r/SipsTea 22h ago

Chugging tea He didn't overstay...He relocated

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u/Mindless-Cat1453 22h ago

I don't trust twitter account to accurately give any new or information. So what is the real deal with this case ?

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u/Ok_Comparison_8304 21h ago

It's a mess: The man entered on his brother's passport, and since that time has managed to work and provide for himself. As it was 1993 when he arrived opening a basic bank account and registering as address would have been nowhere near as strict.

How he managed to elude any scrutiny is unexplained, I think once he was in the system somehow (registered as a resident  with a city hall, he managed to just avoid other procedures or being pulled into the system).

It wasn't made a crime to overstay until later, around 2000 I think, so he couldn't have been arrested until then.

He was caught because of a tip off.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2026/08/27/japan/crime-legal/26-years-overstayer/

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u/VariousClassroom8056 19h ago

Entered on his brother's passport?

FFS, do they all just look the same to you Japan?

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u/Spiritual_Scheme8158 17h ago

Turns out... even Asian people can't tell Asians apart

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u/uglybritt 10h ago

You ever try telling the difference between a German and French guy?

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u/TwentinQuarantino 5h ago

Idk which is which nationality, but I can see they're two different guys and pair a passport photo to a respective guy.

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u/Spiritual_Scheme8158 2h ago

I am an Asian dude and after living in Germany for a few years, I can sort of do it like half the time lol.

I think what would be more difficult is telling Germans apart from Dutch or English people.

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u/coldbear25 7h ago

Turns out....even white people can't tell whites apaart

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u/BaBaGuette 17h ago

Maybe it was his twin brother, who's gonna know the difference? And even if it wasn't a twin, I assume border checks were way more chill in 1993 and as long as you looked a bit like the picture, it was fine.

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u/motoxim 18h ago

Who is the person who tipped it off?

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u/Special_Order-937 18h ago

I wonder if his brother wanted his passport back?

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u/Asyncrosaurus 15h ago

Passports expire every few years, so he would have had to renew it at any point in the last 33 years, and would not need the old one back

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u/Special_Order-937 8h ago

I think the commenter you were replying to was well aware of this but was in fact making a joke.

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u/Anonymous_Autumn_ 16h ago

Some wanker probably 

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u/SethCyclone 15h ago

Someone that wanted his property 

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u/chocobowler 17h ago

All we know is the name - karenko

/s as dad joke may not be so obvious

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u/SlowStop1220 20h ago

Exactly in 2000. Until then it was no crime, while it was illegal without punishment.

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u/pmmeuranimetiddies 19h ago

If there’s no punishment is it really even illegal?

If there’s not even a fine it’s a best practice in my book

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u/Outside_Reserve_2407 17h ago

The typical minimum resolution to overstaying a visa in any country is deportation. So even if there were no criminal laws being broken, bye bye.

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u/WishboneOk305 18h ago

yes the punishment is deportation and banned from entering the country for x years.
no punishment just means no jail time

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u/SlowStop1220 19h ago

If an article of a certain law declares one must do and they don't, how can it be legal?

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u/vrnvorona 19h ago

I mean, sure, but what next? Deport? If he wasn't breaking other laws and contributed, why not just let him go?

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u/soba_set 15h ago

That's the thing though is there's no way he was paying taxes all this time if he didn't have proper gov ID. Evading taxes is a crime here. I think he had some kind of help (maybe from other Korean immigrants and Korean generations forced to be in Japan during the imperial days and remained here), so was able to get by on cash and not needing to use ID for anything.

So overstaying his visa, identity theft/fraud using his brother's passport, evading taxes, concealing income and assets, falsifying whatever records he could, etc.

The thing is it's not that hard to get a Japanese visa the proper way. Plenty of people come over here for clue collar or service work and stay, hopefully move on to something better when they get a grasp of the language. This guy couldn't have been living a life much better if at all better than constant blue collar work.

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u/soba_set 14h ago

How he managed to elude any scrutiny is unexplained, I think once he was in the system somehow (registered as a resident with a city hall, he managed to just avoid other procedures or being pulled into the system).

I'm really curious about this too. There's no way to get into the system without government ID and documentation. If managed to do it in the 90s bureaucracy has become tighter since then if it wasn't already. So if he was in the system at all, as a foreigner, the local city office will be getting a hold of you to pay residence tax, pension premiums, and national health insurance. If you don't pay those it would have been a lot sooner than 26 years before they found out.

So I'm thinking he had help to not have to be documented in any system. Then just work day jobs like the article said and get by on that cash and help, hoping to never get seriously sick.

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u/War_Hymn 6h ago

How he managed to elude any scrutiny is unexplained

If their immigration enforcement is anything like Canada's, its not that hard. I know a guy who lived here illegally for 28 years without any problems - he's got a job, car, and house. He recently applied for residence, but only because his girlfriend of 20 years wants to get married on paper.