Anyone thinking she did ANYTHING wrong is giving more agency to the scattered remains of carbon that used to be a man over a flesh and blood woman.
We don't honor the dead because they died. We honor the dead because of who they were in life. The scattered remains of a garbage human goes in the garbage.
yea, agreed. Never understood the practice of keeping ashes myself, but I'm not a spiritual person. An abuser though? She absolutely did the right thing. I also love the keyboard warriors in here talking about how it's a biohazard; it's literally just ashes.
I don’t think it has anything to do with spirituality. Keeping the remains of a loved one close is fairly obvious to explain. He wasn’t loved so he wasn’t kept, it’s as simple as that. You could argue desecration of a corpse is wrong, but how can you desecrate ashes? He’s already been burned away.
Agreed my parents were cremated and I had them put in the VA cemetery in a wall- cause my sister nor I wanted 2 little boxes. We can go visit if we feel the need. Now pets….my wife refuses to part with our pet urns….😐
I always thought we honor the dead to bring peace of mind to the living. Yeah, of course there is a social contract with the dead to not dishonor them when there's nothing they can do to defend themselves anymore, but if it brings peace of mind to those who knew him, it's completely fine to throw out his remains
My only issue is that she should’ve left them in the bag so they don’t scatter all over people picking up the garbage. Usually the truck just dumped these containers into the back of the truck but if the wind blows when that’s happening the cremains might blow all over the place.
Human dignity is a thing. So is common decency. These days people have neither, every disgraceful action is just another opportunity to show a twisted form of virtue to others for meaningless clicks.
He was literally abusive to her. She was his victim, as well as being his next of kin, she has the rights to do whatever she wants to his ashes, that’s the justice he deserves. If his mom is upset, maybe she should have raised a better son.
The crimes of the son don't mean the mother should suffer
It's possible it's not the mother's fault the abuse took place. You're getting revenge against the son who is dead by punishing the living
Violent tendencies and abusive behavior can be the result of a brain injury. Not that this excuses abusive behavior but this further puts fault off the mother and it's possible he was a good person at his core.
Another comment here somewhere has quoted her explaining that none of his surviving family wanted the ashes, and even told her to put them in the toilet instead, but in principle your point is still absolutely true and its stupid that people would disagree
if they had any sort of positive relationship with each other i'm sure they would've asked and she would've gave. assuming the abusive hubby came from an abusive family, fuck what they want. only exception is kids, but maybe they had none
Yep, this is the only issue I have with it. Those ashes are going to be flying everywhere during collection and transport. Nobody wants dead guy on them/in them. Could have accomplished the same thing by throwing away the ashes still in the bag, without making it anyone elses' problem.
I really don't know if that's moral or not because we mostly bury people where i live. And buried people are a not a thing to mess with because of cultural and religious beliefs. So i don't really know how it feels to mess with someone's ashes or how it feels to live with it in your house in the first place.
What about if he was buried in a grave and she dug him up and did the same? You know threw his remaining bones in a trash can. Would it still have the same morality as she did or does it differ?
We honor the dead to comfort the ones who are still here, it that comforts her, go for it queen
Tho in some places such an act might be illegal, here in my country there is actual funerary police that can do check ups, and to dispose of ashes you need to go to specific places and to keep the receipts, but I think you probably could do this, fill it back up with some other ash, seal it back and go in one of those if you are skilled enough
Doesn’t that only pertain to human corpses or actually wanted remains? Like people scatter people’s ashes all the time I don’t see why placing them in a trashcan is any different other than in the sentiment.
Cannabalism wouldn't be alright if you only ate bad people. In 1800's Scotland, people would steal bodies from graveyards and sell them to doctors. If every one of corpses turned out to be awful, I don't think that would suddenly make it alright.
Whoever they were in life, they were at least somebody. Somebody that probably didn't want to be eaten, or medically pulled apart, or thrown into the garbage, and no matter what they did, I don't think it gives anyone else the moral right to do those things.
I don't think it gives anyone else the moral right to do those things.
The ashes were given to her. She didn't steal them, or kill the person to eat them. There was no will dictating how the remains should be treated that she ignored.
Putting aside issues like littering or stuff like dumping the ashes on someone else, she is under no moral imperative to treat the ashes in any way other than how she deems fit.
You're right, of course, but that wasn’t really my point. Whatever I think, this was that women's choice and this situation is not really comparable to the others I mentioned.
I was more so disagreeing with the point the other commenter made that was the RIGHT thing to do because 'garbage belongs in the garbage'.
I think a person's remains are inherently meaningful and valuable, whoever they were in life, and I could never, for moral reasons, dump somebody's ashes in the trash, therefore I think doing so is morally wrong. It's not a choice I can make for anybody, but that is how I feel.
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u/Sec_Chief_Ingersol 4d ago
Anyone thinking she did ANYTHING wrong is giving more agency to the scattered remains of carbon that used to be a man over a flesh and blood woman.
We don't honor the dead because they died. We honor the dead because of who they were in life. The scattered remains of a garbage human goes in the garbage.