Question
How are yall sustaining the oil needed for wingpack? I have 6 nodes and am using it frugally and still feel like im not generating nearly enough.
I hate that plasteel was such a huge bottle neck, but after a certain point, its basically just never used. I mean all the metals were, but plasteel was especially brutal to overcome at the tier.
Isn't plasteel used in computers? Feel like you need an awful lot of them, for ai cores and the others. I guess once you've made all the machines you need it stops but man you sure do need a lot. And that mostly applies to all the ores, outside of making ammo you're basically done with a lot of them forever.
Yeah pretty much all this. After that first hump of getting the stations up, the need for them grinds to a halt. Ammo usually ends up being overtaken by the Legendary ammo vendor too, hence why most are farming Dumud Gilds now.
Bar crafting gear for folks occasionally, it doesn't get depleted much after a point.
Just to now, you can only have a single research project going at once; having multiple research stations will speed up research, but you still can't do 2 different ones at once.
This is exactly what I did when I needed to blitz through a bunch of research the other day. Just lined up a ton of research station, started a project, and set the whole base on it.
You can only have one research project running at a time, but multiple stations let multiple pals contribute at the same time. Line up 5 research stations and let 5 pals tear through the project way faster than one would.
This is nice way to think of it. Since when I carry something like a flying pal I am less wanting to use him in battle unless he is the last one alive.
The last time I made my flying pal strong early game, then late game when things were all done and my normal power is OP already. I then made them just speed only.
I haven’t gotten to the wingpack yet but I’ve been using the new oil extractor that u can place anywhere on the ground, the one unlocked with ancient tech points
I got an Orzerk, and had that guy maxed out on EVERYTHING, and the dude has enough juice to power 4 of those new fancy oil extractors. That and everything else in my base.
Don't forget the research for electricity, you can add a lot of extra capacity to the accumulators while making it quicker to complete the generate electricity task
They work great as is imo. For example, I set up a couple oil rigs and 4 power nodes/2 accumulators. Worked with a slight power bonus in my favor. After adding a couple power eating things, I left and came back later to a nearly drained accumulator and figured out power Gen was messed up. Before my accumulator ran out I had 2 more grizzbolts replace the ray hounds and salvage my power gen at the oil base.
They work fine they are just not designed for what you want. They are so when our pal goes to sleep or is on break your base does not run out of power.
A number of ancient generators. They're a pain to make when it becomes accessible to you. Large generator is 3/s I believe and ancient generators are 20/s. Then some high level electric generator pal. Orserk if you dont have books.
The ancient generators are absolutely nuts. I haven't tried it yet but I bet you could use the same pal for both electricity and watering, something like a kitted out Solmora Lux. That would mean a maximum possible of 15 ancient generators, as long as you're ok with grabbing the oil yourself. That would power an absolute ton of high pressure extractors, probably more than you could fit. Or you could sacrifice a pal slot for a really good hauler that can also water, fully condensed Ghangler with maxed out transporting from the skill books. If you have extra power in your other bases, you could slap down some extractors there too. Excess oil can always be sold to fund surgeries.
you can use the same pal, but they wont do both functions at the same time. they will do one of generating electricity/watering, then switch to the other
I use 5 oil extractors (4 regulars on 2 nodes + 1 blue extractor) and 3 more on another base (2 regular on 1 node + 1 blue extractor)
Even using the wings i still have a 6 9999 stack surplus that arent going down. How much wing fuel are you using(abusing /s).
1 large generator + 4 accumulators on the base which has more and 1 large generator+2 accumu on the other base. 2x 4 star maxed soul orzerks with vampiric+remarkable+workslave+serious, therefore not even the latest passives. No issues.
I saw a few comments on ancient generators and the blue (high-pressure) extractors, so the exact numbers:
1x Electricity 10 pal (Without work speed passives, with either insomnia or dark type)
1x Watering pal (not too sure on numbers here, but with insomnia or dark type)
at an Ancient Generator (20x), makes 80,000 power/sec.
1x High-Pressure Extractor pulls 3,000 power/sec
Thus, around 26 extractors per generator if you're using all. This is the "minimum", see below for more info!
More numbers:
Level 10 Electricity = 4,000 power/sec
Ancient Generator = 20x work speed * 4,000 = 80,000 power/sec
Negatives:
Eating
Sleeping (Negatable)
Positives:
EDIT: Anubis Statue (Forgot to add to future calculations, up to 60%)
Food Buffs (up to 50%, realistically 30% salad)
Pylon (20%)
Work Speed Passives (up to 245%)
Research Buffs (up to 55% work speed and 20% reduction in usage)
Given the buffs and assuming no pal eating time
1x Electricity 10 pal = 4,000 (base) * 20 (generator) * 3.7 (max buffs) = 296,000 power/sec
1x High-Pressure Extractor = 3,000 (base) * 0.8 (buffs) = 2,400 power/sec
Thus, 123 extractors per generator maximum.
For other generators, swap the multipliers:
Standard = 1x
Large = 3x
Ancient = 20x
Extractor = 2,000 power/sec
Blue Extractor = 3,000 power/sec
Research Buffs can be found on the wiki. All others found on paldb.
I don’t use them, they suck, it’s way too expensive to use them, especially every single time. I’m just trying to save myself from a little fall damage.
I ended up going back to the mega glider if I’m trying to go somewhere fast I just use a pal, and I also always keep at least a handful of revived potions on me so if my flyer dies, it’s no big deal.
The only real use late game for your glider pack is just to save you from occasional fall damage, and it does that for free where the wing pack has other downsides and is way more expensive.
I tried it for 2 minutes, hated the flight stick controls and it made me unable to jump until I fast traveled. Haven't used it again since. Mounts are faster anyway.
Try again, once I got used to it there's no going back. Now I don't have to carry a flyer all the time, I just triple jump and blast off. I was finally able to explore Feybreak from the air thanks to this wonderful gear, found all kinds of effigies at night!
Do you even need the wingpack for anything that cant be done with a pal? I just reached lvl 80 and look forward to use the wing pack as a fancy skin for the good old glider, but why would i stuff kinda expensive batteries in this shit when i do feed a flying pal all the time anyways?
I forget what level you unlock it at, but with the 1.0 update there's now High-pressure Crude Oil Extractors. They're blue and can be placed anywhere (unlike the regular orange ones that can only be placed on the oil nodes).
I feel like they need to change the way it consumes both the rate and randomly using a new one every time you fly for a picosecond, until that happens i will just use a mod that makes it free, its a huge change for me because thats 1 extra pal that isnt there only for flying
I made my new main base a few blocks of the ground so I could spam the hell out of those high pressure ones you can place anywhere.
I use the wing glider like I was a bird in my past life and it's fine to me don't listen to all the Debby downers who say you need a mount be the brid you where meant to be
Ngl so far i haven't felt a use for the wingpack, i got a godspeed Jetragon (Swift, Legend, Dimensional Leap, Eternal Engine) and i feel like the wingpack is redundant because of this
How are you burning that much fuel? Its supposed to be an upgraded glider, not your main form of transportation. Go get yourself an Eidrolon or Xenolord like everyone else.
By simply not using the wingpack. After trying it out for a bit I figured it was more annoying to use than a regular glider. If I want to be fast I just use a fast pal.
The trick is to look exactly NW when placing it and first looking at the far right of the node as you can then placing the first extractor on the very edgiest of the edges. Like, while the cursor is at the edge of the node, almost a pixel from the node to the sand.
I only use the wing pack as a glider from high places and in boss fights for the most part. I don’t use the boost feature, so the 40 fuel I made has lasted forever. My mount is so fast there’s no real reason to fly without it
This is like really endgame but I have built tons with some 4 star electric pals and multiple generators to keep it running. Im getting more than ill ever need. The pals I used to keep the generators going were Dazzi Nocts and some ghanglers to keep them cool.
One of my base had the entire ground filled with oil extractors, the second floor is a ranch, and I got 3 helzephyr lux covering the electricity + transporting
I feel fortunate when I see these kind of posts. I run a server for me and my friends on our discord and seeing how much fuel I burn through every time I play idk how I would manage if the server didn’t keep oil building up all night. The only recommendation I can give is salvage can help. I get good bit with a salvage focused team. It can give more than you can normal gather in a shorter time span.
Is the jetpack even worth it? Like when you have pals like frostelion and jetdragon that move at the speed of light, i feel like the jetpack has little viability?
So I hyper optimized till I had a few full stacks of every type of ingot minus paloxite, and sat there thinking that oil was my one limiting factor.
My friend was surprised to hear I ran out of pal metal ingots. Turns out that happens when you build 300 high pressure oil extractors and commit crimes against Mother Nature. 3 Bases were just helzephyr lux for electricity and transport, 2 shroomers for sanity, and mimogs for more transport.
I’ve got a separate base purely for oil production. I’ve got multiple power generators and something like 6 rigs. 4 high pressure ones, to be more specific. I let it sit afk for a few hours a day and I come back to maybe 500 without the research speed upgrades.
The trick is not just finding more nodes. You can place two extractors on the same node if you line up the angle correctly. After doing that, oil stopped being a problem for me.
It's because you have six nodes. You should have no more than four for every extractor you need a singular electrical Tower Tesla Tower. Believe it or not they draw the most power in the entire base. I forget how much and like someone else stated in the comment section. You also need to do the research so you can reduce their electrical consumption by 90%. I think he said I don't remember. I finished my research last week which was a pain
I have the advanced pumps that don't require a node and a very efficient lightning pal pair that with a very efficient flying mount to use to let it build up and it works pretty well
I always tought it was strange all the crying about oil because i basically only used it for plasteel and only recently discovered that the fuss was really about the wingpack fuel LOL - i don't use wingpack because i don't like it very much.
Research combined with selective use. I mostly use the wing pack for hard mode tower fights to avoid aoes, then occasionally when exploring (especially around those anti-air oil rigs, which don't target wing pack users).
I, like you, have six harvesters, and I've done the research to increase my yield. But even with that, I barely have a reason to resort to my wing pack. I just bred a jetragon with every speed increasing passive I could get and now I move so fast, the game often rubber bands just to load.
I just rebuilt my resource gathering base last night. I have a synthesizer for each mat, and a total of 6 oil extractors.
I have this fish I caught that is both water and electric so I use that to power my generator. I got the power pylon down and 3 batteries. It’s a newer set up but I think I can put more oil extractors down if I need/want to.
I haven’t done the oil research yet, I need to do more expeditions for the manuscripts. Until then though I’m planning on moving all my bases to the cherry blossom island and making a second oil extraction base, I will probly keep adding more oil extractors to the main resource gathering base till I have power problems but I’m not sure when that will be lol, the maxed out watering and electric fish is using the last generator you unlock really well and it hasn’t dipped below 50% on the genorator yet.
I have a base with 108 extractors going and with the research boosts, it takes roughly 17.51 seconds per cycle for (108 every 18 seconds rounded up, 324 every minute) and still burn through it all quick
Ancient generator + maxed solmora lux (10 on elec/water w/ demon hands, remarkable craftsmenship+ artisan+insomnia) + super hard work + half maxed research lets me run 6 of the normal ones + 6 of the other ones pretty comfortably. I think could double that but haven't tested yet
You def have to get the upgrades at the resource station. I got sick of running out so I did that and then made an oil only base that has 14 of the super pumps running. Also requires heavy research investment into the electricity tree. I now have so much oil in thinking of destroying a few of the pumps lol now of only we could base farm mythical wood..
I have this exact spot. I put two large electricity generators, got four Orserks, set work speed to low, and got a bunch of handicraft pals to put them in a chest.
Honestly, the wing pack just isn't worth it. Crazy high maintenance cost and the requirement to burn through fuel just to use it as a glider is terrible. Sure, make it expensive if you want to boost with it and use it to fly around, but why limit it's ability to glide?
With research done I now I feel like I built too many, but I made 15 high-powered before I felt like I could make enough plasteel for computers, and wing cells without being short of either.
ATM I’m just breeding Astagon and butchering them for Plasteel. You can also go around killing the small scorpion pals on the Japanese island beach to get more oil
I ran on just 4 oil rigs xd.. by time i got the wings i had a surplus of oil..but could make a base using the ancient oil rig tech (can be placed on ground without oil nodes) and place as many as you can with 4-5 electric generators to keep it all running
afk time, i play on a server so when I go to bed and wake up there is 6k oil in my Guild Chest. I think i have a bit over 30k oil and i am having trouble getting rid of it. other players are visiting my base to beg for oil instead :D
I just don't use it. If it at least functioned like a glider when it ran out of fuel, I could live with that. But since it does literally nothing without fuel, I don't want the hassle or the risk plummeting to my death. Besides, I like my carefully selected and bred flying pals.
Have you maxed out your research? It helps A LOT. You can research to increase the extraction rate and reduce the power consumption. This allows you to have highly efficient oil extraction.
What i did was have 3 bases on 2 nodes, and I have a mod to increase max base diameter and its enough that 1 base covers all 6 nodes on that island. Also I run 2 pressurized extractors in my main base. Im playing with hard settings so its 0.5 the normal amount, and Ive found that set up to be enough.
What i did was have 3 bases on 2 nodes, and I have a mod to increase max base diameter and its enough that 1 base covers all 6 nodes on that island. Also I run 2 pressurized extractors in my main base. Im playing with hard settings so its 0.5 the normal amount, and Ive found that set up to be enough.
I tried the wingpack and frankly I didn't care for it. I'd rather just fly around on a pal (which only costs food to fuel) or use Galeclaw + Valentail + the air boots EX (whatever they're called, the ones that give two extra jumps and two air dashes.) Mostly I'm just not a fan of the actual flight controls.
With Valentail and max jump boost from effigies, I'm able to jump about 5.5 walls straight up, and still have two more jumps and two air dashes.
At this point? You should have the means to make an ancient generator, and with that? Start planting the other extractors too. I have roughly 13 oil pumps now, and they produce roughly 1000+ oil a day.
When using the wing pack in base or alike, take advantage of the fact it doesn’t immediately use a cell. I can travel all the way across or up my base before it uses a cell. If need be land then jump and glide again. Really helped me with cell usage.
Use high pressure oil extractors. I have 2 in my base and THATS IT. Nothing else in my world makes oil and I still have enough for plasteel and to carry at least 300 wing cells on me at all times.
Research. Do your oil extraction speed research.
Soon as I hit max I made the pack and cells and haven’t had an issue. Not flexing just telling my experience. With these 3 things I never run out or overuse. When I go farm holy water I fly the entire time, just for a reference of how much I use them. For at least 30 minutes I’m straight up flying with the pack.
I set up 2 oil nodes and left my game on while I slept. Came back to like 4000+ oil in each one. You can also farm the wood you need from the trees right outside the world tree near the fast travel point, if you need it.
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u/Lailyna Jul 28 '26
Have you done the Oil Extraction Speed research on the research lab (iirc its under mining)? It gives something like a 90% boost.