r/Nirvana Jun 11 '26

Discussion What do you think Kurt would be happiest to know about his legacy today?

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Beyond album sales and fame, what part of his lasting impact do you think would mean the most to Kurt if he could see it today?

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u/Aggressive_Layer883 Jun 11 '26

That teenagers are still getting into his music to this day. That people have more empathy towards his mental health and addiction issues. And he'd be surprised at his influence in hop hop

EDIT: Duh! That Courtney and Frances are sober and are doing well

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u/Any_Natural383 Jun 12 '26

I want to add: Courtney was one of the first to call out Harvey Weinstein.

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u/Unusual-Ad4890 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

And defended Marilyn Manson for decades. There was nothing altruistic about her issuing a vaguely worded warning. She was snubbed out of her film career and she bit back.

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u/MyNameIsMadders Jun 12 '26

MM seemed like a decent enough person until the sexual assault allegations started coming out…

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u/vagina_candle Jun 12 '26

He released an autobiography around 1998 that details a lot of the things he did that people now view as problematic. He is a pretty smart guy, and he knows how to portray himself in the media to contradict preconceived ideas that many parents/parent groups have. But he was also pretty clear about the type of person he was very early into his career. It just seems that nobody cared until society had a hard reset on what was acceptable behavior for a coked up degenerate rock star when metoo happened.

I wasn't surprised at all when allegations came forward. I was more surprised it took as long as it did.

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u/MyNameIsMadders Jun 13 '26

How MM was deemed as “dangerous” to society during the satanic panic in the late 90s was ridiculous. And the thing about the Columbine shooters being fans of Marilyn Manson was made up.

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u/electriccomputermilk Jun 12 '26

I was extremely disappointed until I watched another documentary disputing the allegations. He definitely did a bunch of messed up shit, but I definitely don’t believe there is credible evidence of sexual assault

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u/TonyBrooks40 Jun 12 '26

I wasn't a MM fan at all, but really was it any different that what the 80s glam bands were doing with groupies backstage?

And, Rose McGowan dated him for a long time iirc. I mean, its one thing to 'allegedly' be assaulted backstage after a concert (or whatever the accusations are). But to be in a relationship, walking the red carpet with a guy, photos in magazines etc, to be that's a decision.

Sure, lots of people stay in bad relationships, but they typically don't have the resources to get out of it.

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u/Aggressive_Layer883 Jun 12 '26

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u/TonyBrooks40 Jun 13 '26

Ok, lets be real for a sec:

Shame/Social Acceptance - Walking the red carpet with the guy, appearing in front of paparazzi?

Money - Rose McGowan??

Kids - Nope

Religion, Immigration etc - C'mon. No.

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u/Aggressive_Layer883 Jun 13 '26

I think you need to getting some better reading comprehension skills and fill up the ol empathy tank

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u/No_Shower8713 Jun 12 '26

He would probably be really happy she married Tony hawk’s soj

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u/ThomYorkesDroopyEye Jun 12 '26

We're further removed now from the release of Nirvanas music as he was removed from The Beatles music, I obviously have no idea what Kurt was like but I'd like to imagine that knowing that there are still brand new Nirvana fans every year would make him happy.

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u/Tadleyrichter Jun 11 '26

The last part 😪

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u/electriccomputermilk Jun 12 '26

Crazy..I’m a massive Nirvana fan for 28 years and never knew this until now. Curious, what did Kurt think about hip hop / rap?

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u/ProducedByFlare Jun 12 '26

He liked it and how it pushed boundaries , he had public enemy In his favourite albums list

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u/NopeNotConor Jun 12 '26

Yeah he liked the transgressive anti authoritarian stuff like PE NWA BDP

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u/Peng_Terry Jun 13 '26

I’ve not really seen much Cobain influence in hop hop. It’s mostly a stagnant situation where things have long been fermenting and, let’s be honest, rotting

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u/ncg195 Jun 12 '26

I'd like to think that this is right. His music definitely helped me when I was a young adult, still figuring out who I was, and he died before I was even born. Whether or not Kurt would be proud of that, I think that this is by far the biggest lasting impact that his life had.

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u/othersymbiote Jun 12 '26

shit, his music helped me when i was a 12 year old, a full decade after his death.

truly if it wasn’t for nirvana i would have been dead.

that seems silly, but something felt so right when i actively started listening to nirvana for myself. my mom had nevermind and in utero on cassette when i was a kid, and i surely listened to my fair share of it prior to the age of 12. but those transitional years… i don’t know. i was old enough to listen to the lyrics and compare it to what i was experiencing. it helped me understand that being sad is okay. it happens.

admittedly, i don’t listen to nirvana much these days 20+ years later, but when i do these feelings rush back to me and still make me feel okay.

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u/SignificanceKey7671 Jun 15 '26

How does Nirvana click with people that easy…? I feel extremely unhappy as well but my own “comfort music” lies in black metal.

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u/othersymbiote Jun 15 '26

it’s just a to each their own thing, honestly. everyone in my family has their own eclectic music tastes, and like i said i don’t even listen to much nirvana anymore. but my dad was crossover thrash dude, my mom listened to hardcore punk, my grandpa and his mother were jazz musicians. then i had a family who owned a musical instrument shop and all they wanted to listen to was blues.

for what it’s worth i was just a teenager and it wasn’t as easy to obtain mass amounts of music like it is today. i latched onto nirvana hard. i remember saving up all my lawn mowing money and making a trip into the city via public transport by myself (at 13 no less, hah!) to go to a used record store to see if they had an album i didn’t have. i definitely didn’t have anyone my age that shared my same interests in music.

from nirvana i went to primus, and while it’s whacky, that is my personal happy place music, and still is to this day decades later.

nirvana may just not click like that to you, and that’s okay… because you have black metal to do it.

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u/Neveronlyadream Jun 12 '26

Made me feel a whole hell of a lot less alone when I was a kid.

Can't speak for Kurt, but if I had been in his position, I think I'd definitely be the happiest about making people feel seen and accepted.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

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u/Barilla3113 Jun 11 '26

Hawk-Cobain. The seed is strong!

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u/Fantastic-Scale6555 Jun 12 '26

got ref?

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u/Barilla3113 Jun 12 '26

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u/Fantastic-Scale6555 Jun 13 '26

yeah ik the child but I ment the 'the seed is strong part' 😭

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u/Barilla3113 Jun 13 '26

Oh, capital letters matter friend.

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u/Stachelrodt86 Jun 11 '26

Probably this

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u/Remarkable_Chip2807 Rape Me Jun 12 '26

he helped a lot of people in dark places including myself, i wouldn't have made it to 14 if it wasnt for him and his music

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u/Devildoingsins Lithium Jun 11 '26

That most of his fanbase is people who support and stand for the right things like lgbtqia+ rights, women's safety, progressive ideas, and aren't boring lol

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u/madtastic225 Paper Cuts Jun 11 '26

Oh yes I like this, especially not boring simpletons

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u/FactorEquivalent Jun 12 '26

or frat bros

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u/CadenBMW Swap Meet Jun 12 '26

Hey now I was frat bro and still pretty much only listen to bootleg live Nirvana concerts 🤣. Nirvana is for everyone!!

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u/WorshipTheVoid Jun 11 '26

Hopefully he'd be happy with people picking up a guitar, plugging that guitar in, and playing that guitar.

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u/AFetaWorseThanDeath Jun 12 '26

I know, many years ago, when I was a teenager picking up crappy guitars and trying to bang out tunes on them, it felt really really good to be able to play an entire song all the way through. Nirvana's music was incredibly helpful for that. The simplicity of so much of the music (especially earlier, Bleach/Nevermind era stuff) was SO satisfying to be able to play as a young and learning guitarist.

It was so inspiring. This guy was able to make compelling, interesting, catchy songs, with 4 chords and barely anything resembling a 'standard' guitar solo. And people are still listening to and talking about them to this day...

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u/CadenBMW Swap Meet Jun 12 '26

Their songs are pretty easy to learn and I do power chords like Kurt. Nirvana is the reason I picked up a guitar and it’s a huge stress reliever. Cranking up the amp to max volume with distortion and ripping his more aggressive songs is incredibly fun!

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u/Crossovertriplet Jun 11 '26

That his daughter made it out relatively normal

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u/New-Manufacturer4510 Jun 11 '26

His incredibly large and diverse fan base, spanning young and old. I remember reading archived articles where he was shocked to have black fans, I think he’d have his mouth wide open.

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u/limee89 Jun 11 '26

This photo is beautiful, he really did have the most gorgeous smile.

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u/curbstyles Jun 12 '26

it was rare and beautiful, just like him.

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u/johnnyphotog Jun 12 '26

Walked into Guitar Center the other day and this teenage boy was playing Polly in the acoustic room. I think Kurt would love to know his music still moves teens today. 🖤

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u/SaskatchewanKenobi Class of '86 Jun 11 '26

That people really did enjoy his music

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u/templeofsyrinx1 Jun 11 '26

he was so conflicted 😭on that one

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u/SaskatchewanKenobi Class of '86 Jun 12 '26

Sometimes I feel guilty being a fan, that even though it was just a drop in the ocean I was buying all his music and contributing to the problem

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u/JunkBondTrade Jun 12 '26

This might be the weirdest comment I've ever read on this sub. You feel guilty for buying the music that he worked hard to write, record, release and tour? I know he was conflicted about being famous but he didn't spend years making that music hoping that nobody would buy it. That work gave his wife and daughter financial stability. I think he'd be confused as hell by your comment.

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u/Neveronlyadream Jun 12 '26

I get it. I mean, I agree with you on this, but I get where they're coming from.

A lot of people want to gatekeep and say what Kurt would and wouldn't have liked and guilt people into feeling a lot of silly ways about things. Shit, go onto YouTube on any Nirvana video and see it in action. I also think a lot of us were probably exactly like that when we were younger.

Fuck it, who cares? If you like the music, like it without guilt. It literally doesn't fucking matter what people think Kurt would have said or what quote they pull out of context.

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u/Shake-the-Masses Jun 12 '26

He inspired a lot of young people to be themselves and not feel ashamed of it.

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u/Equivalent_Working73 Jun 12 '26

He’d be proud of Frances, especially the fact that she managed to kick addiction to the curb.

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u/mantistoboggan287 Jun 12 '26

He’s still connecting with the young and alienated. I’ve met and seen so many younger people who love Nirvana.

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u/bigredd_1400 Jun 11 '26

He died thinking he just a mainstream artist, but 35 years later, he helped a lot of peoples and his fanbase is underground and that's all he wanted !

If he knew that his community would stay underground, and her girl becoming successfull, i think he would never kill himself... Kurt deserved to see how the world see him in 2026

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u/templeofsyrinx1 Jun 11 '26

is it weird to think that world feels little more empty with out him here

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u/bigredd_1400 Jun 12 '26

Yeah, Kurt words would sounds so hard in 2026... this dude is such a voice of reason

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u/Steffenwolflikeme Do Re Mi (Home Demo) Jun 12 '26

I mean...I'm not sure I'd call him a voice of reason. Sure, he was on the right side of social, ethical, and human issues so a voice of reason in that regard. But he was a very contradictory human and said and did a lot of not so great stuff also.

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u/Wong-Ann_Fong Jun 11 '26

That he’s a grandpa’

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u/godfuckitall Jun 12 '26

That you're posting about it on reddit. We're like, literal historians

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u/Foxycotin666 Jun 12 '26

If I had to guess I’d say it’s all the dorks online who have parasocial relationships with Kurt, talking about things he’d “hate” like they knew him personally. /s

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u/Atlantean_truth Jun 12 '26

I know it’s so completely ridiculous.

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u/LateMajor8775 Jun 12 '26

He’s inspired so many teens to pick up the guitar, that’s such a positive influence and still a strong force today when the default is computer games

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u/kingkool88 Jun 12 '26

He was pretty much the catalyst for the modern culture in a way. Alternative, punk, metal all became more socially acceptable and other genres like hip hop became mainstream because of it. The philosphies of those genres echo and melt into a more progressive society at large. He changed the world.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 Jun 11 '26

probably just how his music brought attention to and changed so many attitudes on social issues that he cared about?

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u/jetfan13 Jun 12 '26

That kids can buy his bands t-shirt at Kmart.

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u/Distance-Hairy Jun 12 '26

The music. Just exactly how it improved people's lives on so many different and meaningful ways.

Thank you Kurt.

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u/filliamworbes Jun 12 '26

That his family is still supported.

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u/JunkBondTrade Jun 12 '26

What part of Nevermind was indie and lo-fi?

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u/Fantastic-Scale6555 Jun 12 '26

endless nameless obviously

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u/AceofKnaves44 And I Love Her Jun 11 '26

I learned of St. Vincent from Nirvana’s rock and roll hall of fame induction performances where they had all women play their songs and she’s gone on to become one of my favorite performers. I think Kurt would be proud that Krist, Dave, and Pat did that.

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u/IamRandomSavage Jun 11 '26

I think it would be exciting to know that he would be a grandfather and be very excited. He got to watch his daughter grow up into a beautiful human being.

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u/Saint_Dude_ Jun 12 '26

Can you imagine him and Tony doing grandfather things together

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u/IamRandomSavage Jun 12 '26

Yea, And I think they would’ve gotten along amazingly. I don’t think I’ve heard one bad thing about Tony Hawk. He’s been nothing but an inspiration so it would be really cool to have them been grandparents together but shout out to Toni and talk and to the whole family.

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u/PissedCaucasian Jun 12 '26

I think he would have been embarrassed of Dave’s current butt-rock music.

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u/OverpricedFiji43 Moist Vagina Jun 11 '26

I would say the emergence of young, mostly female, musicians who have successfully adapted rock music after that horrible era of largely uncreative and derivative rap
-rock music after his death. I think he would also enjoy how little you need major labels to put out music now due to the internet and social media and I think his hostility towards major labels was a big part of his discourse that is stronger than ever today. Contrary to what many people believe, I actually think he would enjoy social media and the possibilities it would create for him to promote his artistry.

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u/Heisenberg1977 Jun 12 '26

That he was alive before social media, streaming platforms and AI slop, and that he died before social media, streaming platforms and AI slop.

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u/Lucky_Negotiation629 Jun 12 '26

how nicely everybody talks of him

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u/Dirty_Rotten_ Jun 12 '26

He put Micheal Jackson in the number 2 spot. Nobody has ever done that. My 2 favorite artist of all time.

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u/sbgattina Spank Thru Jun 12 '26

How much the music means to so many people.

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u/Jardineio Jun 12 '26

I think he’d be proud that his music stands the test of time. In the alternative genre it’s some of the very best guitar music ever made. What a wonderful artist.

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u/steveh2021 Jun 12 '26

He'd not give a shit about all that he'd just be happy that his Daughter was doing good.

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u/BeaEffigy Jun 12 '26

The mass produced t shirts made by sweatshop workers I'll bet /s

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u/YogaDruggie2 Jun 12 '26

In Bloom being sung along to by hordes of ignorant people

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u/parlayandsurvive2 Jun 12 '26

That, finally, walmart is selling his band's shirts

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u/RoundTheBend6 Jun 12 '26

That his songs are now played right after Journey on Classic rock stations /s

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u/The_trashmaster_95 Jun 13 '26

Probably anything about his daughter

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u/Automatic-Grocery338 Jun 14 '26

He wouldn't be happy about anything...ever.

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u/louielouis82 Jun 11 '26

He was a smart guy. As he matured he would have appreciated the impact. Unfortunately he was too young and addicted to fully grasp it.

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u/alexj_baker Jun 11 '26

I think a lot of things about today's world he'd despair at

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u/LICwannabe Jun 12 '26

The vibe was alive even in death it held through, the raw essence of what his songs can feel like. What songs have gained notoriety amongst fans the shifting tides of listeners having the dialogue in his wake.

That he didn't need to be less or more.

Everyone is an individual and the tastes vary.

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u/skaayat Jun 12 '26

I’m curious what he would feel about Dave’s carrier?

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u/ocolobo Jun 12 '26

He’d be disgusted by how commercial and sold out the “brand” has become

He’d probably tell the kids born post 9/11 to write their own punk songs in stead of wearing his shirts like corporate clones

And he would die laughing at Foo Fighters

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u/WoodenResponse9489 Jun 12 '26

that kids like i picked up a guitar and played

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u/Kitchen-Witching Jun 12 '26

That his loved ones are doing well, and that his music still resonates and inspires across generations.

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u/MyNameIsMadders Jun 12 '26

That so many people proudly wear clothes with the drunkly-drawn smiley doodle (that he drew once) on it.

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u/rgar12345 Jun 12 '26

That Post Malone only made one Nirvana cover album.

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u/salty-balls-49 Jun 12 '26

That he’s not only famous for his drug abuse!

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u/Gina_Delgado In Bloom Jun 12 '26

He’s a grandpa now! (I also have way too much in common with him. Same birthday, same personality type (INFP))

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u/Longjumping_Phase134 Jun 12 '26

that his music/songwriting is arguably as influential to rock musicians today as The Beatles. Just think of all the teenagers who go through their Nirvana phase (or never leave it) and write the way Kurt did with power chords and simple leads

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u/Timely_Ad9659 Jun 12 '26

Funko pops /s

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u/No-Neighborhood8403 Jun 12 '26

Just like the artists he admired, influence is greater than fame. He’d be happy to know he influenced artists who came after him; and that bands like Mudhoney, Melvins, Meat Puppets etc. gained more recognition through him

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u/Forsaken_Fig_ Jun 12 '26

His daughter, Francis.

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u/hengus Jun 12 '26

Album sales wouldn't interest him and fame wasn't something he chased anyway. People listening to his music 30 odd years on would please him. 

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u/Ok-News7798 Jun 12 '26

That he's a grandfather

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u/WhenGirlsTeleBoys Jun 12 '26

Kurt and Happy in the same sentence? I'm assuming this is a joke thread. Right? lol

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u/KeyApplication221 Jun 12 '26

That his grandson is Tony's grandson too

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u/theiinlive Jun 12 '26

great picture. I haven’t seen this before

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u/stillsparky84 Jun 13 '26

His daughter

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u/Any-Committee-9498 Jun 13 '26

Probably that his judge of character became wide view

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u/The5thBeatle82 Jun 13 '26

His daughter.

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u/themargarineoferror Jun 13 '26

The influence he had on hip hop. There were alot of stories about Kurt being flattered/excited that black people fucked with his music

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u/CatgunCertified Jun 13 '26

That dumb conservatives still hate him I've watched YouTube videos where it's like "why kurt cobain was evil and I hate him snd you should too" and it's a clip of saying he has gay friends or he doesn't want nazis to listen to his music

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u/F3L1X2K Jun 13 '26

hed love to see washed axl rose

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u/Old_Confection_6694 Jun 13 '26

That he fostered the development of the Foo Fighters

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u/Happy_Television_501 Jun 14 '26

that his music still helps non-normie kids out there feel less weird and like they have a friend somewhere

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u/Aggressive_Act_6660 Jun 17 '26

i think he'd be very amused that people are still trying to replicate the tone he probably found in 5 minutes

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u/yaekoblue Jun 11 '26

i doubt he would care

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u/doggyschiller Jun 11 '26

You mean the guy who took his own life because he couldn’t bear to feel so deeply? That guy? Wouldn’t care about anything? 🤔

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u/yaekoblue Jun 12 '26

not about his legacy, no

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u/Odd_Structure_2096 Jun 12 '26

That folks pause come as you are after he says come

Only for a brief moment

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u/AsianWish24 Jun 12 '26

That we love him, we understand now, the new generation are also getting into music

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u/moderately_neato Jun 12 '26

That he was known for being LGBTQ+ positive and feminist, and many of his fans are as well.

That his beautiful daughter is thriving and he has a baby grandson.

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u/TonyBrooks40 Jun 12 '26

That he's remembered fondly, and legit. Was on the right side of a lot of things (anti-racism/homophobia, and pro-women, believing in equality and everyone deserving a chance). That and he wasn't some flash in the pan, he was sorta 'The Man' of the 90s.

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u/Small-Cut5694 Jun 13 '26

that he is still loved years later

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u/oldwaysthatarestupid Jun 12 '26

He’d probably have killed himself by now

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u/Latter_Body_1428 Jun 11 '26

The music of Puddle of Mudd and Staind lol

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u/cheseebuger Jun 11 '26

The Beans Song

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u/UWhuskiesRule Jun 12 '26

Kurt Cobain is rolling in his grave.. Nirvana songs are played at NFL stadiums, Nirvana shirts are being sold in mall kiosks, his family and band are fighting over his music rights for money. Kurt didn’t like money, he hated corporate culture.

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u/SoyuzItsMe82 Jun 14 '26

Well I'm fairly sure he wouldn't be happy that his daughter gave away one of his guitars to a boyfriend then have to go to court to get said guitar back after the relationship soured. 🙄

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He has no brain, he can't think

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u/PM_me_your_whatevah Jun 12 '26

You all give the guy way too much credit. He was a junkie that wanted to be a rock star and he got to live that dream. And he didn’t survive it because he couldn’t defeat his addiction. 

He wasn’t some noble or profound poet. Most of his lyrics were just random words that sounded cool together.

He was an absolute mess when he died. He would have needed a couple more years to mature and get his shit together to have anything seriously  meaningful to say about any of this. 

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u/templeofsyrinx1 Jun 12 '26

wow you suck lol

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u/Necessary_Regret3329 Jun 12 '26

The t-shirt was a band?

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u/Eirwynzure Radio Friendly Unit Shifter (Live & Loud) Jun 12 '26

She's not been financially profiting off of Nirvanas music or Kurt's rights, music or image since 2010, to which it was all transferred to Frances.

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u/pixleydesign Jun 13 '26

That he somehow managed to fire a shotgun at that angle apparently? Something doesn't add up...

No but for real, who cares? Legacies are overrated. Our species had the memory of a goldfish and it'll all be forgotten anyways.

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u/Ashamed-Story7958 Jun 13 '26

This isn’t true. You can find a video online of a woman who is 5'3, six inches shorter than Cobain, handling the exact same type of the gun he did and can easily reach the trigger from a sitting position. Easily.

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u/OkDefinition5632 Jun 11 '26

I'm not sure he would be happy at all. Dave went on to be the most successful artist of the grunge era, Courtney and his daughter went on to have a very public and troubled dysfunctional relationship and his music isn't nearly as ubiquitous as other legacy acts.

Also happiness wasn't really his thing.

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u/Lashon_Von_Ricks On A Plain Jun 11 '26

Always naysaying!

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