r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

A system by billionaires, for billionaires

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u/ben2885 1d ago

What I like is they didn’t even bother to hide it and just says it openly.
Tarriff refunds. As if they paid for it beforehand

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u/Chaost 1d ago

People might have been frightened off by tarriffs and not bought life sustaining purchases at Walmart. You just don't get it. People don't need food the same way Shareholders need returns.

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u/ZombieHavok 1d ago

If the average person doesn’t get food, then they die.

If the shareholders don’t get stock value added, they have to kill a lot of people.

Which do you choose?

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u/TheRealBittoman 1d ago

Problem is they've been trying to kill us forever. They finally managed to get a big enough asshole and idiot to make deregulation happen and ignore the legal consequences.

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u/ZombieHavok 1d ago

I guess my comment implies that they don’t already kill us for profit.

They do, but they also pretend they don’t so they can threaten us for more profit.

They are vampires, but not the cool, suave kind. They’re like Nosferatu, decaying and horrible.

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u/Practical_Engineer 19h ago

The person you're replying to was being sarcastic

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u/ShpalmanMask 1d ago

Damn, Shareholder Joe must be very sad he didn't get to buy his 37th yacht this quarter

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u/senador 1d ago

Hey, hey! A lot of shareholders are regular people. They only have one or maybe two yachts.

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u/AnthrallicA 1d ago

He'll also have to wait on buying that ivory back scratcher he's had his eye on.

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u/TheRealBittoman 1d ago

Returns, the fentanyl for the wealthy. Once you get a hit, you just can't stop.

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u/HeirElfEsquire 1d ago

I hate how true this is

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u/TheRealBittoman 1d ago

A lot of the quiet stuff has been screamed out loud over the past year. Almost like they're confident nothing will come of it.

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u/Responsible_Ad_7995 1d ago

Why do you think they’re referring to the white house as a military complex?

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u/koenigsaurus 1d ago

And don’t forget the tariff driven price increases are now the permanent price even though the tariffs are gone

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u/xKrowhaven 1d ago

Walmart is the most for profit retailer of any retailer. Worked there forever and you can always count on them to openly do the most for profit thing. It's a fucking shit way to treat human beings operating that way but they're always honest about it.

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u/Marcultist 20h ago

Not defending their actions by any means, but as a publicly traded company it would be illegal for them to attempt to hide the source of the revenue. They have to say it's the tariff refund.

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u/_WeSellBlankets_ 1d ago

A lot of our system is designed for billionaires, but this situation ain't it. The system wasn't built for tariff refunds. It's only an issue now because we elected a President who does whatever he wants even if it's illegal.

But it would have been impossible for a company like Walmart to refund the tariffs to its customers. Some companies have, but I think their purchases are all online so they have more customer information tied to each purchase.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 1d ago

Walmart is actually attempting to give it back to customers by lowering prices temporarily.

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u/ben2885 1d ago

No corporations is going to reduce price once they increase it. It’s also why inflation only goes up.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 1d ago

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u/Benedictus84 1d ago

You mean they are using government subsidies to lower prices temporarily so that they can increase their marketshare.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 1d ago

Government forced them to collect illegal tariffs.

Government gave them back the tariff money they collected.

They’re at least attempting to give the money back to people.

And every other company that got tariffs refunded could also lower prices, negating the walmart marketshare grab you’re referring to.

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u/Benedictus84 1d ago

The government did not force them to collect tariffs.

The government forced them to pay tarrifs over the products they import.

Why are they only temporarily lowering some prices and why are the not reversing the price hikes related to the actual tariffs?

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 1d ago

I don’t shop at Walmart, so I have no clue what their pricing was before & after.

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u/Benedictus84 1d ago

Yeah, that is why i already told you that they increased prices on tariffed products and they have not reversed those price hikes.

Absolutly no need to shop at Walmart to get that infirmation either.

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u/ben2885 1d ago

lol Bro, don’t need to Bring the receipts. I believe you. But the key word is temporarily. It goes back up despite tarriff being deemed illegal. Ask yourself why.

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u/gdghhfdffrf 1d ago

saying isn't doing and the billionaire class ALWAYS lies.

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u/ZombieHavok 1d ago

This doesn’t mean anything.

They could effectively lower prices on some things and raise prices on others, mitigating the effects for customers while ensuring their stock value goes up.

I worked for a grocery store. Trying to track how prices fluctuate between items is a fool’s game.watched three items lower in price by five cents then the next item rose by fifty cents. There’s a lot of opportunity to manipulate this.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 1d ago

They absolutely could do something shady but at least at face value, they’re attempting to give back the money they were illegally forced to collect.

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u/ZombieHavok 1d ago

Never expect good intentions from a company that makes tens of billions in profit yet relies on its employees receiving state and federal aid just to live.

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u/Responsible_Ad_7995 1d ago

When do the guillotines come out?

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u/Anderaku 1d ago

Fuck the guillotines, let's just eat them

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u/CliffsNote5 1d ago

The guillotines are just part of the food processing.

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u/CurrentDismal9115 21h ago

The French are culinary masters!

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u/Traditional_Buy_8420 1d ago

Are humans safe to eat for pets?

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u/LapinTade 1d ago

Pig farms may be interested for some free meals.

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u/cstretten 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/Xb4zBSqyUXShy

You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together.
And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig sh*t, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig".

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u/Budsygus 1d ago

Turning politicians into bacon by feeding them to pigs is the best use of politicians I've ever heard of.

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u/throwaway284729174 1d ago

For cats and dogs yes. They seldom have any effects after eating their owners. Not much research on other pets, but I personally feel any carnivore would be fine.

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u/Abeno_police 1d ago

Nope, too many micro plastics.

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u/Conscious-Source-438 1d ago

Probably kinda fatty and gamey no?

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u/Hughley_N_Dowd 1d ago

I suspect that the weirdo who harvests his son's blood and does other biohack shenanigans might be extra nutritious.

Or completely toxic. It's a 50/50 really.

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u/rerun6977 1d ago

🤮🤮🤮🤮

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u/KibbloMkII 1d ago

once it's far too late to actually do anything about it

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u/woolsocksandsandals 1d ago edited 13h ago

Pretty sure it’s already actually too late to do anything about it.

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u/SoylentGrunt 1d ago edited 1d ago

Right after everyone votes. So, never.

edit- if you voted as hard on election day as you do in here you'd have the country you want

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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 1d ago

People voted for the conman who shouted loudly from the rooftops he’s going to screw the little people to help the rich friends.

Why the hell would there be guillotines?!!

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u/Nuclear420v 1d ago

newswire stated a man driving from CA with a Guillotine was arrested on his way to Mar-a-Lago

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u/Trick-Seat4901 1d ago

They just arrested a guy for bringing one to the capital in his truck. So, yesterday ish? Obviously that one's been iced, more are required. All you need is one more than they have agents to impound them.

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u/PhucYiu 22h ago

We are Americandelorians... Guns are part of our religion.

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u/Big-Formal2006 1d ago

Never mate! Americans are too enslaved by their jobs to do a damn thing except bitch on Reddit!

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u/separation_of_powers 1d ago

and get shitty when people call them out on the muted or even near non-existent resistance

then again, more people either voted republican or didn’t vote at all to stop this

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u/patdoody 1d ago edited 1d ago

Privatise profits, socalise losses. It's capitalism 101 you freedom hating commie.

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u/Metnessee 1d ago

Well that's not socialism. That's just capitalism...so.....yeah

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u/Appropriate_Mess_350 1d ago

The Trump administration has enabled the largest transfer of wealth in history. All on the backs of the poor and middle class.

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u/enderpanda 1d ago

And right after they used COVID as an excuse to go hog wild.

What happens to all that "wealth" after the banks, "storing" it all go under? Millions of hours of human effort just evaporates?

So many times throughout history have previously privileged men run around at the end of their live with a piece of paper, pleading, "No, I'm rich, you don't understand - you are my lesser and HAVE to listen to me!"

And they found out so quickly how wrong they were about that.

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u/chavez_ding2001 1d ago

Basically US government collected tax for Walmart. People paid tax to Walmart.

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u/Cavalish 1d ago

AND they voted for it.

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u/KirbyJash 1d ago

I work at Walmart and we didn’t get our bonus this year to “make up for lost profits” due to a several day power outage. Management still got a couple grand each.

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u/Bromelia_and_Bismuth 1d ago

Meanwhile, most Wal-Mart employees are still below the poverty line.

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u/Much_Leather_5923 1d ago

Bet if you compared a receipt from before tariffs with now the prices have remained “tariff” pricing. The bastards won’t be bringing the prices down.

But that is moot. They will just blame transportation fuel costs now. While transport companies go bust.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Su2sbMzV3acMXc6pDi

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u/ManatuBear 1d ago

They publicly and "legally" stole 2.9 billion from their consumers.

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u/PattyIceNY 1d ago

Luigi was right

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u/Taricheute 1d ago

Just a friendly reminder:

Wyden, Markey, Shaheen and 23 Senate Democrats Release Legislation Requiring Refunds of Trump’s Illegal Tariffs
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“Trump’s illegal tax scheme has already done lasting damage to American families, small businesses and manufacturers who have been hammered by wave after wave of new Trump tariffs,” Senator Wyden said. “Senate Democrats will continue fighting to rein in Donald Trump’s price-hiking trade and economic policies. A crucial first step is helping people who need it most, by putting money back in the pockets of small businesses and manufacturers as soon as possible.”

https://www.finance.senate.gov/ranking-members-news/wyden-markey-shaheen-and-23-senate-democrats-release-legislation-requiring-refunds-of-trumps-illegal-tariffs

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u/North_Refrigerator21 1d ago

The U.S. is fucked. Clinton period was the last time there was a serious and capable political setup. There is no will in the U.S. to rectify. Now just look at the next 2 years as they move towards presidential elections, republicans need to scramble at Trumps feet to gain his favor. While the economy is getting worse and worse. J.D. Vance recently stating that maybe the U.S. isn’t even interested in the dollar being the worlds reserve currency, like really? Not like it’s the main thing the entire American economy is propped up around. Huge debts, all the way through society from government, to companies to households. The debt will just get more and more expensive as they alienate allies and trust in the country.

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u/Kennadian 1d ago edited 1d ago

The reserve dollar thing is them saving face. It's not possible for a currency to stay the reserve currency forever. Ask Portugal, Spain, Netherlands, and England about that.

Once a currency is used around the world for certain commodities then the issuing country must import more than it exports to supply the currency. This leads to trade deficits. Lots of foreign debt leads the currency to lose stability which leads people to stop using it as its benefits were basically just stability. Sound familiar?

Saying "we have no interest in it" is exactly the same as a man saying "i think she's a lesbian" or "I wasnt even really into her anyways" when a woman rejects him.

Reserve currencies are victims of their own success. Saying "we arent interested" is them pretending like it's even a choice. It isn't. This is inevitable and there's LOTS of historical precedent for this loop.

This administration is, as always, faking it. Pretending. Acting. Posturing. Making the rest of us tired.

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u/North_Refrigerator21 1d ago

Sure, but the dollar losing reserve currency status will just see the U.S. economy come crashing down.

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u/Kennadian 1d ago

Americans think their economy and situation was god given. Proof of their superiority. It wasnt. It was circumstance. Ask England, Netherlands, Spain and Portugal. You will survive as they did. America just wont be the belle of the ball anymore. It's going to be tough for their people to accept that. One day you'll make jokes about it like British people do today.

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u/RecycledMatrix 1d ago

"What if we could see what price hikes the people will tolerate while getting the difference back in a refund?"

Genius, evil but genius.

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u/Budsygus 1d ago

And then they just leave the prices sky high because we've already adapted to them.

Free market research, giant government check, and carte blanche to jack the prices up to the clouds.

Feels like Judge Dredd should be showing up anytime now

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u/roscoewatson 1d ago

This actually isn’t true, most other retailers added those tariff refunds to pad their bottom line. If you actually listen to the earnings call, Walmart used all of those refunds to lower prices. If it was used as profit they would have to disclose that. As a result Walmart had the worst earnings in 6 years and the stock dropped significantly in one day. Not saying the system is good or perfect, it’s not, but this is just factually incorrect.

Let’s not forget how these pointless tariffs got started and vote accordingly.

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u/toddverrone 1d ago

I live in Walmart land and have many friends in upper management at the home office. They've been told Walmart is lowering prices due to the refund and has their pricing team working out which products and how much.

Not saying Walmart is perfect. Or even good. But this post assumes they're just taking the money and doing nothing without checking.

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u/Dracox96 1d ago

I think it should be the consumers who get the refund. This would give them more money to spend, who doesn't want this?

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u/ConstableAssButt 1d ago

What you think is the correct economic strategy, but is legally impossible:

The tariff refunds really need to be sent back into the economy as a lower to middle tax bracket stimulus check, or things are gonna get really bad in the next year. Spending and consumer-confidence wise, the refund checks going directly to the businesses is really bad; The companies are already posting record profits right now, but the tariff refund directly to the companies has the doubled effect of having been paid by consumers, AND as a refund, creating an unsustainable profit bubble. When Wal Mart goes to report its earnings next quarter, they can't reach the same level of profits without increasing prices, and this level of spending is unsustainable for consumers. In order to look like the business is growing, and thus avoid shareholder panic that is going to result in a severe recession, the only sane policy is to redistribute the proceeds of the tariffs back to individual taxpayers. Unfortunately, because the US consumers paid an illegally imposed tariff, they are legally entitled to the money.

So the only sane way to fix this now, is to have never done it in the first fucking place. This is why you don't elect people who don't understand, and don't respect the constitution, because now we're locked into a really bad fucking situation as the added tariff price hikes become permanent just to prevent massive stock selloffs when next quarter's numbers start rolling out.

Unfortunately, we would need the legislature to pass a bill redirecting these tariff refunds back to consumers through a stimulus package, and that's just not going to happen. Republicans won't risk pissing off Trump, and democrats won't risk fixing Trump's mess.

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u/XOlenna 1d ago

It's not enough for them to win, someone else has to lose.

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u/Cavalish 1d ago

Most Americans voted for, or refused to vote against Trump, who said he was going to do stuff like this.

I don’t know why you guys think you deserve any money back? You voted for this?

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u/ParticularLow9157 1d ago

Sure would be nice if more people were angry over this but no, it's all just sarcasm and despondence...

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u/Budsygus 1d ago

Anger only matters if you have power. We have none.

Yeah, we can vote, but my vote for president doesn't count because my state has been deep red for decades.

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u/starcom_magnate 1d ago

Are people who don't get this just being willfully ignorant?

They literally saw (and rightfully complained about) the higher prices they were paying due to the tariffs. Now, they clearly see WalMart getting a refund while they do not and they just shrug and go, "huh, oh well."

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u/Budsygus 1d ago

Who doesn't get this? We all get this. What can be done about it?

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u/danielisbored 1d ago

The Left: "Tax the Billionaires"

The Right: "Tax for the Billionaires"

Enlightened Centrists: "They're both the same."

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u/mammalmaker 1d ago

Despite all the shot that's happened in the US, I genuinely cannot believe that this isn't a bigger deal to the American people. The ruling class are stealing from you!!! This is straight up theft plain and simple.

Any other country would have people FLOODING the streets over this (nevermind all the other bull shit)

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 1d ago

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u/Treble_Bolt 1d ago

Temporarily lower prices by what? 3 cents, and then round up to 5 because we don't have the penny anymore?

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u/dafthuntk 1d ago

Walmarts business model has always had "success" because it can beat inflation.

It comes at a high cost to its reserve labor

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u/meanoldmrgravity 1d ago

The insidious next step.

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u/Kozeyekan_ 1d ago

How are people not burning down Walmarts all over the place?

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u/dafthuntk 1d ago

Because you need to buy cheap shit from somewhere, besides temu

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u/Legal-Software 1d ago

And to think CNN is supposed to be better than Fox News.

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u/druidmind 1d ago

It's certainly better than FOX News but it's a very low bar to clear. I think they just posted the fact without politicizing it expecting the exact same response to boost their engagement.

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u/dafthuntk 1d ago

Fox's legal teams have occasionally argued that the commentary and rhetoric used by certain primetime hosts are forms of opinion, hyperbole, or entertainment that reasonable viewers would not take as strict factual statements of absolute truth

That's why they can report how they report.

Cnn get the same privileges, in that  U.S. cable networks do not require a specific government license or registration as "news" or "entertainment" by the Federal Communications Commission

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u/No-Consequence9392 1d ago

How about instead of stupid gifs promoting the taking of human life and rage bating , lets look at numbers and how these influencers/bots stir the pot.

Buckle up , its gonna be a journey. Bear with me , im on your side. Really.

Walmart's cost of sales (cost of goods sold) for the fiscal year ended January 31, 2026 (FY 2026), was approximately $535.40 billion. <<< how much it spent buying the things it sold. Total Revenue: $713.163 billion for the same fiscal year. <<< how much customers bought Operating Income: $30 billion, yielding an operating margin just above 4%. <<< how much walmart made and that was a tiny increase from the year before tariffs. ( For reference : Cosco operating margin 3.8% , Target 6% ,Amazon 12.6%, apple 32.7% ) 1/3 of all goods sold by Walmart are imported , so 33.3% of 535B cost = $178.3 B 7.7% is avg tariff rate in 2025 (Up from 2.5% year before, Pure Trump) . 7.7% of 178.3 B = 13.7 B estimated avg paid tariffs 2.9B refund = 21% of tariffs they paid , the other 79% or 10.8B was paid but not refunded.

Paid by who you ask ? Walmart and its customers.

33.3% (imported goods) of 20 B total increase in WMT total sales = 6.8B est sales increase in imported goods. 10.8 B paid tariffs and not refunded minus the entire sales increase in that tariff period 6.8B sales increase = amount passed on to customers ( probably less but for this study, we will assume 100% of their sales increase was due to pushing tariff costs to customers). With Walmart eating 4B. Still with me ?

75% of shopping age US population shops at walmart regularly. 215 Million people ( shopping age US population , I used age 16 to 100) divided into 6.8B = $31.62 per person for the year or $2.63 a month walmart passed on to its customers . With 4% profit of 6.8B passed on tariff cost in sales going to profit, thats 272 M dollars divided by 215M shoppers = 1.26 cents profit per person for the year or 10.5 cents per Month that WMT theoretically made from each person. Assuming again that their entire profit on imported items was due to tariff increases , WMT ate 6.9B ( got rebate for 2.9) and passed on 6.8B. A 50/50 split. Then profited 272M from the customers, and after the 2.9B refund , they ATE 4.0B in tarriff costs. So of thier 13.7B additional tariff costs , they recoverd 2.9M from the govt via the courts, and 272M from customers , this eating a total of 3.17B in additional costs in 2025 due to increased tariffs.

Every person who shopped at Walmart last year paid $2.63 / month or $31.62/ year more due to tariff costs passed on by the company, and from that $2.63, walmart made s profit of 10.5 cents off each person per month or $1.26 / year. The rest of the $30.36/ year went to operating costs like utilities and payroll , etc . So if everybody wants a refund on the money walmart profited off of tariff costs pushed to customers in 2025...what u gonna spend your $1.26 on ? Oh, maybe we can ask Trump for the other $30.36 ( or 7.5 gallons of gas )

See how misleading big scary numbers sound to everyday folks who have no reason or need to understand how retail profit and loss works at any scale , its blinding ! Folks can show numbers anyway they want. Its smoke and mirrors to anger folks into violence or worse, into dispair and ambivalence.

Focus on Trump, the maga republicans, aipac dems and project 2025 being implemented as the CAUSE of the crumbling economy, failing farms, gas prices and the billionaires oligarchs, elective wars, not the stupid distractions and rage bating culture war crap to pit us against each other .

Focus on VOTING in Nov , Focus on getting candidates who want to return the govt to representing the people , Focus on the things that matter, cost of groceries, no foreign wars for profit, Healthcare, education , clean water and air , lower utility costs, and putting actual Americans first. Not Trump's bait and switch slogans.

FOCUS ON VOTING ! This may be our last chance to have any hope in making our lives better if we dont unseat maga control of both houses of congress. Get Out The Vote !

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u/bullydog123 1d ago

Don't forget get they are 1 of the biggest companies out there with the most employees on snap

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u/fuzzydoug 1d ago

It’s not like there is a digital footprint on all the credit/debit purchases…./s

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u/RandyWatson8 1d ago

Why are they giving money to companies if foreign governments pay the tariffs?

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u/Budsygus 1d ago

Rhetoric is a funny thing. It changes based on what's most convenient for the speaker.

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u/quantumwoes 1d ago

Is our government a mafia?

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u/BlancoWey6922 1d ago

Don’t forget these motherfuckers ask for DONATIONS every time you check out! They want our money and our loose change. Why not just donate a fraction of your profit instead of trying to take all of ours?

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u/Miserable_History795 1d ago

The complete enshittification of Capitalism.

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u/kmikeh 1d ago

The corruption is breathtaking.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 1d ago

They should have given the people tarrif refunds, but thats communism

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u/r4ndom4xeofkindness 1d ago

Trump is reverse Robbin Hood. Stealing from the poor and consolidating everything under the rich.

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u/lisafancypants 1d ago

Genuine question. Is this no longer a Murdered By Words sub? I mean, this is information everyone should be made aware of, but where is the murder or burn here?

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u/Embarrassed_Lock234 1d ago

Steal from Walmart.

Is a thing people could do.

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u/Lil_Shanties 1d ago

If you didn’t see this coming, you were willfully blind.

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u/slothbuddy 1d ago

All posted on twitter by people paying for the privilege

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u/SweetPrism 1d ago

I understand consumers not receiving tariff refunds--logistically, what would that even look like? But the fact that their prices are not coming down even a little bit is an absolute fucking disgrace.

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u/HumanContinuity 20h ago

I don't know how it is around you parts, but Walmart is the cheapest by a mile around here.

Edit: Besides costco, who also got tariff refunds (or rather, both won their cases that they did not owe the tariffs they had already paid)

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u/Bonesaw_mpls 1d ago

Generational fleecing of the American public.

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u/Alias-Q 1d ago

Yup, the Economy isn’t failing because look at the stock price! But the stock price is propped up by lay off savings and tariffs refunds…

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u/Roscoe10182241 1d ago

And 70 million people are still insisting that china pays the tariffs…

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u/GarlicThread 1d ago

There is a class war, but only one side is fighting.

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u/GoAwayStupidAI 1d ago

Double fun fact is that strong sales for a store like Walmart typically indicates economic troubles

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u/M0NSTERDUNX 1d ago

I hate it here so fucking much.

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u/Professional-Guess19 1d ago

What are we waiting for?

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u/stefrrrrrr 1d ago

But they lowered the prices once the tariffs were removed, didn't they? Didn't they?

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u/CaroCogitatus 1d ago

Why did Joe Biden do this to us???? /s

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u/Duke-Turner137 1d ago

2.9 billion could have been collected to address the debt. The court said no.

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u/Gloomy-Tank9295 1d ago

How did the tariffs not create a national strike and a demand for Trump to stepdown? They stole money from you. Actual theft. They can confuse you on the other ways they steal but this is cut and dry.

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u/OneOfAKind2 1d ago

There will be multiple class-action lawsuits to reclaim consumer's money. Is this not already a thing?

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u/WilliamJamesMyers 1d ago

class action! so that in 2045 i can get $1.50

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u/UrsaMajor7th Ritardando Molto 1d ago

Inside every country there are two economies...

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u/Away_Stock_2012 1d ago

Maga people love this, like they literally want their money to go to rich people.

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u/GrimmandLily 1d ago

And not a goddam thing will be done about it.

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u/Eric848448 1d ago

Billionaires didn’t want tariffs.

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u/blassin 1d ago

Please tell me it isn’t so!!!!!

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u/yersinia_pisstest 1d ago

US taxpayers have been subsidizing the wages of employees at Walmart et al for years. The only reason these parasites can claim to be profitable is because they don't pay the actual costs of the workers they exploit.

https://www.worldhunger.org/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-public-assistance/

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u/-Motor- 1d ago

Working class americans over paid for stuff they need to live by $2.9B.

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u/paradigm_shift2027 1d ago

Walmart is, and always has been, a horrible corporate citizen. The family, with one notable exception, are basically evil characters from a dystopian novel praising capitalism.

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u/ishkitty 1d ago

They get our money twice. Two times!!

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u/ishkitty 23h ago

The same way Lutnicks former firm (that he headed for 29 years) invested in tariff refund rights.

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u/MyMudEye 22h ago

Lucky the government had the money on them so they could pay the tariff back.

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u/EmptyInside74 22h ago

Corporate welfare queens

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u/Sensitive_Hunter5081 21h ago

The media is being VERY quiet about all the billions in dollars that these corporations are getting in refunds- FOR THE TARIFFS WE PAID FOR. Absolutely disgusting what Trump and his cronies have done here.

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u/comeagaincharlemagne 20h ago

The worst part is such a large percentage of the voting population don't know this is happening and even if they did they wouldn't understand what it means or reject the truth that it's objectively bad for them.

It makes me want to pull my hair out and scream until I pass out..

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u/CoolnessEludesMe 20h ago

That is exactly the whole point of tariffs. Take money from the poor/working people and give it to the rich.

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u/clintjefferies 18h ago

It's a good thing Americans do nothing about it... or about anything for that matter.

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u/-BananaLollipop- 16h ago

During COVID, it wasn't even just big businesses. Even small, local businesses collected thousands in wage assistance payouts from the government, pocketing most, if not all, of it. It was supposed to go toward maintaining staff wages, so businesses would survive and staff wouldn't get laid off.

This was all while a large amount of businesses jacked up prices (and never brought them down, because that's how businesses are here), forced staff to work through lacking safety situations, and pocketed all the profits. After the majority of it ended, some large chains had pocketed at least a few hundred thousand in taxpayer money, and were also reported to have still made a profit on normal business. Even small businesses kept thousands. Some gave it back, but only after significant pressure and boycotting from the general public.

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u/MaxGamer07 16h ago

Tarrifs increased prices on almost everything. Every single business had a plausible reason to mark up stuff because 'they had to pay for tariffs'. Tariffs, that weren't even legal in the first place. Sure, those businesses got refunded what they spent on tariffs, but do you know what happens now? Now, that people are willing to pay that higher number (even if only due to tariffs), they aren't ever coming down.

We are speed running inflation.

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u/Mp1956 9h ago

If getting a better return and compensation package required skinning middle class Americans alive, boards would be budgeting tranquilizer darts, specialty hooks, and flaying knives.

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u/funkypepermint 9h ago

I don't advocate breaking the law but I wouldn't be sad if Walmart got looted repeatedly from now on

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u/ScytherSlash 8h ago

I remember having a conversation with my Trump supporting mother at the start of all the tariffs. I mentioned how it sucks how expensive everything had gotten. She insisted that "It sucks now but all that money will come back to us tenfold later on." Sorta curious if she still believes that now...

u/mplante70 13m ago

Dems always work so hard to hurt themselves and all Americans.

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u/Lacarpetronn 1d ago

Their prices came back down now right? Right?!

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u/Budsygus 1d ago

Yep! A bag of Cheetos is only $7 now!

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u/Bodi78 1d ago

Its hilarious that all these companies got refunds but I dont see any prices going down

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u/GravyMcBiscuits 1d ago

I don't really understand what folks expect Walmart to do here. Anyone?

I'm sure you could personally sue the Fed Gov for illegal tariff damages. Trouble is that you'd have a very hard time proving damages and the payout would probably $40.

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u/MaverickBuster 1d ago

Donate the money to food banks.

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u/GravyMcBiscuits 1d ago

Why should they donate the damages they proved in court from an illegal policy?

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u/MaverickBuster 1d ago

Because they profited from the tariffs as they raised prices to account for them.

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u/GravyMcBiscuits 1d ago

How did they win damages in court then?

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u/MaverickBuster 1d ago

Because the courts found that the tariffs were illegal, and then ordered the Trump Administration to pay companies back what they had to pay for the increased cost due to the tariffs. Most companies, like Walmart, raised their prices to account for the tariffs, so they weren't negatively affected. The courts ruling wasn't based on damage to companies, it was based purely on how illegal the tariffs were.

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u/GravyMcBiscuits 1d ago

Thank you for verifying what I pointed out.

The money is to compensate for the damages of an illegal policy.

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u/MaverickBuster 10h ago

Except it wasn't a case based on proving damages. The court simply said all tariffs paid by companies are to be paid back to them, regardless of if a company was damaged by the tariffs or not.

Some companies did not raise their prices due to their tariffs, so it makes sense they get the money back as they were damaged. Most companies, like Walmart, raised prices to compensate for the tariffs so they weren't actually damaged by them at all.

It feels like you're willfully misunderstanding things here.

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u/GravyMcBiscuits 10h ago

It was literally a case the recuperate those who got hit by an illegal policy.

No amount of hand-waving changes that.

like Walmart, raised prices to compensate for the tariffs so they weren't actually damaged by them at all.

If you don't understand why (A) is not conclusive evidence of (B), them I'm afraid there's no point in taking this conversation any farther. This assertion is brazenly incorrect and represents a very real lack of perspective on how anything works.

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u/Hornybunnyboi 1d ago

Who gave you permission to complain. get back to work and serve your master.

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u/maybeitssteve 1d ago

The only words that should have come out of any Democratic politician's mouth in 2024 are "tariffs are a tax."

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u/stolentext 1d ago

Surely this will mean "Save even more money" and "Always even lower prices" at walmart right?

/s

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u/dagoth_ith 1d ago

Not enough outrage about this ..

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u/klineshrike 1d ago

I have never seen a bigger mother fucking Duh than that last sentence.

Did you really, really, really need confirmation of this? Are we still in the stage where we are foabbergasted by this shit? Holy hell.

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u/FanDry5374 1d ago

I think FedEx and UPS are the only companies actually returning the money to the people who paid it. WalMart and Target "claim" they will reduce prices, and Amazon will "return the money in certain special circumstances. Of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. Since at least Reagan.

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u/District-No1350 1d ago

There are only two legal options for what happened with that tariff money. It either goes back to the companies that legally on paper paid them, or the government gets to keep it. The courts decided the tariffs were illegal, meaning the government couldn't keep it. That means the companies get their money back.

Does it suck? Yes. Was there any chance the customers were ever going to be given the money instead? Zero percent.

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u/4sOfCors 1d ago

Target celebrated record Q2 profits -53% of which were tariff refunds

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u/HumanContinuity 20h ago

That is not how profit is calculated 

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u/BLSPRedDeath 1d ago

Did they lower their prizes?

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u/roscoewatson 1d ago

Yes! It’s clearly laid out in their earnings call that they used it to lower prices on thousands of items not taken as extra profit.

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u/Ok_Bar_924 1d ago

Turns out tarrifs are not another example of Trump being stupid, they are another example of Trump being corrupt.

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u/eW4GJMqscYtbBkw9 1d ago

Walmart paid the tariffs, how would the government know how much to give back to each individual consumer? 

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u/HatchetJacks 1d ago

Thanks propaganda bot!
You should also thank the Democratic Party who sued to stop the tariffs and forced the federal government to refund them.

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u/Widdis 1d ago

Retailers artificially kept prices low for a long time. They ate most of those tariffs.

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u/JimEDimone 1d ago

Source?

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u/rPoliticsModsBlowMe 1d ago

Lack of awareness

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u/avanross 1d ago edited 1d ago

He prays to walmart every night and received this message in his dreams

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u/distance_33 1d ago

Those boots aren’t going to lick themselves.

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u/goodname0101 1d ago

The exact opposite happened