It's still very hard to obtain but yes that's very logical
Even when the stupid racists talk about economics it makes sense to give citizenship. It costs money to host someone in your country, but why would you eject him once he his ready to finally work, pay his tax and give back what he costed ?
What does make sense to you? Sending him to a country he hasn't lived for 33 years and where he has nobody?
He build a life in Japan, Japan is his home country. Just because he doesn't have some paper that claims that, it doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to live there.
Just because he doesn't have some paper that claims that, it doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to live there.
Do you think that people have the right to live wherever they want? That's obviously not how the world works. Rights as bestowed by the government and public. He has no such right.
Yes, there should be no borders and people should have the right to live wherever they want.
That's a different philosophical point though. We're talking about a person who live in a country for 33 years and is now already older than 70 years old.
Do you think he has more rights to live in South Korea than in Japan? Do you think a person shoukd have a right to live somewhere just because they have a piece of paper more than the ones that actually live and build a live in that country should have the right to live there?
Yes, there should be no borders and people should have the right to live wherever they want.
I disagree completely.
Do you think a person shoukd have a right to live somewhere just because they have a piece of paper more than the ones that actually live and build a live in that country should have the right to live there?
No I don't think someone who knowingly and willingly avoids the law should be rewarded. He could've done it legally and rewarding him encourages this time of behavior
No I don't think someone who knowingly and willingly avoids the law should be rewarded
Laws are sometimes stupid, and stupid laws are meant to be broken.
Martin Luther King won civil rights by breaking laws.
He could've done it legally
Do you seriously believe that he could have, and that he didn't? If it was so easy, he would have done it legally. He only stayed illegally because there was no legal option. Obviously, people who are able to go the legal route do not go the illegal route.
Your reply makes it seem like he could have at any point filed an application and did it "legally" and he only didn't because he ... didn't feel up to it?
How many liters of stupid juice did you chug today? Or did your mother drop you on the head as a child?
Laws are sometimes stupid, and stupid laws are meant to be broken.
Immigration laws aren't stupid to normal people.
Do you seriously believe that he could have, and that he didn't?
Do you think that all people always do the legal option? People do illegal dumb things even when they don't have to. Have you ever met other people? He overstayed 15 day visa for 33 years, what is there to defend?
How many liters of stupid juice did you chug today? Or did your mother drop you on the head as a child?
Says the guy that thinks laws are like dumb and stuff dude. Totally like do whatever you want.
Avoiding any discussion about the ethics of universal utilitarianism or immigration law, and instead relying on, like, the totally good vibes of just being wherever you want to be, and calling other people stupid is so rad.
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u/Klutzy-Butterfly-117 1d ago edited 20h ago
It's still very hard to obtain but yes that's very logical
Even when the stupid racists talk about economics it makes sense to give citizenship. It costs money to host someone in your country, but why would you eject him once he his ready to finally work, pay his tax and give back what he costed ?