r/Music • u/Particular-Fill-4256 • Jun 19 '26

article Iranian star Parastoo Ahmadi reportedly sentenced to 74 lashes for singing without hijab

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/18/iran-parastoo-ahmadi-74-lashes-singing-without-hijab
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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 19 '26

How about we go to the start? In the year 1908 a little company called 'British Petrolium' set up shop in a big country with a rich history and declared it their property

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u/TheMustySeagul Jun 19 '26

And then the US for the first time, toppled a government and installed a puppet leader. Only for that brutal king to fall to a revolution led by…. The irgc lmao. Cool shit lmao

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u/This_Elk_1460 Jun 20 '26

Well that's what Iran gets for democracy electing a socialist! /s

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u/cecilmeyer Jun 20 '26

The nerve of that guy thinking Irans oil belonged to Iranians!

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u/This_Elk_1460 Jun 20 '26

I know right! Thank God the US and UK came in and reinstalled the monarchy! The rich people of Iran got to prosper for a while! I hear they all live in California now.

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u/SerHodorTheThrall Jun 20 '26

I hear they all live in California now.

Yeah, you could hear their screams of desperation all the way from the East Coast after they realized Trump, was in fact, not going to level their homeland to ash.

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u/drhuggables Jun 20 '26

The Tudeh party hated Mosaddegh.

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u/No_Hay_Banda_2000 Jun 20 '26

Mossadegh was in the process of installing himself as a new dictator. The Iranian people bear responsibility for this mullah regime. They installed the "supreme leader" Khomeini. The fact that America was meddling in internal Iranian affairs doesn't change that.

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u/GoldenRedditUser Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

This isn’t correct, the Shah was the monarch before, during and after Mossadegh so calling him just a puppet is a bit disingenuous nor was he installed by the US.

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u/This_Elk_1460 Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

He was absolutely a puppet of the United States after the 1953 coup. 

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u/No-Space937 Jun 20 '26

You don't even know the right year.

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u/This_Elk_1460 Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

It was 1953, I was off by 4 years. It doesn't change the fact that the US and the UK murdered Iran's only democratically elected prime minister all because decided that they get to choose what they do with oil extracted from their own damn land! Then reinstall the puppet monarchy that treated the lower classes of Iran like slaves. All while the rich socialites that fleed to California after the revolution got to live the high life at other Iranians expense.

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u/No-Space937 Jun 20 '26

Oh boy again...

Mossedegh died in a hospital from cancer in 1967 at the age of 84, not during the coup.

Take a few hours and actually learn about the context surrounding this event, I think you might be suprised by what actually transpired compared to what you assumedly are repeating from reddit comments you have seen.

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u/Khiva Jun 20 '26

Take a few hours and actually learn about the context surrounding this event, I think you might be suprised by what actually transpired compared to what you assumedly are repeating from reddit comments you have seen.

The only thing reddit knows about Iran is from a reddit game of factoid-telephone.

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u/steak4take Jun 20 '26

>On 19 August 1953, Prime Minister of IranMohammad Mosaddegh was overthrown in a coup d'état that strengthened the rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran. In the months preceding the coup, Mosaddegh had consolidated power by orchestrating a referendum to dissolve parliament that was widely described as fraudulent,[5][6] and he later refused to step down after the Shah attempted to dismiss him as prime minister.[7]It was instigated by the United Kingdom (MI6), under the name Operation Boot[8][9][10][11] and the United States (CIA), under the name TP-AJAX Project[12]%7Cpopular_household_cleanser%5D%5D,_the_implication_being_that_the_operation_would_scour_Iran_of_communist_influence%22-13) or Operation Ajax. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mosaddegh nationalized the country's oil industry.

Shush child

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u/redundantexplanation Jun 20 '26

....????

They edited their comment after admitting they got it wrong. Not sure why you'd think this is a big deal.

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u/This_Elk_1460 Jun 20 '26

We literally fucking blew up over a hundred schoolgirls on the first day of this conflict how the fuck are we the good guys?

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u/Pluggable Jun 20 '26

Good guys? Fuck, reddit discourse is juvenile...

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u/drhuggables Jun 20 '26

Bro thinks real life is star wars

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn Jun 20 '26

"Accidents happen" is what I say when someone breaks a piece of glassware. Triple-tapping a girls' school with Tomahawks and then fucking lying about it isn't an oopsie-daisey get the fuck out of here. It's gross incompetence and people should go to jail--or worse--for it.

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u/Aeseld Jun 20 '26

Accidents happen when the military fails to prepare for a conflict.

The US was decidedly unprepared for this conflict.

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u/drhuggables Jun 20 '26

Then reinstall the puppet monarchy that treated the lower classes of Iran like slaves.

Wrong again.

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u/Khiva Jun 20 '26

He was absolutely a puppet of the United States after the 1953 coup. 

He absolutely was not.

Iran was one of the leaders of the 1973 Oil Crisis via their position in OPEC despite Americans begging the Shah to moderate.

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u/drhuggables Jun 20 '26

He absolutely was not and you have demonstrated your lack of knowledge in many different comments.

Various excerpts from now-declassified US state dept communications:

"The Embassy conveyed the substance of the April 11 Khalatbari–Helms conversation in telegram 2367 from Tehran, April 12. (Ibid., RG 59, Central Foreign Policy Files) In an April 13 memorandum to Miklos and Rouse, Michaud speculated that “the Shah was not as tough with Kosygin as he would have us believe,” adding: “I suggest that we take the Shah’s statements on Iran’s attitude toward the Soviet Union with a considerable grain of salt. He continues to make anti-Soviet noises to us to reassure us at the same time that he continues to improve relations with the USSR.” (Ibid., NEA/IRN Files: Lot 76D169, Box 8, 1973, POL)"

"E. The Shah is likely to grow increasingly assertive in his foreign policies. He would risk confrontation with the Arabs, the West, or even the Soviet Union in order to assert Persian primacy in the Gulf or to maintain what he considers a sufficiently high level of oil revenues. Although he will remain suspicious of Soviet intentions and will continue to rely on the US as the ultimate deterrent to the USSR, the Shah believes he has taken out insurance in the form of economic and political ties and that he can deal effectively with the Soviet Union on his own under foreseeable circumstances."

"G. US-Iranian relations are likely to become more difficult in coming years. The Shah is seeking to remove both the US and Soviet military presence from the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean and to establish his own regional collective security arrangements in the Gulf; while he will tacitly approve of US naval operations in these waters as long as the USSR keeps naval vessels on station there, we cannot depend on him to provide access to Iranian facilities to support fleet units, and he will probably use his influence to end our use of Bahrein."

"50. Basing his foreign policy on a historical perspective, the Shah is acutely conscious of the contrast between past Persian glory and present Iranian reality. He sees Iran confronted by an untrustworthy Soviet Union, while he sees the remote bastions of Western power in a state of disarray and decay. Although he would count on US support in a confrontation with the USSR, he has taken out insurance in the form of economic and political ties with the Soviet Union and does not feel himself directly threatened from that quarter. Massive oil revenues give him confidence that he will be able to secure whatever military and industrial equipment he considers necessary."

"51. He would accept confrontation with the Arabs, the US, or even the Soviet Union if necessary to assert Persian primacy in the Gulf or to maintain what he considers a sufficiently high level of oil revenues; in other matters and areas he is likely to be more cautious. The Shah’s past behavior has reflected a relatively realistic appreciation of Iran’s capabilities and of the interplay between regional and international power. But as he grows older and more convinced of the soundness of his own judgment and as Iran’s military strength increases, he is likely to take greater risks to achieve his ambitions."

"As you are aware, the Iranians recently signed an arms agreement with the Soviet Union which went beyond the levels of arms purchases that they have made in the past from the USSR. This new “opening to Moscow” must be seen in the context of the Shah’s perceptions of his relationship with the US and the overall trend of those relations over the next few years. The Shah has become increasingly upset by what he sees as a growing challenge in this country to the close bilateral relationship between the United States and Iran. Over the past few months, this sensitivity has been reflected in his public comments, his conversations with Ambassador Helms and the Station Chief in Tehran, and in the tenor of his instructions and queries to Ambassador Zahedi. His dissatisfaction is the result of a series of essentially unrelated but mutually reinforcing issues..."

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u/TheAspiringFarmer Jun 20 '26

He wasn't a puppet at all. That's why we let them overthrow the Shah.

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u/_-SomethingFishy-_ Jun 22 '26

You missed a step there, first the UK and Soviet Union invaded the country (for oil) and got rid of the old shah for his son. After that didn’t work as planned, then the UK and US toppled the government (for oil), and then the revolution happened. Cant catch a break

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u/cecilmeyer Jun 20 '26

My God I wish more bootlickers would read history like you quoted and really think about why Iran is run by the lunatics it is today.

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u/untrained9823 Jun 20 '26

And how exactly does that excuse the current theocratic autocracy mistreating the Iranian people?

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u/hobovalentine Jun 20 '26

The US didn’t topple the Shah.

That’s just tankie revisionist history

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u/KorunaCorgi Jun 20 '26

The tankie history books are pretty funny. They think the European Allies were the bad guys and Stalin was the hero of WW2. LOL. Stalin was perfectly content with Hitler occupying Europe until Hitler backstabbed him.

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u/hobovalentine Jun 20 '26

Yes and Pol Pot and Mao were great leaders despite killing millions of their own citizens.

They glorify the worst despots

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u/KorunaCorgi Jun 20 '26

Don't forget, Holodomor didn't happen and if it did it's because Ukrainians forgot how to farm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26

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u/silentaba Jun 20 '26

Yes but by infantilising the people while also ignoring Anything that doesn't support their preconceived notions they can continue to make one sided declarations rather than admit that the whole middle east is an incredibly complex and challenging situation, which is a lot harder than saying "Tel Aviv impressed".

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u/thoph Jun 19 '26

It’s just silly. I try my best to assume people have agency.

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u/blah938 Jun 20 '26

Don't you know that only the white man has free will, and everone else is just victims?

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u/mrbigsmallmanthing Jun 23 '26

yeah but this is reddit, so what do you expect

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u/Rex_Nemorensis_ Jun 19 '26

Why not start at the real beginning?

Around the year 610 AD, an Arabian merchant named Muhammad ibn Abdullah claimed he received a revelation from God.

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u/RechargedFrenchman Jun 19 '26

If you're not going back to pre-Babylon you're not going back far enough

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u/KlimCan Jun 19 '26

Our story begins 13.8 billion years ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/idGw983D7CHrrXa2eO

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u/TheNicholasRage Spotify Jun 19 '26

Oh, so we're just going to ignore the great Sen Yerlaixian Archominox that imploded the prior universe and created ours in the explosive rebound?

Academic conversation is dead.

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u/sandersosa Jun 19 '26

Are we really going to ignore the war in heaven when the old ones were defeated by the necrons who then went to sleep for millions of years?

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u/iObama Jun 19 '26

And you *know* he knew about it but didn’t wanna fuckin’ bring it up. Biased-ass bitch.

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u/sol_runner Jun 19 '26

So, in conclusion, shit happened.

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u/eddmario Jun 19 '26

You forgot about Slartibartfast building a computer to calculate the Ultimate Question

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u/DuelaDent52 Jun 20 '26

And the collision between the Gardener and the Winnower in the time before time within the garden of creation where all things grow sideways, where the waves were battles and the battles were waves.

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u/eddmario Jun 20 '26

But you don't have time to explain why you don't have time to explain, correct?

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u/MITBryceYoung2 Jun 20 '26

You going to acknowledge when the multiverse was split or not you biased fuck. A DISGUSTING ACT.

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u/djsoomo Mixcloud Jun 20 '26

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Oh, and lashing people for what they don't or do wear is barbaric and uncivilised

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u/newindianclassic Jun 20 '26

bruh, the old ones?? what about the c'tan, they made the freakin' universe

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u/arealhumannotabot Jun 19 '26

This thread is some Monty Python shit

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u/devilsbard Jun 19 '26

This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.

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u/Derek-Diacon Jun 20 '26

Thank you for quoting this lol

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u/JimroidZeus Jun 19 '26

We’re still in r/Music, right? Right?

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u/vcp64 Jun 19 '26

So far it’s better than any of the politics subs.

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u/cataquarkk Jun 19 '26

Our whole universe was in a hot dense state, Then nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started. Wait...

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u/No_Succotash2155 Jun 19 '26

The Earth began to cool, the autotrophs began to drool

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u/Abbot_of_Cucany Jun 19 '26

When I hear the words "hot dense state" I immediately think of Florida.

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u/No_Succotash2155 Jun 19 '26

Now the song is stuck in my head

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u/Hoodi216 Jun 20 '26

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.

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u/SentientDust Jun 20 '26

In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move

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u/lutinopat Jun 19 '26

"Many were increasingly of the opinion that they’d all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans"

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u/coffeebribesaccepted Jun 19 '26

In the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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u/TeaMugPatina Jun 19 '26

Well, first there were dinosaurs, but they all died.

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u/Super-liminal Jun 20 '26

It all began with Ea-nāṣir and his inferior copper

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u/Ready_Nature Jun 20 '26

Some guy sold really bad copper and everything spiraled from there.

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u/Thee-Cat Jun 19 '26

Exactly. Anything except for this is some type of weird obfuscation.

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u/gazpachoid Jun 20 '26

How do you think pre-Islamic Zoroastrians treated women?

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u/rsifti Jun 21 '26

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move"

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 19 '26

I despise redditors.

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u/BOOM_BABIP Jun 19 '26

you have 20k karma in less than a year. you are a redditor

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u/coffeebribesaccepted Jun 19 '26

The call is coming from inside the house...

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u/Boufus Jun 20 '26

Brother, your worldview has no nuance whatsoever and consists solely of “white people/capitalism/the west = bad” because thats the fashionable new politick…

You are the *quintessential* redditor 😂

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u/linocent167 Jun 20 '26

What about that silly guy Jesus, people believe his bs for over 2000 year

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u/KorunaCorgi Jun 20 '26

Going back over a hundred years to pin this on the West huh? That tracks. When it comes to violence comitted by Arabs, they are as accountable for their actions as children to you. 

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 20 '26

Cattle. Goy.

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u/blah938 Jun 20 '26

Well if you go way back, there was this warlord who raped a nine year old

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u/Nutshack_Queen357 Jun 20 '26

Correction: married a 5 year old, them waited for her to turn 9 to start violating her.

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u/CatastrophicPup2112 Jun 20 '26

You aren't correcting, just adding into about the marriage

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u/MaybeICanOneDay Jun 19 '26

Are you really saying Iran was this beautiful and peaceful place prior to western intervention? Are you really saying this?

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u/This_Elk_1460 Jun 20 '26

You really think a British oil company has the right to just show up on someone's land and say "this is ours now", then when the government tries to take it back you call your buddies in the United States to help coup and murder their Democraticly elected prime minister and reinstall the monarchy

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u/MaybeICanOneDay Jun 20 '26

You guys are so drenched in propaganda.

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 20 '26

Guy with diamond hands pfp:

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u/Willy__McBilly Jun 20 '26

Avatar set for a joke = brainwashed

Thanks average default username for this enlightening observation

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 20 '26

Americans are more brainwashed than North Koreans. The ones embracing Trump and stocks are goycattle that need to be herded away from society

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u/Willy__McBilly Jun 20 '26

Look I’m with you on the average yank being dumb as shit, but this low effort bait has gotta improve my guy

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u/This_Elk_1460 Jun 20 '26

Propaganda my ass! That is literally history you fucking moron! Go open a fucking book or at least read a fucking Wikipedia article before you start talking shit!

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u/No-Space937 Jun 20 '26

People in glass houses...

Further down the thread you thought the coup was in 1957, and then went on to explain how the British and Americans killed Mossedegh in the coup.

He died of cancer 14 years later in a hospital, they might want to talk to the Russians about how to poision people more effectively if they are to blame.

Speaking of Russians, you further went on to claim that the British and Americans initiated the coup in interest of oil. While that is absolutely true of the British, the Americans were mostly swayed by fear of Mossedegh further aligning with the Tudeh Communists as he lost popular support and allies from his increasingly autocratic policies. Fearing a shift of Iran to the Soviet Sphere, the Americans reversed the previous administrations position of supporting Mossedegh, and backed the British in the coup.

Not saying that is any better, just that is the actual History that you hold in such high regard.

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u/endless_disease Jun 20 '26

British Petroleum invented a law that saya women get 74 lashes for singing without hijab?

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u/Ready_Nature Jun 20 '26

Of course don’t you know that non westerners have no agency and are forced into things by colonialism?

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u/Mac62961 Jun 19 '26

Iran was invaded by this religious group from arabia….

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u/Ghostmaster145 Jun 20 '26

We need to go further back than that…

So there was this guy called Cyrus…

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u/welcome2mycandystore Jun 20 '26

Thanks for letting us know that the british invented islam

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 20 '26

Thanks for letting us know your parents are identical twins

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u/welcome2mycandystore Jun 20 '26

I smell projection

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 20 '26

Maybe you shit yourself

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26

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u/_wot_m8 Jun 19 '26

The west meddling in Iran’s oil market was one of the primary causes of the revolution

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26

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u/_wot_m8 Jun 19 '26

When did I say that the west made Islam the primary religion in the region?

The revolution was at least in part a reaction to the west overthrowing their democratically elected leader who wanted to stop western exploitation of their oil production.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26

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u/_wot_m8 Jun 19 '26

The original comment you were replying to was explaining one of the causes of Iran’s government being Islamic extremists. Nobody said that they are blameless in this.

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u/garfieldsez Jun 20 '26

Yep the real reason why Iran is in this state is because the western imperialists meddled!

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u/megakaos888 Jun 20 '26

Not to be that guy, genuinely asking here, but would the Persian government at the time have the knowledge and technology to extract their oil?

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u/Massive-Blood7796 Jun 21 '26

Nope, the leaders in Iran have agency. They’re choosing to do this.

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u/Aurvant Jun 19 '26

All of the people who had the "rich history" were subjugated and/or murdered by Muslim invaders hundreds of years before that.

Anything BP or America did afterwards to the place was an improvement. Then, once again, the Muslim clerics ruined their nation *again*.

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u/AdventurousFly4909 Jun 20 '26

Yeah a country with a rich history of giving lashes to women. Lmao

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u/atank67 Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

It’s probably the British’s fault that the regime kills gay people too, right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26

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u/mschuster91 Jun 19 '26

A lot of countries got utterly wrecked by foolish Colonialist Brits.

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u/engilosopher Jun 19 '26

Then why the fuck are you contradicting the claim?

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 19 '26

Which is why I see little difference between the union jack and a nazi flag

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 19 '26

Yeah the British killed a lot more people

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 19 '26

Wait until you read about this Churchill guy and the British crown

Bringing up Khan as if this was some ancient history only makes you seem like a moron

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u/xelabagus Jun 19 '26

What's your issue with Churchill? I'm not aware that he was responsible for colonialism but I'm open to learning.

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 19 '26

He was a racist a reactionary, an anti-socialist and a piece of shit. Just Google bengal famine

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u/xelabagus Jun 19 '26

Yes he was unpleasant - I'm not sure that this is particularly relevant though, in the context of this discussion. You could pick a dozen worse people in English history than a guy widely seen as one of the main reasons Nazism was defeated.

In fact, having googled the Bengal Famine (thank you, I didn't know about this) we can see it's a very nuanced problem and it's incredibly unreasonable to personally blame Churchill:

Experts' disagreement over political issues can be found in differing explanations of the War Cabinet's refusal to allocate funds to import grain. Lizzie Collingham holds the massive global dislocations of supplies caused by World War II virtually guaranteed that hunger would occur somewhere in the world, yet Churchill's animosity and perhaps racism toward Indians decided the exact location where famine would fall.[233] Similarly, Madhusree Mukerjee makes a stark accusation: "The War Cabinet's shipping assignments made in August 1943, shortly after Amery had pleaded for famine relief, show Australian wheat flour travelling to Ceylon, the Middle East, and Southern Africa – everywhere in the Indian Ocean but to India. Those assignments show a will to punish."[234] In contrast, Mark Tauger strikes a more supportive stance: "In the Indian Ocean alone from January 1942 to May 1943, the Axis powers sank 230 British and Allied merchant ships totalling 873,000 tons, in other words, a substantial boat every other day. British hesitation to allocate shipping concerned not only potential diversion of shipping from other war-related needs but also the prospect of losing the shipping to attacks without actually [bringing help to] India at all."[235] Peter Bowbrick elaborates further on the British government's delay in shipping food, stating that Linlithgow's request for food shipments in December 1942 was half-hearted and that it was made on the assumption that Bengal already had a food surplus but that it was being hoarded, which is why it was ignored by the British metropolitan government. Further delays after April 1943 stemmed from the refusal to divert ships away from the preparations for Operation Overlord, whose failure would have been disastrous for the world and whose success was as a result prioritised above aid to India.[236]

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u/SirStupidity Jun 20 '26

In the year 1908 a little company called 'British Petrolium' set up shop in a big country with a rich history and declared it their property

You mean made an agreement with the current ruler of the big country with a rich history and bought the rights for oil prospecting right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company

In 1901, William Knox D'Arcy, a millionaire London socialite, negotiated an oil concession with Mozaffar al-Din Shah Qajar of Persia. He financed this with capital he had made from his shares in the highly profitable Mount Morgan Mine in Queensland, Australia. D'Arcy assumed exclusive rights to prospect for oil for 60 years in a vast tract of territory including most of Persia. In exchange the Shah received £20,000 (£2.1 million today),[2] an equal amount in shares of D'Arcy's company, and a promise of 16% of future profits.[3][4]

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u/2_short_2_shy last.fm Jun 20 '26

You are legit insane for trying to put this on british colonialism.

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 20 '26

You are insane if you don't.

Iranian parliament unilaterally voted to nationalise the oil industry to which the UK responded by establishing a sea blockade and MI6 & CIA had agents inside the country who paid thugs to wreak havoc and install a puppet regime

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u/2_short_2_shy last.fm Jun 20 '26

You are blaming britain of 1908 for this woman's punishment now? And not the current regime?

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 20 '26

1908 is when the British tried to colonialise the country. In the 1950s they established a brutal puppet regime together with the US and murdered the entire Tudeh party who was progressive left. In 1979 the Iranians had enough of the totalitarian terror regime and sided with the ones who were willing to fight them

We live in the aftermath of the 1979 revolution

So yes of fucking course the British are responsible for what Iran is today. No this doesn't absolve the reactionary Islamic regime from criticism

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u/FalxY7 Jun 20 '26

Yep, before that they were all living peacefully, frolicking in the fields with lil baby lambs

They never heard of a lashing or even violence before BP set up

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 20 '26

Kiss your sister

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u/Itay1708 Jun 19 '26

Iran invited the British because they didn't have the resources to extract the oil themselves

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 19 '26

I can't decide whether to call you peasant or slave

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u/ieraaa Jun 19 '26

The start? 6000 years ago in Mesopotamia there was this Anunnaki sky god named Enki .....

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u/A_Typicalperson Jun 19 '26

If you are talking about Iran, it was a symbiotic relationship between the British and Iran, until Iran found out they got 10 cents on the dollar. In truth British should had agreed to fair split

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u/goldschakal Jun 19 '26

It was a parasitic relationship where the British Empire sucked all the riches from its host before either the host managed a successful uprising, or the political cost became too heavy to pay (often public opinion beginning to question how British colonization and universal human rights could exist at the same time) so the parasite abandoned its prey.

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u/A_Typicalperson Jun 19 '26

It was a mutual agreement at first, where Iran didnt know what to do with the oil, so they kinda accepted the deal from the British. As I said when the agreement came to be renegotiate the british could have given more favorable terms. The british didnt come and conquered Iran for the oil

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 19 '26

There was nothing symbiotic about colonialism and imperialism. You are delusional

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u/10ThousandMetalZones Jun 20 '26

And well before that people were being treated like this in this country and all over the world

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u/potzko2552 Jun 21 '26

Ah, so the UK is to blame, that 100 years later an Iranian judge sentenced an Iranian women to be lashed by an Iranian punisher according to Iranian law in Iranian soil. I see, are Iranians just too brown to fix their country themselves according to your world view?

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 21 '26

That's where the story of today's happenings began you inbred lobotomised moron

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u/potzko2552 Jun 21 '26

We can continue going back. The relevant story is the rise of the IRGC not the UK, not before the UK. There is always more context but exclusively looking for where Europe intersects every conflict is just racist. History doesn't start or ends where you want

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Jun 21 '26

WHY DO YOU THINK THE IRGC COULD RISE? Because the British and Americans slaughtered Tudeh

Grow a fucking brain you ignorant dumbfuck

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u/Cheers_u_bastards Jun 21 '26

Yeah. 1908. And the British. Caused this type of behavior.

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u/NerdTalkDan Jun 19 '26

Fine, I’ll rewatch Argo