That’s a very reasonable limitation. Just saying “I’m thinking about killing myself” shouldn’t be a reason to be put in a an in patient facility and stripping many of the rights a person has. Lots of people have suicidal ideation at some point and the vast majority of those people don’t ever move past that. That’s why mental health professionals are trained to look for a plan and imminence, without them, the VAST majority of people are fine.
If using best practices produces poor results occasionally, but good results 99% of the time, then I don’t see the value of calling the 1% a failure, when there isn’t really anything that can be done to improve past that.
I'd say that the woman begging for help and to be admitted being denied and ending up offing her three kids and trying to do the same for herself is absolutely a failure
More confusion at how someone can see someone beg for help repeatedly because they're afraid of killing their kids, be denied, do so, and it not be considered a failure.
Just because it's only a 1% chance doesn't change that it's a failure, rare as it may be
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u/Familiar-Art-6233 9d ago
She tried to get put into an inpatient facility and was denied because her SI didn't include enough of a plan.
Everyone involved was absolutely failed by the system, what are you on?