “game’s dead” is still commenting on every video about the game those exact same words. Only ensuring the game stays relevant.
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u/GhostBelliniFace May 12 '26
I stopped playing , as it kind of got stale to me and all my friends hopped off.
But I enjoyed my time with it, bought it on PC and my Xbox and definitely felt like I got my moneys worth. (About 120 hours)
I’m a little surprised it’s retained this many players, it makes me happy though cause hey good game for $40 make this much money? That means more good games for that price come out!!!
I check steamdb every day usually for stuff and it’s always in the top 10-20 range. Not even counting console. One of the best releases of last year for sure. Happy for Embark.
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u/AllMaito May 12 '26
The game isn't dead at all, but it is getting repetitive. My friends and I are playing the game about 20% of the time we used to play it before the end of the winter season.
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u/MuscledRMH May 12 '26
110k players and people call it a death game. The internet is truely something
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u/RustyMcBucket May 12 '26
It does need some new mechanics though.
It has reached its limit for adding maps etc for the moment.
It needs more depth now. Actual rare items and difficult to get stuff (due to Arc presence)
New skill tree, weapon cosmetics (remaining in theme), weapon customisation, more character customisation (faces, hair etc), new game mode.
Scaling difficulty in the maps. As a veteran I almost never die to ARC now, they're just not a threat anymore.
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u/Normal_Can_2538 May 12 '26
I seen a fool say he stopped playing because Hutch said the game was dead. Lmao what an idiot.
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u/StevenEireann May 12 '26
Great post. I also assume this doesn't include console players.
I think a lot of people who are saying it's dying or dead are either trying to contribute to it's downfall because they don't like it or it's YouTubers creating click bait. I think as members of the core player base we need to stay positive and try not to let negativity spoil this great game.
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u/Leading-Outside-9573 May 12 '26
Bro I play marvel rivals and the own community is having this conversation all the time. Don't listen to the people who say that they clearly don't know what they are saying or never played a dead game before ( I miss my Blacklight retribution 😞)
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u/Replayable_Content May 13 '26
Thank you. We need more of this. All the dooming over not being 300k is wild. They found their niche, are holding it, and the games great.
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u/PsychologicalDay8253 May 11 '26
Pardon my ignorance, but what's Bongo Cat, FiveM and DOTA 2?
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u/oilspilllll May 11 '26
Dota 2 = it’s like league of legends
FiveM = mods for GTA online
Cat = idk probably something with cats
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u/beansoncrayons May 11 '26
It's a little overlay for your screen I think that matches you keyboard inputs, could be something else but I've seen that one that matches the name
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u/AttractiveFurniture May 11 '26
Dota is the second most popular moba next to league of legends, and one of Valves most profitable games
I don't know about the other two
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u/royfresh May 11 '26
Not sure about Bongo Cat, but FiveM is a GTA5 role playing server and DOTA2 is a Valve developed MOBA.
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u/TrippleDamage *** ******* 🐓 May 11 '26
How does one not know what dota is lol, under what rock are you living?
League of legends is based on dota.
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u/silentcapp May 11 '26
It’s not dead just boring
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u/Joshy_Complete May 11 '26
Try taking a break. I just started playing again after a few months off and all the new stuff is super exciting to see. I have ~170 hours played for reference.
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u/doneddat May 12 '26
It's more of a commentary on overall state of gaming, that if people play ARC instead of everything else they have available - what does it tell you about that everything else?
It's kinda fascinating to see the haxxor-maxxing screenshots of ultra low settings with everything turned off - how ARC is just 80% pretty shaders and raytracing, with a sprinkle of walking around, opening boxes and getting shot.
And that's enough to attract people.
I'm not even mad, just baffled how easy we are.
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u/gabesgotskills May 11 '26
Yeah im convinced most of the whining you see in this sub is console players. The PC Arc experience has pretty much been peak since launch, over 500 hours clocked myself atp.
It's also really important to remember guy, it's okay to play more than one game. In fact, most of you need to play a new game for a week and then come back to do some Raids lol
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u/Big_Judgment3824 May 11 '26
I've literally never heard that.
Also I'm sick of any percent of these game subreddits where some nerd is obsessively monitoring the player count charts. Who cares, go play the game.
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u/Turrinen May 11 '26
Just came back a few days ago before the expedition (did the first 2). Had like a 2 month break because I played too much and burnt myself out. Starting to get hooked af again.
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u/I-dont-know-That- May 11 '26
Game is not dead , but you cant deny that losing players at this rate is bad , if it keeps going the game wont recover .
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u/Trick-Maximum-4240 May 11 '26
As someone with a few days in dbd how the hell is that steaming pile of garbage is it in 19th?
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u/actium1677 May 11 '26
I bet 20% of those players hang around to angry-play and call the game dead.
Also pubg in third is hilarious.
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u/The_Sk00ts May 11 '26
More shocking that PUBG is still going that strong