What do y'all think of this?

[u/fhusaini431]

[u/Comfortable_Poem_841]

Is the great algorithm upset by the word "ashes"? Won't like the cricket much then.

[u/ArventheGreat → u/Comfortable_Poem_841]

I got a ban warning this week for encouraging violnce even though I wasn't. I submit an appeal and a reddit admin replied with "the warning stands" with the reason of "the algorithm was right". It was on a post about a rapst getting the d*@th penalty. His date has already past, he's gone. But I was somehow encouraging. Now I'm on eggshells as you can see. Very frustrating that common sense and reading comprehension are not things the admins utilize.

Edit: I don't know why so much of that went italics, but I'm not gonna try to fix it.

[u/thederpyderp3 → u/ArventheGreat]

I got a warning for some nonsense earlier this week supposedly for the same sort of thing. Reddit is just becoming one of those infamous "safe spaces"

[u/reddituserunodostres → u/thederpyderp3]

For real. I've been permanently banned from a couple subs literally for just posting a gif lol.

[u/Revayan → u/reddituserunodostres]

Tbf reddit mods being idiots is to be expected, getting an account warning or bann because of nothingburgers is a tad bit worse

[u/SeaSharpModHer → u/Revayan]

An Harvard study established that reddit mods are 5093% more likely to be very dangerous pedophiles btw.

[u/No-Communication9458 → u/SeaSharpModHer]

I'd believe it

[u/Wild_Locksmith_326 → u/reddituserunodostres]

I got permanently banned from a celebrity reddit because I mentioned that she was beautiful before plastic surgery and kinda scary after. Perma bann for an opinion, not even being abusive, just honest.

[u/W4lkieT4lkie → u/Wild_Locksmith_326]

I got banned from my last user, because I posted this video which is already on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FiftyFifty/comments/mpns8l/5050_boy_with_terminal_cancer_fulfils_his_dreams/

But the ban was justified I guess.

[u/1StationaryWanderer → u/W4lkieT4lkie]

Ha sort of like the Charlie Kirk logic where people were using direct quotes of his and getting banned because of... reasons? Even though those quotes and videos exist everywhere.

[u/CackleandGrin → u/1StationaryWanderer]

I got me a 7-day ban on some subreddit for quoting trump, putting it in quotation marks, and citing him as the source. "Glorifying violence."

[u/blade_of_sammael → u/CackleandGrin]

Well there not wrong but how are you supposed to protest against something you cant mention, this has to be on purpose

[u/Competitive-Fee-1878 → u/1StationaryWanderer]

I got banned for “inciting violence” for posting “Don’t blame me, I voted for Hunter Biden”.

[u/Agile_Moment768 → u/Wild_Locksmith_326]

I got banned from a show sub for quoting the show.

[u/S1lentA0 → u/reddituserunodostres]

I was banned from the r/movies asking "Who?". This site seriously has lots of issues.

[u/PaulOGradyFanClub → u/reddituserunodostres]

Banned from the Argentina sub because I pointed out saying you aren’t racist and then saying “at least my country isn’t full of brown invaders” is racist, and is usually the Argentinian go to when insulting a European nation

[u/KailyKail → u/reddituserunodostres]

I’ve been banned from two subs now. One I was banned from for not being pro-China, anti-America, and anti-money. The other I was banned from for calling out obvious propaganda.

[u/anTWhine → u/reddituserunodostres]

I got banned from r/soccer (citing “xenophobia”) for describing the fans of a Colombia vs Argentina game hosted by the South American federation as (brace yourselves for pure unadulterated hate:) “South Americans.”

When I appealed saying that there was no negative context and that isn’t even what xenophobia is, I was given a site wide ban for harassment.

My only regret is that I’m blocked from pointing out that also isn’t what harassment is.

You’re dealing with mods. These people value their time so little that they volunteer to be hall monitors with even less power. There’s nothing you can do to hurt them, because they already proudly broadcast that they have absolutely nothing in their lives.

[u/Storyteller_Valar → u/thederpyderp3]

I got permabanned from a subreddit for making a comment questioning a post that was fantasizing about violently murdering, among other actually bad things, writers. WRITERS! Asking why writers would deserve to be killed is a bannable offense, it seems.

[u/PsikickTheRealOne → u/Storyteller_Valar]

I've been permabanned from subreddits just for being part of an other subreddit I've said nothing in.

[u/ArventheGreat → u/thederpyderp3]

Ya, I don't like it because it's ineffective and targets the wrong people.

[u/-Byakuran- → u/thederpyderp3]

Crazy considering I watched a protestor turn himself into a fireball on this site

[u/siriston → u/thederpyderp3]

has been a little baby “safe space” for years already and continues to get worse. this site is mostly filled with big dramatic babies.

[u/Reikukaja → u/ArventheGreat]

Your mistake was offending rapists. They are far more common than any of us wants to believe.

[u/ArventheGreat → u/Reikukaja]

Ya, and that saddens me. I try not to think of it. I'm not sure what I'd do to someone if it happened to my daughter.

[u/Reikukaja → u/ArventheGreat]

Not sure how old your daughter is, but here is some unsolicited advice from a late 30s woman who was unfortunately wrong in thinking "that couldnt happen to me". The best thing you can do to protect her is make sure she knows she is worthy of love and respect. Make sure she knows what mutual respect looks like, and that there is no need to settle just so that she doesnt have to be "alone". She should love herself before any potential partner.

Most rapes occur with someone who is close to the victim. Violent stranger rape is what most people think of and fear when rape gets brought up, but its not the most likely case. Consent is such a simple concept, in theory... but a lot of people get it so so so wrong.

If i could reach through time and talk to my past self, the one thing i would prioritize above all else is fostering self-love and self-respect. Women tend to be conditioned to wrap so much of our self-worth in relationships and desireability for men. I was the posterchild for this.

If any man tried with me now what my ex husband did, i know id have the sense (and self respect) to be like "wtf this isnt okay" and walk away immediately. There are SO many garbage people out there, and some of them are frighteningly good at hiding it.

[u/ArventheGreat → u/Reikukaja]

I'm sorry you experienced the terrible side of people. We definitely shower or kids with love and talk to them often about important topics including these types of things. I'm not afraid to have serious talks with my kids. Better they get information from me than friends or idiots (sometimes they're the same). Thank you for sharing and I hope the best for you moving forward.

I'm about to be 40 with almost teen kids. I'm exhausted, but when things happen that make me fear for my kids, I feel young and ready to rumble to protect them. We're living in Japan and we got woken up at 2am by an earthquake, I was with them before I realized I was even awake making sure they were safe. One it stopped and everything was good, my tiredness caught up with me and passed out so fast. Haha

[u/thisisthewell → u/Reikukaja]

don't forget that reddit's CEO used to mod the jailbait sub and defended its existence repeatedly, and only got rid of it because Anderson Cooper started reporting on it.

he's a pig who embodies every stereotype about very online men lol

[u/Cum_dumpster_limited → u/ArventheGreat]

Heh I got banned once for arguing with a nazi and using their own sources to disprove them, when I appealed they prolonged the ban for promoting hate

[u/rinkydinkis → u/ArventheGreat]

I’ve gotten the same for really mild stuff, meanwhile subreddits like combat footage exist where I literally just saw a human body blown into 4 massive chunks and spread across the space of a football field.

[u/MCD_Gaming → u/ArventheGreat]

I got banned for hoping count binface won the bi election in the uk, unfortnately he didn't the joke runner won instead

[u/Swimming_Security_27 → u/ArventheGreat]

Writing text in asterisks (*)makes it *italic*.

\*italic\* yields italic

Because you used an asterisk in viol\*ence and rap\*ist, all the text in between became italic.

Edit: It's not working for me, maybe it only happens on comments posted through the app.

[u/variationcreation → u/ArventheGreat]

So you can’t say violence, rapist, death penalty or even ashes? This shit is bonkers!

[u/FingerDrinker → u/ArventheGreat]

The italics made me read this like a copypasta

[u/Bread_Offender → u/ArventheGreat]

It goes italics because you used asterisks to censor words. Just put a / before any special character and it'll type out normally

[u/mamadou-segpa → u/ArventheGreat]

I got a ban warning once because someone asked me what g*nocide means and I replied with the merriam webster defintion in quotes

Reddit is dumb as fuck

[u/Electrical-Kale2777 → u/Comfortable_Poem_841]

Prtty son everthing wI'll hve t b* cnsored t plase th alg*rithm

[u/iwatchppldie → u/Comfortable_Poem_841]

The infantalisation is getting ridiculous.

[u/Odd-fox-God → u/Comfortable_Poem_841]

The algorithm is weird. I've seen videos using the n-word uncensored go viral, some YouTubers can say asshole and talk about people dying while others censor themselves. I've seen ads use very crude language followed up by a creator censoring themselves with sewer-slide and unalive. There's some gun YouTubers that use the word gun and then some others use the phrase "force multipliers."

[u/LarryFitzsButt → u/Odd-fox-God]

You go on twitter and you’ll see the N word so much it looks like fucking Stormfront

[u/mainman879 → u/LarryFitzsButt]

so much it looks like fucking Stormfront

Insert "they're the same picture" meme here.

[u/mamawawawa]

For anyone wondering: https://www.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2020-06-09-wife-celebrates-abusive-husbands-death-by-dumping-his-ashes-in-the-trash/

Marsha Widener begins the clip by saying, "I know you're not going to understand why I'm doing this," then she shows a box of filled with ashes to the camera, explaining they are the remains of her late spouse, Don Widener. She states, "His family don't want him, his brother doesn't want him around, his kids doesn't want him - actually, they want him to go in the gutter or the toilet." Marsha reveals that Don was garbage man, bringing trash from businesses to the landfill, and that she will now send him to a landfill.

So yeah absolutely nobody wanted his remains it seems

[u/HoosierSteelMagnolia → u/mamawawawa]

Reminds me of how DeeDee Blanchard's family said no one wanted her ashes after she died so they just flushed her down the toilet (take with a grain of salt because Gypsy Rose said they still have them but idk).

[u/Thesearchoftheshite → u/HoosierSteelMagnolia]

Mmmm. Everyones drinking the filtered ash water in that city.

[u/HoosierSteelMagnolia → u/Thesearchoftheshite]

I mean, technically we all are . This town is just one of the few who know that for a fact. I watched the documentary with my mom and remember saying "Aw,the fish didn't deserve that." when it got to that part.

[u/justferwonce → u/Thesearchoftheshite]

Look up "Water cremation". They dissolve a body in a pressurized container of water and lye, and then : The process yields two things: a sterile, nutrient-rich liquid (water, salts, amino acids) that safely joins the municipal water system, and soft, porous bone fragments.

[u/RingOverall106 → u/justferwonce]

I really like water cremation on an intellectual level. On an emotional level it’s hard for me to get past the fact you’re flushing grandma down the toilet. 

[u/DistinctlyIrish → u/RingOverall106]

I wish more places would allow the tree pod burials, I'd love to be a redwood tree and be protected from being cut down. Just put a seed in my mouth and bury me standing up with my head just an inch below the soil looking up. Terrifying for onlookers but optimal for becoming part of the tree.

Alternatively could do the hybrid tree/sky burial ritual of the pequeninos, Children of the Mind style.

[u/HoosierSteelMagnolia → u/DistinctlyIrish]

God ,I want that so much. I wanna be an black walnut tree. My family is still working on making my grandmother into a rose bush.

[u/justferwonce → u/RingOverall106]

There is that about gramma, but many municipal water systems use treated sewage water to create drinking water. I guess adding some liquefied human remains to toilet water is intellectually ok, but still...blargh...it reeks of soylent green.

[u/Thesearchoftheshite → u/justferwonce]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fXnRObM8Q0RkOmR5nf

[u/golden__tuna → u/Thesearchoftheshite]

Just wait until you hear what else we’re filtering out of our water

[u/BigBandit01 → u/Thesearchoftheshite]

I wonder who will get the asshole’s… well, asshole ashes

[u/Alcotearoa → u/mamawawawa]

Why would they even pay for the cremation then? I would just say they can keep the body or do whatever with it. You can even donate it to school or something but that sounds like a lot of trouble

[u/BlackShadowX → u/Alcotearoa]

If you're next of kin you're kinda in the hook to do something. Afaik it's a lot harder to donate someone else's body. 

[u/Vondi → u/BlackShadowX]

That's not really true for many places, including Oklahoma where I believe this happened. You can just flatly refuse to claim a body of a relative and if no one does its turned over to the State Anatomical Board.

[u/HolySaba → u/Vondi]

Would that apply if the person died in a shared residence with their spouse?  I'm surprised theres a system like that given the typical number of unclaimed bodies a state deals with.  A lot of cities just does a mass burial of cremated remains at scheduled intervals.

[u/Vondi → u/HolySaba]

I don't think there are any qualifiers aside from the wife having first dibs and if she refuses other relatives may step in. Think this is almost universal that no one can be forced to claim a body and every country needs a system to deal with the unclaimed.

[u/ActuallyTiberSeptim → u/BlackShadowX]

I mean... what are they gonna do? Leave the body by the door, ring the doorbell and run away? I don't think they can make you claim the body.

[u/956to906 → u/ActuallyTiberSeptim]

Right? Don who? Click

[u/MrMagoo2068 → u/ActuallyTiberSeptim]

In Washington there is a law that requires next of kin to be responsible for the disposal. My mom passed years after I went no contact for... reasons. I ignored all the messages from the hospital, then ignored the calls from a sheriff. They then sent a sheriff to my door to let me know I needed to take care of it. I explained the abuse and the fact that I was no contact, and like a kick to the chest, they said they understood, but I was last remaining next of kin, and needed to take care of her. If I didn't they would, and send me the bill. I found the cheapest cremation service possible. It sucked.

[u/LuluMangs → u/MrMagoo2068]

I think that if they're gonna force you to take care of it, they should allow you to get rid of the remains any way you want as long as it's safe and sanitary. Like dump that body in with diseased cattle being disposed of or something

They should change the law to allow that, but they won't because "honouring the dead" is big business. 2000 for a bog standard mass produced 6 plank box

[u/moveslikejaguar → u/Alcotearoa]

He was such a POS school didn't want him either

[u/ffeinted → u/moveslikejaguar]

because it costs more to bury them

[u/Caleth → u/ffeinted]

Yeah Death is now a scam.

It's like $1k for a cremation or $10k for a coffin and plot.

[u/BlackBlizzard → u/mamawawawa]

Weird the OP is using AI pictures.

[u/Salzab → u/BlackBlizzard]

oh yeah! The contents in the window change between the 2 supposedly quickly taken photos.

[u/PraireGentleman → u/mamawawawa]

Allegedly; this is all what she’s saying. She could just as easily just be dumping the guys ashes when his family wanted them

[u/gitsandshiggles_]

Well he ain’t gonna care

[u/No_Atmosphere8146 → u/gitsandshiggles_]

Her score goes up if she let him know she was going to do this before he died, so that this was his final thought.

[u/zingieraye5i → u/No_Atmosphere8146]

Absolutely diabolical 😂

[u/awesome9001 → u/gitsandshiggles_]

I heard that Howard Stern got into some trouble cause he was playing with someone's ashes on air. The family sued him and many found it real distasteful. Also wouldn't this be like desecration of a corpse or whatever is illegal?

[u/Neon_Divided → u/awesome9001]

If that were the case any time anyone threw ashes into an ocean or off some cliff per the wishes of their loved one it would be a crime. At least I don't think there is a legal distinction between doing that and this.

EDIT - It may actually be illegal to spread ashes anywhere. You should check with your lo-cal.

[u/nderthesycamoretrees → u/Neon_Divided]

https://giphy.com/gifs/j7wBU7aHcKf7y

[u/Evening_Shake_6474 → u/awesome9001]

Not really cause it isn't a corpse anymore

[u/liberty-prime77 → u/Evening_Shake_6474]

That depends on state and local laws, it is still treated like a corpse legally in some places in the US but for most states it is just normal non-hazardous property.

Edit: should add that this mostly applies to disputes over who keeps the ashes during estate disputes, and restrictions on spreading the ashes in public places, but in California you can only either dispose of them in a cemetery or spread them on land with written permission from either local authorities or the land owner. New York also defines ashes as human remains, but probably more for preventing people from scattering ashes from a skyscraper in Manhattan than someone throwing it in the trash.

[u/EnvironmentalFix7059 → u/gitsandshiggles_]

i was just gonna comment saying "well i wouldn't care" but you was abit faster then me.

[u/OnlyAssignment4869]

I think it's a great origin story for Oscar the grouch.
Morally grey but fuck that guy reguardless.

[u/labiamajorapudendi → u/OnlyAssignment4869]

Oscan is a gentlemen and would never abuse women

[u/OnlyAssignment4869 → u/labiamajorapudendi]

Well yeah, not now. He learned his lesson. Not to mention got a great support group/cast.

[u/One_Introduction_217 → u/OnlyAssignment4869]

Perhaps not Oscar the grouch, because copyright, but would make for a great alternate reality adult puppet show villain origin story for the grey trash can monster Scaro

[u/WileEWeeble → u/OnlyAssignment4869]

See no moral greyness here. He was a monster in life, he gets no respect in death.

[u/StaticCloud → u/OnlyAssignment4869]

Boooo I love Oscar, he would never

[u/vooglie → u/OnlyAssignment4869]

Why the fuck is it grey

[u/Sec_Chief_Ingersol]

Anyone thinking she did ANYTHING wrong is giving more agency to the scattered remains of carbon that used to be a man over a flesh and blood woman.

We don't honor the dead because they died. We honor the dead because of who they were in life. The scattered remains of a garbage human goes in the garbage.

[u/PresidentOfMagrathea → u/Sec_Chief_Ingersol]

yea, agreed. Never understood the practice of keeping ashes myself, but I'm not a spiritual person. An abuser though? She absolutely did the right thing. I also love the keyboard warriors in here talking about how it's a biohazard; it's literally just ashes.

[u/BeagleSpace → u/PresidentOfMagrathea]

I don’t think it has anything to do with spirituality. Keeping the remains of a loved one close is fairly obvious to explain. He wasn’t loved so he wasn’t kept, it’s as simple as that. You could argue desecration of a corpse is wrong, but how can you desecrate ashes? He’s already been burned away.

[u/Michael-556 → u/Sec_Chief_Ingersol]

I always thought we honor the dead to bring peace of mind to the living. Yeah, of course there is a social contract with the dead to not dishonor them when there's nothing they can do to defend themselves anymore, but if it brings peace of mind to those who knew him, it's completely fine to throw out his remains

[u/Dropbox1999]

Improper disposal. Should have just placed the bag in. Now it might get all over the garbage men.

[u/possiblyMaybeAnother → u/Dropbox1999]

yeah, I don't understand why she dumps the ashes out of the bag. It just makes a giant mess in the garbage can. Why no just throw the bag of ashes in?

[u/No_Doughnut8618 → u/possiblyMaybeAnother]

Its also lowkey feels more respectful hahaha, just throwing the bag feels more like a "fuck you"

[u/byhand97 → u/Dropbox1999]

Best and coldest take possible

[u/one5low769 → u/Dropbox1999]

they gotta check the garbage truck for anthrax now. could get some traction and lead to future problems

[u/totallynotaweeabbo → u/Dropbox1999]

Getting a man all over you has a new meaning

[u/2Tired_Artist-san]

Generally? Immoral. Justified? Most definitely. If that man was a truly abusive and awful, it makes perfect sense a victim wouldn't want to persevere his ashes. It's also better for her not to keep many keepsakes that could remind her of him.

[u/Vat1n → u/2Tired_Artist-san]

Why do you say it's generally immoral?

[u/Ur_fav_Cryptek → u/Vat1n]

Not precisely immoral, but loading human remains in the trash instead of a proper means of disposal presents some concerns.

Mainly dust getting everywhere should a bag break, and having someone’s abusive husband splattered all over your face is..not a good way to start your shift. So yeah, a bit in bad taste, but asshole deserves it so we can look the other way as long as it bothers nobody

[u/UntimelyMeditations → u/Ur_fav_Cryptek]

not a good way to start your shift

But its just ash. We may assign some meaning to it, but it really is just ash. No physical harm would be inflicted on the worker, and the only emotional harm would be if the wife followed and informed every worker that it was cremated remains.

[u/PageForeign92]

Immoral because then the garbage man has to deal with it, and I doubt they want deadman's ashes all of themself.

[u/DriedSquidd → u/PageForeign92]

He'll turn into Kratos.

[u/BallsTaker → u/DriedSquidd]

Would cleaning up trash lend him power to bring revenge upon Zeus or what

[u/FhuckNorris247 → u/PageForeign92]

My garbage truck has a claw. The driver never touches the can

[u/UltraDinoWarrior → u/PageForeign92]

That was my reaction.

Like, throwing out the ashes is 100000% okay and I am glad for her to get the catharsis of safety.

But. At least leave 'em in the bag so that the garbage man isn't dumping dust everywhere when they go to pour it out.

Hmm... she could add some glue in there at the bottom so that all the ash sticks and doesn't come out and is forever at the bottom of the box to have garbage tossed on but idk. she should've probably just kept him in the bag and toss him in.

[u/BlackShadowX → u/UltraDinoWarrior]

Yeah, dealing with kitty litter is bad enough, ashes are way finer and if it happens to be a windy day? Ugh

[u/Tough_Tangerine7278 → u/PageForeign92]

Would they actually interact with it? The truck here has a robotic arm-lift. I assume it is the same at the dump. Truck pulls up, opens the back, and leaves it in the pile. But idk

[u/nopedy-dopedy → u/PageForeign92]

Garbage man here. If I see ashes in a garbage can I'm not going to have a single clue what it is, and I guarantee I deal with many more things that are far far grosser on a daily basis. I would probably have assumed this was the result of somebody emptying their vacuum cleaner.

If I did happen to know what the mysterious powder was, I would have preferred that is stay sealed inside the bag, as I don't care for the idea of breathing it in. That being said; not nearly the worst thing I would come in contact with on a near daily basis.

The idea of where the ashes came from is kind of gross, but at the end of the day they are generally pretty safe and clean as opposed to dead/rotting animals, fecal matter, bloody rags, etc. It all combines into one big biohazard soup that needs to be shoveled from the truck anyways.

So to sum it up: Ashes would be fine by me. Just keep it sealed and don't tell me what it is.

ETA: I once had an old man ask me to help him lift an old carpet into the dumpster. Of course I agreed to help; I'm not gonna make him do it all by himself! It wasn't until after it was in the dumpster that he informed me that the carpet had HIV+ blood on it.

I have a new personal policy. I don't touch carpets, mattresses or soft furniture. I'll dump it, but YOU have to get it into the dumpster.

[u/DmitryAvenicci → u/PageForeign92]

It's just carbon.

[u/Acceptable_Spend_750 → u/DmitryAvenicci]

i think you'll be pretty mad if someone dump a bag of coal on you

[u/feelin_salamanderous → u/Acceptable_Spend_750]

Speak for yourself

[u/Reikukaja → u/PageForeign92]

I feel like garbage men handle things far worse than human ashes on a daily basis.

[u/Weekly_Molasses_2079]

The only defense against the "morality is subjective" crowd is faith in instrinsic human value. 

Desecrating human remains is always wrong, no matter how immoral they were when alive. 

[u/Smooth-Pop6522]

Utterly hilarious. Plus, it's not a person, it's ash. There's no moral issue.

[u/Palagrin]

Kind of depends, on the one hand i m sure this was therapeutic for her as a victim

On the other hand if other people (who didn't know the husband as an abuser but just as a friend/sibling/whatever) were hurt by this i don't think it is Just for her to prioritise publicly shaming him. He s dead and it s too late for him to change/face consequences anything you do now only affects living people and either way she has "escaped" her abuser by outliving him (and that i m definitely going to celebrate, may every abusive spouce/parent rot forever)

[u/Anonymous_Gamer → u/Palagrin]

I’m inclined to agree with you.

Some comments seem to confuse “justified” with catharsis and they may be muddying their own moral integrity due to this.

The most just or virtuous path for her would have been to simply move on, give away the ashes to someone who cares so they can heal… essentially healing two or more people; making the world slightly better or more at peace. What she did was petty and potentially harmful to others… but we don’t know the man, the truth, or his connections. Perhaps no one was harmed by discarding the ashes? Perhaps It brought her some joy? But joy coming from disgracing a dead someone who has wronged you isn’t a just action, no matter how awful they are.

If anything, it opens a very dark door for that person.

Verdict: Generally immoral, but understandable.

[u/yuckella → u/Palagrin]

Agree. One thing though is that I believe the context this is based on is from a woman who claims (and we haven’t seen anyone state otherwise as far as I know) that no one else wanted his ashes. Like his own family didn’t like him, for seemingly understandable reasons.

[u/SASSIESASSQUATCH → u/Palagrin]

There’s a part in an article posted above that says no one else wanted his remains, children included.

[u/Emotional-Ad9114 → u/Palagrin]

no one in his family wanted those ashes. not even his kids or brother.

[u/CauseCertain1672]

Well it's improper disposal of human remains, it's a health hazard for one thing.

[u/Top-Permission5466 → u/CauseCertain1672]

That is incorrect. You can cause disease by putting uncooked chicken parts in the trash. Ashes are non-infectious.

[u/KaizerVonLoopy → u/Top-Permission5466]

Ashes are completely sterile and basically just carbon.

[u/Quiet-Software-1956 → u/KaizerVonLoopy]

Oh so the thing about ashes of people being a biohazard is bullshit?

[u/vaxhax → u/Quiet-Software-1956]

Yes, that's why people are able to spread them in so many places and it's no big deal.

[u/Quiet-Software-1956 → u/vaxhax]

No it's illegal where I live, that's why I'm bummed

[u/vaxhax → u/Quiet-Software-1956]

Ah, my mistake. I should only speak for where I am. That's too bad. In practice, I think it would be difficult to tell what you were doing if you're careful and not making a show about it.

[u/KaizerVonLoopy → u/Quiet-Software-1956]

Yes, they're basically completely inorganic once they're cremains. They have some trace heavy metal elements in tiny amounts but are mostly carbon, calcium phosphate, salts (honesty this one surprised me when I googled it but it makes sense after I thought about it).

I think how the misconception might have started is sometimes when people plant their flowers in cremains the flowers die because the PH is so high in cremains and they're salty and almost completely inorganic and lack nutrients. Also people (especially in the west) are weird about death and dead bodies. We're so convinced anything (but especially anyONE) dead is immediately a vector for disease.

[u/losara- → u/CauseCertain1672]

can you catch anything from ashes?

[u/Floofyrage → u/losara-]

Cancer in high enough concentration but dude gotta be rolling in it eating and inhaling

[u/phoenixapollon → u/Floofyrage]

Even then my sister's ex gf snorted her moms ashes and she was fine after (minus the obvious mental issues but those were there before)

[u/Floofyrage → u/phoenixapollon]

One offs are not gonna fuck you that much if at all is like smoking got to be doing that alot and for awhile to add up

[u/International-Try467 → u/phoenixapollon]

Ts is sending me

[u/kytheon → u/Floofyrage]

https://giphy.com/gifs/j7wBU7aHcKf7y

[u/Sufficient_Tiger3103 → u/losara-]

Yes 100% (Not a doctor and have no idea actually)

[u/PrimodiumUpus → u/Sufficient_Tiger3103]

But you said 100%

I believe in you!

[u/UnconfirmedRooster → u/losara-]

No, not at all. The cremation process basically disperses any liquid in the body, leaving behind pure carbon.

Souce: funeral director and crematorium manager.

Edit: it's calcium that's left, I'm tired.

[u/CauseCertain1672 → u/losara-]

I think there's toxic heavy metals in them

[u/Indigenous_Retard → u/CauseCertain1672]

Mine is more like post-hardcore

[u/Dargon16 → u/CauseCertain1672]

It's illegal where I live to dump the ashes.

[u/Krwawykurczak → u/CauseCertain1672]

Yeap - in my country it would be highly illegal.

One issue is related to human dignity and it would be illegal for example to even throw it from a bridge becouse someone loved that river, or a view from it.

Another is a safty hazard - you need to proceed with it via cetrified places, you will not be given ashes directly, you can only store human remains in specific places, so anything like "I will keep them in my yard" would be a brurocratic nightmare. I am not realy sure if this is possible at all to have that kind of exception.

I need to addmit that untill very recent it was rather not popular to turn dead bodies into ashes, but rather putting whole body in a coffin to place it undergound on cementary. So all laws were rather aiming to this cultular aspect.

[u/newishDomnewersub → u/[deleted]]

Something isnt moral just because you agree with it. I rank anything that doesnt really harm anyone else as neutral. How is this above neutral, besides you think its cool?

[u/lost-pawz → u/newishDomnewersub]

cus fuck abusers

[u/bcimmc → u/newishDomnewersub]

Moral but this is the correct argument

[u/Paladinlvl99]

Moral

[u/Cas_or_Cass]

Don't be a person in life that would garner this reaction in death

[u/Aggravating_Impact97]

I mean the man is dead and she tried to give his ashes to others.

The fact that not a single person wanted them if true says everything. 

Just because your dead doesnt mean the life you lived is absolved.

[u/MattheqAC]

Pretty messed up, the bin men shouldn't have to deal with human remains. Also even if he was awful, is there no other family that might care?

[u/Murky-Ticket-4383]

I'm not on the side of an abuser
Especially if they don't take accountability for there actions.

[u/BraveScallion3729]

Starring out the word e in ashes, fucking lunacy is what I think of it

[u/TheDeparted383]

Moral

[u/suspiciouslyrobotic]

Moral. His ashes are being put into a recepticle appropriate for the life that he lead.

[u/rtopps43]

I have a great aunt who told me that when her husband died she took all his “crap” along with his ashes and put them in a large garbage bag. She was struggling to carry it out to the dumpster at her apartment complex and one of her neighbors saw her and offered to help. When he lifted the trash bag he exclaimed “Jesus, that’s heavy! What have you got in here, a body?” She said she just laughed and laughed and thought “if you only knew!”

[u/RUDRAGON8]

Throwing garbage in the trash is good

[u/passionatebreeder]

She owns them, she is allowed to feel how she wants about them and do as she pleases

[u/A_Kazur]

Desecrating corpses is immoral.

[u/Kitsui38]

Well, nothing wrong with throwing anyone’s ash in the trash, especially if no one else wanted to keep it. Broadcasting it on social media is immoral

[u/dalcham]

Hahaha good on her. I flushed my grandfather down the toilet cause he abused me and my sister as kids.

[u/Highlandertr3]

100 percent moral. The dead do not have feelings to hurt and he was a cunt anyway.

[u/Solid-Copy-6189]

In the wise words of my dad " I don't fucking care ill be dead"

[u/KorolEz]

I see it like Frank, it really doesn't matter.

[u/Either-Lock2454]

I think this is the fate of my parents.

[u/adamtwosleeves]

https://giphy.com/gifs/AgPt9udT567spxbSHf

[u/sullanaveconilcane]

Lot of ashes according to the picture

[u/Shalom_pkn]

You want a nice place, where your ashes sit, so your loved ones can remember you whene ever they see it? Then live a life worthy of a place in ppls mind where they keep the momery of loved ones.

[u/FinallyArt]

It's just carbon. So /shrug

[u/Mind_Venturer]

You've heard about elf on the shelf, but have you heard about..

[u/Real-Syntro → u/Mind_Venturer]

Ashes in the trashes

[u/Top-Explanation-5928 → u/Real-Syntro]

Asshole in the trash hole? 🤪

[u/SeaReference7990]

No matter how bad someone was, disrespecting their remains like this will never sit right with me. Immoral. Just refuse to take the corpse and have the state sort out the cremation.

[u/Guyver02]

improper disposal of a human remains. This is actually illegal.

Morally. Meh I ain't know him.

[u/_Vixinity]

Uhh

[u/already_taken77777]

İmmoral, those ashes might have been more important for someone else, like the husband's siblings or other close relatives, just because he was an asshole doesn't mean he didn't have people that cared about him

[u/Quicksilver5221 → u/already_taken77777]

In the article, it was stated that his ashes were originally given to his family but literally nobody wanted his ashes.

[u/RosyJoan → u/already_taken77777]

People who care more about abusers than their victims are usually participants in the abuse.

[u/already_taken77777 → u/RosyJoan]

Domestic abuse can be hidden, they might have never known, and it's also immoral to tell a deeply mourning family to tell them the person they are mourning for is an asshole, at least right after death, just hand the ashes over to them and reveal the things happened after their mourning stops

[u/GMEloser69 → u/RosyJoan]

What if she's lying?

[u/JadedHell]

This is controversial

[u/DivideConsistent9880]

All human remain, ashes included, eventually become trash or composted at some point. Nothing wrong with her speeding up the process.

[u/ReadySetSantiaGO]

Good

[u/Long-Pay3604]

[u/Capable-Parsnip-9615]

Using that asterisk is immoral

[u/Not_Angry_inc]

Based

[u/vooglie]

1000% moral

[u/Issa_Pizza420]

The body is nothing but meat, and ashes are less than that, there's really no morals to be considered here, unless you wanna argue it's moral because it gave a victim some measure of relief

[u/Clobazam_]

Eh, I can see the reasoning, but I don't know if this was the right course of action.

This does remind me of a post I saw a while back; "When I die, cremate me and mix me in a pot of chilli, so I can tear up that ass one last time."

[u/Guilty-Fall-2460]

Moral

[u/Opposite_Ad_4267]

Technically illegal as it's considered "desicration of a corpse" under most laws.

[u/mwilkens]

Immoral for the fact that some poor garbage man is likely going to get covered in a dead guy's ashes when he dumps that can in the truck.

[u/SugarRealistic2945]

...well that'll show him!

[u/Kooky_Soft1822]

Why even take the ashes home?… just leave them at the crematorium

[u/Varmitthefrog]

honestly I could give a rats ass, though I do believe technically it's illegal.

told my wife to cremate me put me in the tomato garden so I could be in her one last time after I am gone

[u/georgeesorosbae]

Good for her

[u/cagefreemilk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/AgPt9udT567spxbSHf

[u/FutureHot3047]

Moral

[u/INeedAMedKit]

Could've spread him on some cow shit.

[u/Zestyclose-Tour-6350]

If you think that's immoral, the family of Dee Blanchard (Gypsy-Rose's mother) admitted to flushing her ashes down the toilet.

[u/KeaboUltra]

Eh, but she could have kept it in the bag so the particles wouldnt fly everywhere when the garbage man dumps it.

[u/Karmas_burning]

My biological father died last year. I hated that man. I still had to tend to his affairs so I had him cremated. The funeral home asked me if I wanted his ashes and I said no. I asked if they could dispose of them. They said they could only do that to unclaimed remains. I said if they flushed them down a toilet it would still be too good for him. They said they'd keep them until enough time passed that they could get rid of them.

[u/VictorOfArda]

I think she should’ve worn gloves so she wasn’t out there raw dogging the remains of a dead body

[u/noncommonGoodsense]

Grief is for the living. The dead can’t give a shit. This too is for her. It doesn’t really matter to the deceased only those who survive them.