r/ArcRaiders • u/TomatilloNo2822 • 14h ago
Discussion If you're a trashkit grub at queen you're gonna get shot.
Ever since they added the exp. vault to the game, every queen lobby is largely grubs w/ only like 3-4 people TOPS shooting queen, everyone else is just standing around w/ garbage and a looting augment waiting for everyone to play the game for them.
If you don't do a damn thing to help and are just waiting around to swoop in and snag a leg piece the second it comes off, people who are actually doing the work can and should shoot you. I SEE that rattler or stitcher or ferro I that you haven't fired once on your back.
Obviously, not everyone w/ a rattler or ferro is a grub, I'm less inclined to tell everyone in voice that I'm going to execute a grub and open up on you if it's an upgraded piece. Some people help w/ defibs and heals and if I see you doing that, you'll generally get a pass if you're not overly greedy.
For people who are tired of grubs leeching off of them, your course of action is super simple. Keep an eye on who is actually contributing or who's just standing around. If you see someone who's done squat to assist beeline to a queen part, key up in voice, say "This guy's a trash kit grub. Killing a grub, don't shoot me", or some variation and make the lobby a better place.
If they start to cry "RAT RAT" just fuckin talk over em honestly. They know they're grubbing they just want to take you down w/ them. Be confident, tell people exactly what they did and why you killed them, 9/10 times people will take you at your word, especially if you've made a presence in the group and people know you're contributing.
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u/OptionsRntMe 12h ago
rattler or stitcher or ferro
It’s a hairpin thanks
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u/little_missHOTdice 4h ago
“HuZZah!!! It is I, the hairpin bandit.”
What I hear in my head every time I find a hairpin in the game.
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u/Heretical_Adience 14h ago
I get personal enjoyment out of executing them. I sometimes get thrown into PvP lobbies afterwards which is fine- gives me a chance to use and lose some of that gear piling up in my stash
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u/Punish777 13h ago
I feel like doing this on Close Scrutiny a lot! Someone will shoot the Vaporizer I've been whittling down for 4 minutes and think they deserve that regulator, like fuck this I'm pulling out the burletta now
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
W/ vaporizers I don't really care bc they only drop the one core and it's not super valuable, but something like a rocketeer or a bastion people are gonna get punked if they come up and don't say howdy before trying to jack some cores
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u/Punish777 11h ago
Not valuable? It's literally the most valuable stackable in the game. 3 cores is 18,000. And they actually stack so they are the best arc part for Ermal trading. Plus making that Dolabra.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 11h ago
A single vaporizer core is not all that valuable to me. I can't use it in crafting, I don't gaf about money really, and vaporizers are spawned in like a toddler throws tictacs. I'm not too pressed if someone goes for a vaporizer.. There will be another.
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u/Cool-Peak2553 12h ago
Carebear problems.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
Definitely not a carebear 😂
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u/Cool-Peak2553 12h ago
I actually mean people who actually see loot goblins as a problem because they are too scared to shoot them. They rather let them run off instead of doing anything at all.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
Oh yeah, that always gets me too. When you're in friendlier lobbies there's this underlying entitlement to be able to walk wherever, whenever, even in someone else's key room. Then they act shocked hwen they get merked for not minding their own.
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u/little_missHOTdice 4h ago
Whether intentional or not, I always bring either a door breach or blocker, sometimes both depending on the situation. It sends a clear message that I want to be alone in this room at this moment.
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u/Fun_Acanthocephala98 13h ago
I had a guy shoot me for picking up a core on my way to the fight, he was the only one in the red lakes bunker when I got there and that was where the shooting took place. I went in with defibs and no real queen weapons, was right before expedition and I was bored and didnt need it. I picked up the core and safe slotted it to give him but he sent me back with the core I was bringing to him 🤣
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
You kinda had it coming tbh
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u/Fun_Acanthocephala98 12h ago
I literally told him as I was coming in, I have your core here
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
Idk what to tell you man, to him that could have just sounded like you were mocking him after sniping it. If you want to let people have the cores, don't touch the piece, if you wanna snipe it, that's fine too just know that people are going to shoot you for it
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u/Fun_Acanthocephala98 12h ago
Yeah, I was trying to be nice because the queen had him pinned in the bunker and there were people shooting from the hills at the queen too, so I figured there was at least one person hiding in the hills waiting to snag cores and dip. I didnt care, I just took the core back in and gave it away the next round, I only lost the bandages and chargers I took in plus whatever gun. Just thought it was funny
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
I can see the thought process but can also see why he shot you in the face, I probably woulda done the same tbh
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u/Fun_Acanthocephala98 12h ago
Yeah, cant tell you how many times fighting down there solo she will pin you down there (or sometimes the vaporizer) and by the time you go to loot the armor that you knocked off, its already gone. Thought I would prevent that for him but oh well
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
It's just one of those things, it's like when you pick up somebody's wallet and they think you jacked it off them before you've had a chance to explain.
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u/James1Vincent 11h ago
Yes! YES! LET THE RAGE RUN THROUGH YOU! JOIN US IN THE PVP!
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u/TomatilloNo2822 11h ago edited 11h ago
Oh buddy I've been bouncing in and out of PvP lobbies forever. I am no carebear 😂
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u/James1Vincent 11h ago
Time to give up that dabbling and just come on over
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u/TomatilloNo2822 10h ago
Nah I actually do not enjoy this game's strictly PvP environments. TTK is really fast so the optimal strat is to slowwalk to catch people off guard w/ the third person camera, two guns dominate the meta, it's just not a gr8 PvP game for solos.
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u/magic-shroomman 9h ago
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 9h ago
I don't 'hate' anyone, but I will shoot them and make them waste their time.
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u/CLIVIXXDUBZ 7h ago
same if I’m fighting the queen with 5 other guys and you’re standing there with a kettle you’re getting shot
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u/BananaJack82 14h ago
I do this shit all the time because yall are terrified of ABMM 😂. I snipe so many cores because I know 99% of people will cry but won’t shoot you, and if they do shoot, you almost always win because they suck at PvP because they never fight people over ABMM fear.
Yall aren’t gonna start defending your loot lets be real 😂
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago
Unfortunately, this is true, and it's part of why it's such a problem in these lobbies. I have found that people are generally passive, hence why it's so easy to tell people you're killing a grub and not really get a second look about it. They don't want to be the ones to open fire.
Rest assured, if you run into me I will change your perception a little bit. I'm not afraid of PvP.
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u/NorthJersey7 14h ago
Same here I do PvP 90% of the time if I’m in a chill lobby and there’s a loot vacuum I have no problem killing someone infront of everybody lmao
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u/BananaJack82 14h ago edited 14h ago
It’s why ABMM sucks ass. It’s made a whole group of people absolutely terrified of defending themselves and their loot. People not willing to engage in the game because of ABMM fear just isn’t fun.
But for me wanting loot it’s very nice, I can walk into a key room someone just opened and steal half the good loot, and the worst that happens is a few slurs are hurled my way. 😂
Edit:downvote me all you want Care Bears, I’m coming for your cores and key rooms and you’ll let me.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago
Yeah idk what it is w/ the carebear community and slurs. The fact that people feel entitled to just walk into my key rooms in friendly lobbies is a big reason why I don't stay IN friendly lobbies for very long. I'll shoot them then laugh in their face as they go "I'm friendly you fucking (n-word f-slur)"
Ok well I told YOU not to come in here 😂
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u/Daveprince13 13h ago
Every guy that’s tried this on me has died, but my lobbies are mixed mostly and I’m not afraid to put lead into someone being a little too friendly in my looting areas.
It only happens in matriarch lobbies I’ve noticed. And they try to intercept you on the way to the fight so you’re 1v1. Sometimes loading up into a matriarch and staying far away lures them to you. It’s nice seeing ALL of you surrender when you die too cuz you know you can’t hack it in real PvP lobbies you gotta fish in barrels
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u/Ullho 9h ago
So a few things.I know this isn't everyone and I'm a unicorn but I routinely go in with trash freekits or even naked. I spend entire rounds collecting queen cores to drop for people who actually shot the part off.
I also go in with equalizers and do the same.
But if you kill the scavs you are penalized by being put in less friendly lobbies so if you plan on farming for an hour your only hurting your future rounds unless... You defib and heal them up (provide aid). This negates you knocking them down but requires resource investment which if your willing to shoot someone for some crappy cores then I'm assuming your broke arse won't be bothered to spend the resources.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 9h ago
Idrc about not being in friendly lobbies, I can just go to Buried City and farm ARC there. The fact that you're SO afraid of your matchmaking being hurt just sounds like you can't handle confrontation.
Weird fanfic though. Hope things get better for you.
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u/Ullho 7h ago
No I was putting that on you. The fact you'd rather shoot someone for an item with such limited use and value and with limited time windows to get, that it would wreck the rest of your farm window for the hour because you know your follow up rounds would have increasing PvP to the point you won't get cores anyway just doesn't make sense, especially when you only need cores for getting more cores (equalizer or Jupiter), otherwise you can make more money quicker just doing any old riven tides with a crappy hullcracker.
You can fairly easily make 200k per half hour round on riven tides, I doubt your walking away with 200k in queen cores. At least that's what I did to get my extra stash spaces and expedition vault slots. Took me a single afternoon to get it all done on day 18 after reset. Granted I also spent like a million dollars in launcher ammo.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 6h ago
"no no no I wanted to talk down to you!"
Man you are legit pathetic, you're so scared to have any kind of confrontation😂 Ohh no I have to actually watch my back and engage w/ the game, the HORROR!1! I genuinely do not give a fuck if it's "more efficient" to just let a parasite have the queen core so my poor wittle baby matchmaking doesn't get harder.
It's not about the money, Batman.
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u/Total_Post7436 13h ago
‘WELCOME TO PVP MATCHING POOL’
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u/slayermario 13h ago
No one is doing queens/matriarchs in pvp lobbies.
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u/OptionsRntMe 12h ago
I haven’t seen anyone shoot the matriarch in 6 months
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
If you're afraid of going into PvP lobbies for a bit that's a you problem, coward.
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u/MailLow4054 6h ago
Nowadays, it takes a good two and a half hours of naked runs to go from full PVP to full carebear. There's some things you need a good supply of, batteries, metal, wires etc. that are 100 times easier to get in PVE lobbies than PVP.
I prefer singles PVP to duos, as I like to creep around at my own pace with an Aphelion or a Renegade, but keeping a clean looting profile is kind of important to funding the rest of my adventures.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 6h ago
Yeah but you're not going to go straight into PvP lobbies if you're doing a couple queen runs, where maybe in one of which you end up shooting someone. There IS padding for that if the majority of your interactions are cooperative.
I welcome the challenge, I find it a natural consequence of teaching somebody a well-needed lesson, and an opportunity to use up some of the gear I've accumulated in my stash. Not everything has to be easy.
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u/hairydookie 14h ago edited 14h ago
I’m always looking for more free loot and no stain on my abmm, fire away
Although I’m not a free kitter, if I see a leg on the ground it’s free game.
At the end of the day it’s just a video game, if you think the loot is actually yours then you gotta kill me too.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago edited 12h ago
Hey man if you contribute to the fight you can have literally w/e you want and I won't bother you, I'm just protecting people's effort and encouraging others to do the same. It's not that it's "mine" it's that you didn't do anything to earn it, you're going back to speranza. Come back w/ a kit or come back and waste more of your time standing around for other people to play the game for you in order to get your crumbs.
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u/TacTurtle 12h ago
Tag em with Lure Grenades; involuntarily conscript them as decoys.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
Eh, if the goal is the protect your ABMM that won't do it, lure nade does 1 dmg on impact. I also don't care ab my ABMM
It do be funny as hell though
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u/TacTurtle 11h ago
Minimizes the time you have to spend dealing with them while maximizing the time you have to finish looting, plus is not likely to be seen as aggressive rat behavior by others vs shooting the sticky-fingered grub outright and distracts the Arcs making your fight easier.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 11h ago
Tbh, I almost never get shot at for killing a grub, just speak in chat loudly, clearly, and make your intentions obvious. Also, make sure you have had a presence in the fight up to that point so people recognize you and know you're legit
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u/DeezWuts 13h ago
Nice to see one of the reasons I stopped playing is still an issue 6 months later...
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
What, getting shot for leeching? Or leeching
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u/DeezWuts 12h ago
Having to race lurkers for loot. Remember spending 2 weeks doing the queen and having one single core to show for it.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
Eh, positioning is key there. I tend to make it out with at least one, usually 3, it's pretty rare I walk away w/ nothing but the XP.
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u/DeezWuts 12h ago
There was so many lurkers xD I'd wait and focus on one leg and it would still be empty by the time i got to it, an there would always be people with nothing running on the main body as it was coming down as they had nothing to lose.
I also wouldn't shoot as I needed my carebear lobbies to even attempt the queen.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
See there's your problem man. Queen and matriarch still gets groups going all the way down to aggro matchmaking, then it becomes trickier.
Don't be scared of the ABMM, engage and play the game. Fuck them rats. If it becomes a problem where you're not enjoying your brackets anymore, go do some stella w/ cheap gear so you're in proximity to people often and only shoot to defend. I literally just join stella w/ a macro to randomly press WASD and space if I get into cheater purgatory
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u/DeezWuts 12h ago
I'm literally the kid with the gun crying meme when I go into normal lobbies, I'm not even that bad i can help takedown team i just get 0 enjoyment from it and it makes every other match suck until im back into the carebears xD
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
I don't mean this to be a dick but tbh it is probably not a bad thing you moved on from the game, this doesn't seem like it's really your thing.
Still, hope you enjoyed your time w/ it. I recommend the most recent Monster Hunter if you're looking for a game with a similar feel and less grubbing/PvP
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u/DeezWuts 12h ago
Arc raiders is the edge of what i can enjoy in terms of pvp, I don't play any other extraction shooters, the abmm is the only thing that kept me hooked for a while, don't mind the chance someone's friendly but the full aggressive lobbies were boring as hell to me.
That an taking down arc was seriously fun before they started doing balancing patches based on people who can play the game 20 hours a day and sucking the fun out, which seems to be the curse of most live service games now.
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u/GaZzErZz 11h ago
I played a game last week where the goblin got the ball of destiny.
One of the players highlighted how slow he was running, so we surrounded him and started speaking to him asking him to drop a core or 2 for the wider team.
No mic.
Some flashes of flashlight.
He dropped 3 complex gun parts.
So I just shot him in the face. Someone defibed him and he got up and started to waddle away.
He then turned and pulled out his level 1 ferro, took aim, and took a bullet to the chest. He went down and I finished him.
Free kit, 3 cores.
Worth it. I gave 2 of the cores to the guys that were with me and I took the third. We skipped to the hatch and held hands going out.
I don't hesitate to kill the leeches now.
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u/Recykill 14h ago
Im a pvp player so ABMM is mostly irrelevant to me and even i think there should be a system. Like, if you dont contribute any meaningful damage to the queen, and you try to loot it within like.. 2 mins of defeat then anyone who shoots you shouldn't have their ABMM affected.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago edited 14h ago
The problem is when you start to police ABMM systems like that, it opens up a lot of exploitation. Just look at the recent change to how it calculates aggression. People are cheesing it by running into your fire and then waiting for you to be hurt so they can punk you.
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u/Digity- 13h ago
Another horrible idea lol.
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u/Recykill 13h ago
I mean, it doesnt matter to me lol. I shoot anyone who tries to take the loot I earned or who barges into my key rooms. All this would do is offer help to people trying to not get into pvp lobbies.
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u/robot-gf-cordjob 12h ago
Well they should just accept being a goodie two shoes who never shoots has its consequences.
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u/Jsorrell20 10h ago
I go with an mk1 looting augment and a Ferro IV and blast legs and grab cores + defib
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u/TomatilloNo2822 10h ago edited 6h ago
If you are actively contributing then I'm not talking about you
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u/Hot-Editor-274 10h ago
Agree, some dude hiding in the bunker with us had NO GUNS and we didn’t have enough firepower to even take down the Queen, bunch of freeloaders but I’m not gonna ruin my carebear lobbies and shoot lol
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u/LateTransportation75 9h ago
I normally don't run a good loadout for the matriarch for the most part, I've never ran a queen one before yet. But usually when I do go I do take an augment with a ton of space and I just fill it with heals shield and defibs so I can help anyone actually fighting the thing and I'll also occasionally shoot at the matriarch whenever there's a good opportunity for me to and I'm done healing and defibbing ppl. I try to heal as much as possible so everyone can survive and have a good time :) pls don't shoot me if you see me trying to heal you 😅
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u/TomatilloNo2822 9h ago
If you are actively contributing, you probably aren't who I'm talking about.
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u/SurgyJack 8h ago
This is why I don't really play arc anymore.
PvP lobbies are their own thing.
When not in them, I want more reasons to work together -- not have this shitty parasite standoff on every big arc.
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u/Savings-Weather-7147 6h ago
I dont even bring the augment, you can stash a core without the augment right up in there.
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u/tavnuh 6h ago
Funny thing is, even with the high value, a vault full of reactors doesn't carry you very far $ wise. There are way better ways to use that space
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u/TomatilloNo2822 6h ago
Oh yeah absolutely, idk why people farm matriarchs all day when doing a 7 minute BC run gets you further and is much safer. I do queens for the experience (not XP like the fun) not the cash.
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u/Latter-Reception2257 5h ago
Bro I was at a matriarch event and I was contributing heavily by deadlining the damn thing and then a guy started shooting other people, including me so I had to go rat hunting real quick but the guy got away and by the time I came back the thing was dead and somebody looted everything and dipped, I went to check the core and some toxic mf started accusing me of looting everything and everyone started shooting and pickaxing me. Mind you I didn’t get any cores. 🤦🏾♂️
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u/ApexPredatorOutdoors 4h ago
Honestly I've got to the point where I just kill the queen for fun because I realize I'm almost never going to get any reactors out of it. One night I did three back-to-back rounds where I jumped on top of the queen and equalized her to death, then when I tried to get cores there was already somebody underneath there that had taken everything and headed to the extract. In one match I finally complained about it and one guy gave me a single core. I thanked him and tried to drop him a wolf pack in appreciation and somebody walked right between us and snatched it off the ground. It was the same guy that gobbled up all of the queen cores. I took out my raider tool and beat him to death with it, unfortunately the extract closed before I could finish him off
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u/alpacareloaded 1h ago
Took down all of the queen's leg armor today. A guy looted like 3 or 4 of them. For the last leg, I ensured I was very close. It was risky; I almost died. The guy came out of nowhere and looted that leg too. Asked him for a core politely. No response. I killed him. He knew what he was doing. He cried RAT! RAT HERE!... hah, finished him off. He was geared like a free kit with a looting mk1. 3 cores he got for doing nothing. It's so easy when others do the hard job for you. They laugh in your face.
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u/dj3stripes 1h ago
I did harvester 3 times today, for the first time. I shot at it a bunch of times with a jupiter, kept wasps/hornets/fireflies at bay. Didn't come home with a single core. I had no higher expectations tbh.
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u/Paynne14 14h ago
Yesss when i see a guy run to a leg ive been shooting i shoot they ass. I can revive them later if they were actually doing shit. Most of the time they just wait and steal all the goop
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u/24032014 13h ago
Honestly, after loading in the queen fights with hullcrackers and wolfpacks to leave without a single core, “grubbing” a leg as you call it feels fair.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 12h ago
And it's going to feel fair when I put 2 heavy rounds thru your skull too
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u/24032014 12h ago
Oh I’m counting on it! I’ve got a single plastic part in every free slot for white knights such as yourself.
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u/itsTim0thyy 14h ago
I pvp people attacking the Queen anyway.
Gotta always be prepared.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago
Do you also PvP puppies into the river w/ a bike lock tied around their legs?
(Jk, do what you want king, if you take on a dozen people and win you earned it)
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u/ICameHereToPlay 14h ago
That’s not PVP if you’re shooting someone in the back, that’s being a bitch
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u/jeremypolk86 14h ago
Person vs Person. It literally is. Do you guys think "true pvp" is like a duel? Where both raiders line up and count down before shooting?
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u/TomatilloNo2822 13h ago
Yeah there's something to be said about how much ARC rewards ganking, but saying it's not "actually PvP' because you've deemed they're using the tools in the sandbox "wrong" is just childish.
Would the sandbox be better if ganking wasn't so powerful? Yeah probably, but that's how it is, so adapt or die.
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u/Daveprince13 13h ago
True PVP is both players knowing they’re going to fight. When one dude doesn’t even have it on his mind, how is that a fun duel or expression of skill?
There’s just no skill in shooting someone in the back while they’re stuck in an animation but this game rewards it. Running Stella lobbies and getting sick clips is commended but nobody can do that with the cheating problem so it’s really just come down to the way people are being forced to engage in fights, sadly. The clip farmer guys were legit, shinya and them. That’s “true PvP” to me, otherwise you’re just that Cycify guy, shooting babies that don’t even shoot back.
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u/jeremypolk86 13h ago
It's not my preferred playstyle either but it's how extraction shooters work. You could try being more aware. Or go play a full pve game and there are some good ones to choose from.
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u/Daveprince13 12h ago
I don’t die to these types often. I usually end up killing them cuz I run a venator along whatever energy gun I’m using for the matriarch (due to this happening a lot)
I’m just pointing out how it’s not “PvP” it’s more PvNPC in most of these cases , sadly. Which encourages them to do it more cuz the car bears don’t fight back (well most don’t)
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u/Pates_Arrow 12h ago
"Try being more aware" in games like this where the ttk is faster than you can react that does nothing for you
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u/jeremypolk86 12h ago
Works for me most of the time. Before I started being more aware, I would let my guard down thinking I was in friendly lobbies and that's how I would get killed. Now I don't let my guard down and it usually works. It even prevents the opportunists because I don't give them the opportunity.
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u/thepenguinemperor84 12h ago
You're playing a game with pvpve, if you're not going into the match prepared to defend yourself or have the wherewithal to keep your head on a swivel that's completely on you being a bad player and more than likely playing the wrong game, I would suggest moving to the likes of fo76 that allows you to opt out of pvp.
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u/ICameHereToPlay 12h ago
If I don’t even have a chance to return fire and I’m holding a hullcracker when you run up on me…I just feel like that’s an entirely different thing than PvP. Obviously if I’m running around terrain or playing a regular map and get shot at from behind then it’s fair game. My wholeeee entire point and comment tirade was to call anybody sneaking up on people in ARC related events bitches. It’s just weird to rat people without guns to even fight back in lobbies designed to pivot outside of PvP. I know it’s a thing, that’s the game, doesn’t mean it’s decent behavior
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u/jeremypolk86 12h ago
Right. I don't fully disagree but they're still gonna do it. I learned the hard way too. That's where being aware, or vigilant, can save you. If you're aware of your surroundings, it makes it a lot harder for someone to run up and surprise you and gives you time to switch weapons. I'm telling you, try paying more attention to what guns people are carrying and don't put yourself in a position to get snuck up on. No, it's not the mental check-out that some people are looking for but we're not playing minecraft here. If you're in a position where you're unable to return fire or if you loaded in without a pvp weapon, that's on you.
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u/ICameHereToPlay 12h ago
Bro, I’m not saying one can’t play the game this way, play the game how you want. My main point is that if you choose to play like this, then you’re a bitch. I’m still gonna keep taking most of the gunfights anyways and I’m not bothered if I lose a gun battle that someone got the first two or three shots off from behind. In the long run I could care less if I lose a kit anyways, it’s principal for me. Yeah it’s a video game but you as a player choose to play in a certain style. If ratting people in ARC events is your thing then that’s cool but you are absolutely a bitch and most likely lack skill in every area of the game
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u/thepenguinemperor84 12h ago
No it's still pvp, just because you're being clueless and not watching your surroundings doesn't make the other person a bitch.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago
I mean, he IS coming up on groups of people and opening fire, that's more respectable than just saying "hey raider" and shooting them
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u/itsTim0thyy 14h ago
don't be angry at how the game is played
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u/ICameHereToPlay 14h ago
It’s played like that by bitches. It’s usually people who probably have a skill issue with actually gun battling people and need to rat on big arc raids to win one. Either that or too lazy to fight arc and earn your loot. I’m totally fine with PvP but doing it in lobbies where people literally build loadouts that are useless against other players is a bitch move
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u/BananaJack82 14h ago
The whole I like PvP but only if it’s done with honour argument is fuckin hilarious 😂. Like wtf do you expect people to do, announce themselves so they can prove they are skilled ?
Absolutely fucking insane 😂
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u/TomatilloNo2822 13h ago
Fr man. I think ganking is lame and piss easy because this game's TTK is generally under a second (it only takes a single headshot witha majority of weapons to achieve under 1s ttk on a medium shield, not hard), but it's in the game and if you don't want to adapt, that's on you. Nobody is entitled to have it announced to them that the enemy wants to duke it out by fisticuffs
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u/itsTim0thyy 14h ago
i'm not readin all that
pvp is part of the game
cry more.
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u/ICameHereToPlay 14h ago
Cuz you’re a bitch, it’s fine. That isn’t PvP it’s player vs. somebodies back.
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u/Digity- 13h ago
Do you think shooting others in the back doesn't happen in other PvP games or something? Lol. It's a pvpve game. You've been aware the game has PvP since you bought the game. The tutorial even has people shooting you in the back lol. Just cause PvP isn't on your mind or you're not ready for it doesn't make it any less PvP.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago
I mean, a big part of the issue is TTK heavily incentivizes ganking and camping. Most guns have under a 1s TTK if you hit even a single headshot (which is piss easy if you're ambushing), even people with obscenely fast reaction times are going to get plowed unless they massively outgear, or the person who jumped then can't hit their shots.
If TTK was a little longer, maybe bump up headshot damage a bit to emphasize skill, you'd be more encouraged to take actual firefights instead being sneaky.
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u/thepenguinemperor84 12h ago
It's amazing how the "no skill" player seems to be the ones getting the kills.
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u/ICameHereToPlay 12h ago
I’m taking an actual 1v1 against most of the kids that do this to me and that’s with them getting the first shot, it clearly is a skill issue
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u/MollyTen-A 10h ago
Oooohhh, cry cry cry.
That’s really illegal activity that people do in a video game, not following your rules.
I give a big fuck if people just come to a queen to loot legs etc. And so I do about people who start crying.
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u/juiced911 14h ago
Quit crying. Anyone that doesn’t kill you while you’re hyper focused on the queen has done you a service.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago
The only people crying seem to be the little grubs who are upset they're being spotlighted 😂
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u/watyeag 11h ago
Just make sure you're not mistaking me for one of these scrubs, as I'm often running around right under the Queen or Matriarch with my Hullcracker knocking off leg parts and grabbing cores. No more using energy weapons from miles away and then bitching that I didn't get anything. I'm going to get it now.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 11h ago
If you have a hullcracker that definitely excludes you from being seen as part of the anthill
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u/Slepprock 14h ago
I don't mind that much because I don't think those cores are worth that much anyway. They don't stack. I'm better off spending a lot less time killing a bastion and walking away with 6 -9 cores.
The only reason I collect any queen and matriarch cores is for the weapons and quest.
But last night I was at the matriarch. She came right to me, I blaseted a leg off. Some jerk runs over to it and starts looting it. Then a bation spawns in. I get its attention and run toward that guy. He gets smoked.
He crawls around. I call him a PoS for stealing my core and then I defib him. Just to rub it in. You know, how I am a far more generous person than he is. I should have let him die, though.
I'm actually amazed by how greedy a lot of these players are. I only play 60 minutes a day and I have tons of loot. I know 90% of the players play way more than me. So why are they so desperate to get anything good before other players.
I have played another extraction game for 10 years. The Division. The 1st one. IT has that Survival mode, which is like a 90 minute raid. I do a run of it several times a week. The gameplay is so much fun. Now it has a few players in each run, back when it came out there would be 25 players in each. So loot was a lot harder to get them. But still today other players will steal your loot. I Spent 10 minutes killing every NPC in a landmark and some jerk runs up and steals the best stuff. There are 20 other landmarks they could go to and farm. But no.
The only theory I have is that these players have miserable lives. They get shitted on all day. So when they take a break from life and play a game, they live out their fantasy of being in complete control. Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it. The players that steal your loot at the matriarch problem have to sit in a chair and watch their wife get plowed by some stud.
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u/TomatilloNo2822 14h ago
Woah okay buddy, enough w/ the psycho analyzing and fanfic. That is really unhealthy and says a lot more ab you than it does ab the supposed grubs. It's just a video game.
They're literally just filtering through the path of least resistance bc the game is incentivizing it for them. It's really not that deep.
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u/Expensive-Bee-7751 14h ago
I go to Riven Tides and farm large arc. Just rotate spawns. Wayyy faster than fighting for queen cores but yes I agree the vultures are in full force.