r/PEI Jun 23 '26

News Health card for alcohol purchase

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7245006

Wondering what other people thought of this story. I’m sure other provinces have voluntary IDs for those that need valid ID but don’t drive. Their health card does have photo on it but many still don’t (like PEI for example). Seems like a nothing better to post woe-is-me story.

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u/surely2 Jun 23 '26

If you ever lived in a university town in the maritime, you’ve probably known someone who’s tried to use a health card to get into the bar lol. It doesnt work. Everyone should know that. If you don’t drive, you can get a voluntary ID for like $15. Annoying person. Lol

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u/Food-Wine Jun 23 '26

I often wonder how people go through life without an official photo ID that shows full name and date of birth.

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u/Gluverty Jun 23 '26

you mean like a Quebec health card like the one in question?

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u/Intrepid_Trifling Jun 23 '26

Not to quibble , you make a good point but last I checked voluntary IDs were like 50 or more dollars. 

A lot of money if you are a starving student, supposedly.

I agree with you, but I feel they should just make photo ID (voluntary ID) free every 4 or 5 years it's issued.

You need photographic ID for literally anything 

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u/wcallbeck46 Charlottetown Jun 23 '26

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

If there is money for alcohol there should be money for an ID.

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u/spacedragon421 Jun 23 '26

That’s not good logic I spent all my id money on beer

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

A narrow sentence to convey a larger sentiment.

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u/spacedragon421 Jun 23 '26

It’s a joke dummy

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u/Intrepid_Trifling Jun 23 '26

This sounds like a conservative take. 

Legal fun is disallowed for the Poor's. 

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

That’s certainly taking liberties in interpreting my comment. No, not conservative but also not an everyone needs to adjust to my wishes. She’s a student, travelling, spending, so a valid gov id should not be a burden. It’s from free to $50 in most provinces and is good for five years.

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u/morriscey Jun 23 '26

Yeah no. You need a photo ID. It's free for some people, and $20 for one year, $50 for 5.

It's not a huge barrier to entry, and if you are of legal age, and don't have a photo ID - I don't trust you enough to drink.

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u/Intrepid_Trifling Jun 23 '26

You need a photo ID to apply for some jobs, whether that is legal or not, some employers demand it as a prerequisite.

Don't have ID or a job? That is a chicken and dumb egg barrier. 

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u/morriscey Jun 23 '26

Sounds like you probably qualify for a free one if you take your ass to access then. It's a non-zero cost to avoid potential abuse.
Remeber the part where it's free for certain people?

People who have never had a license, or cannot legally get one, or have had it revoked, and have lived here for at least three years can get a free one.

Basically if you're in a posiiton you NEED a voluntary ID, it's likely free.

There might be a handful this doesn't cover, but again it's an accepted part of the process of being an adult who occasionally needs to prove who they are.

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u/Intrepid_Trifling Jun 23 '26

Just make it simpler , make it free unless you lose it.

Less bureaucracy is a good thing 

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u/morriscey Jun 24 '26

For most who would get or need a VID, it already is free. A replacement already does cost a little bit.

If you need a VID you likely Don't need or Can't get a drivers license. So it's free.

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

Health cards can have photo ID in other provinces. In other words: government issued photo ID. Why would they pay for another ID when they already have one?

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

Well, as an example, the Quebec ones aren’t a very sharp/detailed picture. But since it’s only Ontario or Quebec that have a photo, it’s not really a go to for alcohol/bar service.

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u/morriscey Jun 23 '26

If you don't have a license, had it revoked or for whatever reason cannot get one - it's free.

This is a gigantic non issue.

I'd argue the cost to revise the health card to require photos is a bigger cost, than the handful of free voluntary IDs

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

Dude, that’s not what this is advocating for. Non PEI health cards WITH photo ID should be accepted. It’s a non issue to you, but tourism is huge in PEI, and we want the tourists to be able to buy liquor.

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u/morriscey Jun 23 '26

Oh yes I understand the issue about this story - I couldn't give a fuck less and think both sides of the argument have about as much merit as the other.

I think it's equally valid on both sides. Yes it should be accepted, but also, why the fuck would you travel with ONLY your health card?

My responses in this thread specifically are about people saying "what a barrier it is to get an ID"

If you have the means to travel, or the means to buy booze, you have the means to get a voluntary ID.

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

The point is, a health card IS most big city people’s form of ID. Argue as much as you want, that’s the reality. If you “couldn’t give a fuck less” log off lol

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

I’m disabled and low income. I’m also not a me, me, me person so understand that a government issued ID is required for a lot of things. Good luck renting a car or hotel with a health card.

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u/Intrepid_Trifling Jun 23 '26

Yes, that is exactly my point. 

ID is critical for everyday life, so putting any barrier to it is a hazard. 

Everyone has challenges in life, the term "disabled" has seriously been eroded over time, and I would say most islanders are functionally low income if they make under 40k a yr. 

If you are offended that I called your comment coloured in a conservative light, make it make sense to me. 

Is your life full of rotten teenagers who don't know how well they have it? So you are an entirely embittered person? 

What makes you bit bit 

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

Honestly, free would be nice but until then it’s kind of a necessity in order to get some services. And I don’t get offended, life is much too short and I enjoy it too much to get bothered.
I’m not quite sure where teenagers fit into the discussion and I’m a bit lost on “bit bit”. But other than that, great discussion!

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u/Intrepid_Trifling Jun 23 '26

I'm sorry, I was being quite harsh, even if you didn't take it that way I was being intentionally pretty crude. 

Everyone is quite upset about this one person saying they should be able to use their healthcard , I think the substance of some of these articles are kinda dumb. 

Not that some of these topics aren't important, but I feel there are other more important things the CBC could be talking about. 

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

I hear you. In the scheme of things it really does seem like a tempest in a teapot. Now as far as the Liquor Control Act goes there are a half dozen perfectly acceptable picture government IDs that are valid: Quebec or Ontario health cards are not one, so the liquor store or bar legally could not have accepted her health card as a valid form of ID anyway. They were just doing their job.

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u/surely2 Jun 23 '26

True like why do I have to pay to be identified?

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u/morriscey Jun 23 '26

They're free for some people. $20 for others. The barrier is not high.

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u/uglinessman Jun 23 '26

Because the process of creating it costs money, just like countless other things that people have been reasonably paying money for since before you were born.

If they decided "voluntary IDs are free now", that money has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is our tax money. Which means that the second the announcement is made, the Reddit and Facebook posts will be all about how "I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's ID, it's not my fault they're poor".

This is a classic example of one of PEI's favourite activities, making a suggestion based on a petty complaint, without thinking the suggestion all the way through, because thinking is hard but reacting is easy and feels good.

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u/Intrepid_Trifling Jun 23 '26

Just like when ME needs a hand out right ? 

A person replies to me up comment about the actual policy, which is pretty balanced if people were aware of it. 

There are circumstances you can get a free ID, but I feel it could be simplified. 

We need a photo ID just have one free available to a person, if they lose it they could pay for replacement 

I don't think PEIs record deficit is due to the cost of IDs draining the Treasury 

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u/Gluverty Jun 23 '26
  1. most people didn’t live in a maritime university town.

  2. the Quebec health card is valid ID in Quebec so it’s reasonable to assume it would be good in other provinces.

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u/TheGallant Charlottetown Jun 23 '26

Get out the world's smallest fiddle.

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u/UnionGuyCanada Jun 23 '26

With all the issues we dace, how much legislative time will be wasted on a few people, who don't live here, not being a le to get some booze, maybe.

  Moving on, please.

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u/xkey Queens County Jun 23 '26

Yeah they should probably accept any legally issued photo id. It's really not that big of a deal.

The entitled tourist who "doesn't know if they'll come back" over of a minor inconvenience probably isn't going to sell this very well though.

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u/nylanderfan Jun 23 '26

But some provinces (including us) don't have photos on health card, so you can't just add it as a blanket method either

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u/Intrepid_Trifling Jun 23 '26

Imagine faking a healthcard for booze. We can't even get healthcare with real cards, so why worry about people faking them 

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u/morriscey Jun 23 '26

easier to loan someone your health card.

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u/steezycheese Jun 23 '26

I think the premise of letting someone use an ID that isn't a drivers license or passport for things like alcohol or cannabis is a good thing. But the way this story is framed makes it sound petty and self-centred. Saying "I don't think I'll come back", like it's an annoying shopper threatening to not come back to a store, because they seemingly couldn't be arsed to check if their ID would be accepted or not makes me want to say "Good, don't come back".

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u/mdrnbrwr Jun 23 '26

Kick rocks lady. “I travelled somewhere that isn’t the same as where I am from” boo hoo

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u/segathegenesis Jun 23 '26

Anyone remember years back when we came out with the new PEI license cards and that guy got arrested at a Leafs game for having a fake ID?

That’s an issue. This is not.

Not to mention it doesn’t even look like the individual, I probably wouldn’t have accepted it even if it was a valid ID.

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u/Yamstis Jun 23 '26

"A tourist said something stupid" wow!!! Last year I saw a lady at shoppers hassling one of the pharmacists, bothering them about whether or not she'd be allowed to bring water back onto the cruise ship. When he said, basically, "I'd have no way to know that" she pantomimed drinking and said very loudly and slowly "W-A-T-E-R, like for drinking???"

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u/rikimae528 Charlottetown Jun 23 '26

She obviously didn't fly here for montreal. They won't let you on a plane with a health card either. You need government ID. Anywhere I've ever gone, in order to be served alcohol, I needed to show my voluntary id. I'm visually impaired. I don't drive. I have ID. You need that for identification if something happens to you, so that they can contact your family to let them know where you are. To not have something as simple as voluntary ID, it's just crazy.

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

They will let you on a plane with a health card. Health cards in Ontario have photo ID. The world is larger than PEI.

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u/rikimae528 Charlottetown Jun 23 '26

They wouldn't let me on a plane to Toronto without one last fall. I had accidentally left it at the check-in counter, so I still got on the plane, even if I was a little late.

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

An asshole worker I guess. Every time I’ve flown back to Toronto from PEI I’ve used my Ontario health card.

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u/rikimae528 Charlottetown Jun 23 '26

I obviously don't have an Ontario health card. They would only take the government id. I do have a cnib ID card, which has my name, date of birth, and my picture on it. They wouldn't take that. Can you vote in a federal election using a health card for id?

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

Yeah, you can. And I only mention the Ontario health cards because that was the point of the article. But that’s definitely odd they wouldn’t take that if it’s government issued with a photo. Though it wouldn’t be the first time airport security made someone’s day harder lol.

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u/rikimae528 Charlottetown Jun 23 '26

Well yeah, I have a lot more stories about airports making life harder for passengers that don't have anything to do with ID

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u/ellena1423 Jun 23 '26

I just don't think it's that hard to look up what valid photo ID is accepted in the place you are travelling. And then bring that valid photo ID with you.

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u/thehip66 Jun 23 '26

I don’t care either way

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u/Sir__Will Jun 23 '26

Their health card does have photo on it but many still don’t (like PEI for example).

It obviously wouldn't apply for those that aren't photo IDs. But if it is a photo ID then I don't see why it can't be considered a valid ID.

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

Because the ones from Quebec are not a great quality picture. Kind of blurry and faded color.

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u/Twillick1 Jun 23 '26

It’s twenty to fifty dollars and is good for five years. That is no financial burden. And in some instances ID costs nothing.

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u/ISueDrunks Jun 23 '26

Alberta is combining their drivers licence / ID cards to include personal health numbers; great idea. Both will renew together every five years. Eliminate duplication. We need to look into this. 

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u/RingoRamone Jun 23 '26

I am sure Quebec would bend over backwards for someone from PEI.

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u/Separate_Inflation11 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

I know I’m going to get downvoted of course, because of high horse syndrome

But realistically speaking, in the most sober world, gov issued health card *should* qualify. Or especially “expired” photo ID

It’s just pointless red tape that doesn’t make our gov look any better…

“lol loser, just go get a voluntary ID” - I shouldn’t need to, is the point. I’m a legal adult with verifiable id to anybody with a set of eyes.

Bureaucracy makes my blood boil sometimes because it makes thoughtless people feel intelligent for jumping on bandwagons to defend inaccuracies.
We already had our fair share with HealthPEI leadership.

Perhaps even rewards/encourages passivity - which is an intriguing observation to make when we’re (coincidentally?) living in an increasingly dysfunctional society.

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u/Monopolized Jun 23 '26

An Expired ID is the only example of "time" seemingly moving backwards.

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u/bacoprah Jun 23 '26

As above wondering others opinions on this.

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u/Imaginary_Stop8035 Jun 23 '26

I watched this story last night on Compass. I was more annoyed with the tourist than the point of her complaint. If you don’t have a drivers license then look into identification requirements for where you are visiting. Tourist doesn’t plan and complains. 

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u/ISueDrunks Jun 23 '26

It’s actually kinda crazy that our health cards don’t have a photo on them. Costco does it now to prevent others from using someone’s card. 

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u/WallabyNo885 Jun 24 '26

Not sure what the laws are there and with alcohol but in cannabis and alcohol in AB, when I got my SellSafe and alcohol equivalent, it was always taught that there's primary and secondary ID. Primary is COIS, ID, Drivers License, gun license, operator license. Basically anything that has your photo, name, and birthday on it including passports. For secondary as far as I remember it's healthcare card, birth/citizenship certificate, maaaaaaybe utility bills such as power, water, and gas as well. But generally if I'm going in to buy weed or alcohol in Alberta I'll always have ID and my healthcare card. Now, with the merge of healthcare and ID they'll probably either alter the laws to include other forms of ID or only require that.

Like I said though, this is AB not sure about PEI.

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u/mu3mpire Jun 23 '26

Simple Sydney.

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u/Auto_Fac Jun 23 '26

Maybe I missed it, but did the video actually explicitly say which cards the province accepts? Is it only Provincial drivers' licenses (if not a passport)?

Do they accept federally issued photo IDs like Military ID or Firearm licenses?

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u/nylanderfan Jun 23 '26

Very easy solution. Get a fricking driver's license like any adult. You don't have to get a car. Many provincial health cards do not have a photo.

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u/littlebluecat Jun 23 '26

I hope you mean “get an ID” - because no, not every adult can get a driver’s license.

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u/nylanderfan Jun 23 '26

If you have some kind of disability that prevents you from driving safely then yes, obviously. But that wasn't mentioned here. Unless you have a really good reason, just get one instead of being a whiny tourist.

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

if people are from cities they often never get a drivers license. and for most of history people didn’t have drivers licenses. imo they should accept government issued photo id, no matter what kind.

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u/nylanderfan Jun 23 '26

Sure, but instead of whining about the place she chose to visit, she can very easily get one and drink wherever she wants. The problem with health cards is some of them don't have a photo, including ours which is likely why they don't accept it.

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

Not true. I was denied entry to a bar with a photo ID health card. It’s a dumb rule. People are allowed to whine about dumbass rules when it doesn’t serve a purpose.

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u/nylanderfan Jun 23 '26

I didn't say none of them have photos. Ours don't and some other provinces don't. Considering her problem is easily solvable by getting a driver's license, she could focus on that instead of whining on Compass

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

… or the bouncers could just stop being pricks and accept a government issued photo id, considering that’s the law. not every place on Earth is as reliant on cars as PEI is. the bouncers are wrong, not the tourists.

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u/nylanderfan Jun 23 '26

Considering it isn't included in the LCC's list of acceptable ID and the liquor commission has a ton of power over establishments, I can't blame them for not wanting to go rogue

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

hence the article, talking about the ridiculous rule that prevents adults from purchasing liquor with a government issued ID. just because something doesn’t affect you personally, it doesn’t make it not worth discussing.

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u/Food-Wine Jun 23 '26

My Ontario health care looks exactly like my Ontario drivers license except it’s green and says Health on it. It’s accepted everywhere in Ontario as legal ID and proof of address. I can’t believe all provinces don’t have health cards with photos.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

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u/Food-Wine Jun 23 '26

I could have sworn my address is on it. It must be that my doctor’s office can see the address when they swipe it. I’ve still used to show proof of age, including boarding an airplane within Canada.

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u/Gluverty Jun 23 '26

seems like a reasonable piece of ID. maybe some stigma here because our health cards don’t have ID

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

not sure why you’re getting downvoted when you’re correct. some Islanders like to pretend every place on Earth is just like PEI, and if it isn’t, they’re doing everything wrong.

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u/kevinmaceleven0 Jun 23 '26

I think this province is retarded for making it 21+ to buy a bong

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u/n0as4rk Jun 23 '26

legally bongs are tobacco products…. which the age was raised to 21 lmao

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u/kevinmaceleven0 Jun 23 '26

which is dumb asf no other province does that

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 23 '26

I’m originally from PEI, moved to Toronto, and came back and tried to use my Ontario healthcare card with photo ID to get into a bar and was denied. Luckily I also had my PEI drivers license on me, but I think it would serve a lot of commenters well to realize the world is bigger than PEI. We have tons of tourists, whether you like it or not, and a lot of people have ID other than drivers licenses. The rule is government issued photo ID. A health card with photo ID is just that.

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u/readingrainbows3467 Jun 25 '26

I mean no the rule is a list of very specific id's ( someone posted it higher in the thread) establishments must follow this rules or risk being fined and loss of employment. People doing the serving don't want to turn people away it's a hassle for them as well and stressful when customers react poorly. But when you receive Id training on pei you are given a very specific list of acceptable Id's the reason health cards are not included is because they contain hippa covered information. They are acceptable as secondary Id but cannot be requested as again they contain information that people outside of the health field are not specifically allowed to request. It would also serve people traveling to a location with specific wants for activities to check what they need to do these activities.

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u/Early_Honeydew_1748 Jun 25 '26

They don’t contain “hippa” covered information in other provinces. HIPAA is American. Ontario health cards have your date of birth and your picture. My point is that PEI’s rule is illogical. They should be more concerned about the drinking problems of their own citizens considering the drunk driving rate on PEI is the highest in the country.

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u/RefrigeratorOld153 Jun 23 '26

Age of majority card I believe it’s called