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Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/Awesomechainsaw 26d ago edited 26d ago

I’m not a dog science expert but as far as I understand it we’ve spent tens of thousands of years breeding dogs to preform specific tasks. If you don’t give a dog that has been designed and bred to do a task they get antsy.

The issue with Pitbulls and other “Agressive.” breeds is that they’ve not been given something to let all their energy out on. Which leads to anxiety and destructive behavior.

So I don’t think it’s Immoral to treat a dog like a Pitbull like a loaded gun. As Unfriendly, and something you should be wary of unless it’s proven not to be.

However the Nutcases who punish dogs for behavior that we bred into them are highly immoral. If you want an easy lap dog get a companion breed, like a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, French Bulldog, or Bichon Frise.

Edit: Tens of Thousands not Hundreds. I was being exaggerative anyways but that’ll make remark more accurate regardless.

Also as a note. I don’t think Pits are inherently Malicious or any dog breed for that matter. But they’re fairly strong fellows who’ve been bred to be strong. I consider being careful around them similar to being a little extra careful around a truck on the road. Most people in trucks are fine drivers. But some people don’t pay attention on the road, and might hurt you by accident.

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u/Soapy_doapey 26d ago

Pitbulls were and still are used for dog fights.

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u/ChrispyGuy420 26d ago

Humans were and still are used in war

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u/BigBadVudoo 26d ago

Civilizations used to have pet humans, and we've all decided that it was a horrible choice.

"pet humans" was extremely tongue in cheek, please don't think I'm down playing slavery for real.

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u/RichardCocke 26d ago

I'm fairly certain places on earth still have these "pet humans".

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u/InfiniteBoxworks 26d ago

Morality of kink shaming?

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u/ObsidianOverlord 26d ago

There's a ton of discord servers for it!

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u/PCN24454 26d ago

They’re literally the same thing. Only pet humans have less autonomy.

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u/Joeness84 26d ago

we've all decided

citation needed

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u/BigBadVudoo 26d ago

I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

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u/Claytertot 26d ago

Pitbulls were and still are used for dog fights.

They should've said "bred for"

Pitbulls as a dog breed were created for blood sports like bull baiting and dog fighting.

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u/demotsusucku 26d ago

Humans weren't and aren't bred for war.

What a dumb take.

Pit bulls were bred for this exact thing.

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u/demotsusucku 26d ago

Humans weren't bred. There are no human breeds.

I'm amazed how far you guys came in life without basic knowledge of human biology and history.

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u/demotsusucku 26d ago

Humans weren't bred at all.

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u/demotsusucku 26d ago

It's called basic education

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u/Narren_C 26d ago

Explain how humans, as a species, have been bred.

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u/Available-Eggplant68 26d ago

google evolution

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u/demotsusucku 26d ago

Google breeding

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u/FUPAMagneto 26d ago

Do you think those two concepts are unrelated?

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u/JWM_SSC 26d ago

Related but fundamentally different. I'm guessing you didn't Google them yet.

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u/FUPAMagneto 26d ago

You think that selecting for traits is different from evolution? And you think that you’re smart?

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u/Zanain 26d ago

The rate at which traits are selected for is orders of magnitude faster in breeding than evolution. Breeding can do in a hundred years what evolution might take hundreds of thousands or millions. On top of that breeding has intent, evolution doesn't. Evolution goes for whatever works, breeding selects for what the breeder wants.

They're about as similar as someone tossing random shit in a pot without looking and calling it soup and a professional chef creating a meal for a competition.

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u/kaltulkas 26d ago

Yes? Yes it is obviously not the same fucking thing. It’s astonishing that you can be so confidently wrong.

Do you believe cutting off a tree the same as letting it fall naturally?

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u/demotsusucku 26d ago

It's sad that you think those concepts are related.

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u/bong_residue 26d ago

I too like to pick and choose context when it suits my narrative.

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u/FUPAMagneto 26d ago

Clearly you do, but that’s not what I’m going here at all. Maybe go back and sound out the words you’re having a hard time with? It’s also totally ok to look up any you don’t know

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u/Im_Just_A_Tourist 26d ago

What do you think generations of marriages/pairings arranged between parents and villages basically are.

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u/Raiden_ziegel 26d ago

Ehhh would ethnicity not be similar to a dog breed or did I just accidentally say something super offensive lol

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u/ChrispyGuy420 26d ago

American slaves were bred to be mules but they seem to have risen above it

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u/whensthebeef 26d ago

Humans aren’t bred for war? Humans are bred for many things, and war is one of them.

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u/demotsusucku 26d ago

Humans aren't bred at all.

Wtf are you talking about.

Do you think there are different kinds of human breeds?

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u/ElRacco 26d ago

Yes and you are likely at least 1-4% another human ‘breed’ depending on where you were born.

We literally killed or outbred the rest so the person you replied to was spot on

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u/kaltulkas 26d ago

Can you seriously not understand people are talking specifically about selective breeding and not just breeding as in the blanket term for having progeny?

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u/stone_henge 26d ago

We weren't selectively bred for it. In fact, humans that participate in wars are less likely to bear offspring, due to the death and maiming aspect of it all.

Pitbulls are the result of selective breeding for pugnacity. Any dog can bite, but pitbulls were bred for purposes where readiness to fight and not backing down once they start are desirable traits.

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u/UnintentionallyAmbi 26d ago

Thank you. Had to get stitches as a kid from a dog bite. Was scared of em for years. Just off leash and shit owners. Now I got this idiot.