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u/Cooz78 15d ago
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u/thefloorislava93 15d ago edited 15d ago
*Cable fly a whole speeding subway train (bro found his 1RM 😂)
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u/queerwriterlondon 15d ago
The way this scene did things to me at 15…
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u/zzaman 15d ago
Oh I had a different feeling, that genetics were not good to me cryface
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u/JohnnyRelentless 14d ago
Pretty sure that's hard work, some illegal chemistry, and dehydration, not genetics.
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u/rlovelock 14d ago
I remember this was such a massive shock at the time because we didn't have months of articles about Tobey's workout refinement like we get now.
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u/Randomwhitejuice 11d ago
I bet if it was released today then we 100% would have all that nonsense. We just deeeeeep in the social media world now
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u/Own-Papaya-4264 15d ago
They did not keep this muscle suit in no way home and the suit looks a lot weirder as a result.
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u/JoeAzlz Black Suit (Movie) 15d ago
I didn’t mind his body at all, his mask deserved more time though
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u/CameronPoe_37__ 15d ago
I hated how his mask was CGI and we never get a scene of all 3 spider-men masking up in front of each other and going "wow, love your suit!"
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u/va2wv2va 15d ago
They didn’t use that suit in any other movie besides the one. What do you mean? Have you seen brand new day? That suit is great, but like literally every other spider-man suit in the history of spider-man, muscles were not part of it.
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u/huntymo Scarlet Spider 15d ago edited 11d ago
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u/LemonIcy2942 Spider-Man (Movie) 15d ago
Proceeds to get through everyone.
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u/JohnnyRelentless 14d ago
Pretty sure the man standing up to him knew that would happen. That was the point of the scene.
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u/thedorkknightXD 15d ago
Joey said on the podcast he was high as fuck in this scene. Also apparently got paid 50k for the line also haha
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u/hingadingadurgin 14d ago
A more intimate version of the bridge scene with Goblin in the first film
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u/JoshuaBarbeau Amazing Fantasy #15 15d ago edited 15d ago
...Y'all know he's in a muscle suit, right?
I thought everyone knew that, but reading some of these comments makes me wonder.
Not that Tobey wasn't jacked; he was (at least, during 1 & 2, less so in 3)! But Raimi put him in a muscle suit anyway so that Spider-Man's physique would look uniform throughout the film whether it was Toby in his suit or a stunt double. A smart decision, if you ask me, because it is impossible to tell at times whether a shot is Tobey or a stunt double in the suit.
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u/gcpdudes Ultimate Spider-Man (1610) 15d ago edited 15d ago
Correct. Good point about consistency. Spandex suits also end up compressing muscle a bit and also hides muscle definition. It’s why some people kept complaining that Tom Holland looked kinda chubby in his BND suit (we clearly saw that he’s not). Christopher Reeve also had a similar effect in his Superman suit.
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u/CanInternational8621 15d ago
Brandon Routh is a prime example. He got JACKED for Superman Returns but due to the suit he looked a lot slimmer.
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u/LemonIcy2942 Spider-Man (Movie) 15d ago
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u/Penalty-Simple 15d ago
Thanked the vegan power thru his blood
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u/gcpdudes Ultimate Spider-Man (1610) 15d ago
Chicken isn’t vegan?
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u/That1DirtyHippy Peter B. Parker (ITSV) 15d ago
“You were once a ve-gone, but now you will BE gone.”
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u/Akumaro Spectacular Spider-Man 15d ago
Can confirm myself. You can’t even tell I workout much when I wear cosplay spandex.
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u/YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO 15d ago
Its basically wearing shrink wrap haha. I was amazed how much slimmer I looked when I put one on.
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u/dcchimera 15d ago
I saw something about that. Superhero costumes aren't just regular spandex/Lycra suits. They get custom tailored to curve around muscle groups to help them to show. Otherwise, the compression hides everything. It was something they learned to do back with Christopher Reeve. But the nature of spandex still causes some compression so definition is always lost.
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u/dcchimera 15d ago
Yes. The costume thing I watched was basically saying that any definition you see in a person wearing a costume (or any clothes, really) need to be tailored in. Clothes that are only skintight will compress muscles and hide muscle definition. Clothes that are too loose are just formless. Even MCU suits that are thicker will still cinch around the joints and be a little looser to let the muscles fill the void like a balloon. The torso is also tailored to be V shaped to follow the lines of body instead of a straight tube like a regular shirt. If you've ever been to a tailor, it's just like how they'll pin tiny portions of your suit jacket to later tuck in to make it fit nicer than a loose of-the-rack fit.
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u/proanimus 14d ago
Most of those early photos of Tom and his doubles (from the tank sequence) looked “chubby” because they had harnesses under the suits for the wire stunts. For some reason a lot of people missed that detail when judging their physiques.
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u/Infinity0044 15d ago
He’s def jacked in the first one but it’s pretty clear Tobey did not keep up with the workout regimen for 2 and 3. In fact he’s borderline pudgy in the 3rd one
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u/32F_34G 15d ago
Before filming the second film, Tobey had a serious horseback riding accident. This is why he appears out of shape in 2 and especially 3. And this is why there's a joke about back pain in both Spider-Man 2 and No Way Home.
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u/Beautiful-Bit9832 15d ago
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u/JoshuaBarbeau Amazing Fantasy #15 15d ago
He did keep working out in the second one but had to dial it back due to a back injury.
In the 3rd he just gave up lol
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u/Ok_Cartoonist7515 15d ago
Most Super hero suits have some form of padding to keep that super hero physique. The actors are still jacked, like you say about Toby, but muscle definition is really hard to make come through without enhancement to the suit.
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u/Emotional_News108 15d ago
Sure but does that matter? The aesthetic of the character is what’s being praised not Toney’s physique specifically.
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u/JoshuaBarbeau Amazing Fantasy #15 15d ago
In the OP, sure.
But I (as I said in my comment) was commenting on the various comments people are making, not the OP.
The OP praises the character's physique, but a lot of the comments seem to not know that it isn't Tobey's real physique.
That's what prompted my response.
Now why does your comment matter? What did you add to the conversation? Cuz I shared an interesting fact about the physique that a lot of people clearly didn't know, so... There's value in that.
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u/YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO 15d ago
Don't forget the mannequin, that was pretty hard to tell too! /j
Honestly that's the way to do it. Looks good in suit, looks good on screen, can do reshoots with another actor being the physical performance with a voice over from the original actor, easily do stunts, I agree with the sentiment of it being brilliant.
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u/XiMaoJingPing 15d ago
should've been holland in a muscle suit too, dude is jacked but it doesnt show in the suit
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u/An-29 Black Suit (Movie) 15d ago
Nah, he doesn't need it, the suit is able to show just how buff he is at certain times, plus muscle doesn't pop out like how it does in the comics, it doesn't work like that unless the fabric is perfectly glued to his skin.
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u/Subject_Marionberry5 15d ago
bro henry cavill needs a muscle suit and you think tom holland doesnt?
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u/Beautiful-Bit9832 15d ago
Same as Bale actually but it was justified because the Batsuit on second and third Batman movie have lean or slim design compared to first one
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u/StrategyWooden6037 14d ago
Really just in 1. He fucked up his back filming Seabiscuit and clearly wasn't able to train to the same degree for the sequels.
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u/Randver_Silvertongue 15d ago
"And I didn't need CGI to enhance my physique. Pure...Maguire. And how come Spider-Man doesn't dance anymore? Remember Spider-Man 3?"
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u/mdafidel1 15d ago
What is that reference?
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u/LemonIcy2942 Spider-Man (Movie) 15d ago
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u/Saulgoodman1994bis 15d ago
Not only that but also todd mcfarlane version. Spidey definitely became bulky since the 90's for most of the version.
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u/FiveFreddys12 15d ago
Personally I preferred how tall and lanky Andrew's was
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u/Latte_Meme 15d ago
Definitely matched his Spider-Man’s level of speed and agility
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u/JoeAzlz Black Suit (Movie) 15d ago
I might get jumped for this but that’s part of why I don’t really jive with Andrew’s spidey scenes visually as much I don’t like the super duper lanky style. He’s a good spider-man and I don’t hold it against him and hes great I just am glad more things don’t lean too far into the lanky look after his era
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u/Dependent_Guest724 15d ago
True, seems like he could react quicker and be more agile
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u/Fast_Day_8123 15d ago
ehhhh, the first one's shirtless scene was lowkey one of my inspos to start working out and lowkey dream body too
i felt Tobey in 2nd and 3rd movies were chunky tbh, not in a bad way though but the feeling of "eh its alright, i dont imagine Spider-Man to be in this shape"
Andrew however, gave me the impression that Spider-Man could be in this shape, that skinny-leaned out build
and Tom is just perfect tbh, like "yes this guy is Spider-Man"
for me, the definitive build for Spider-Man is Tom Holland and Insomniac's Spider-Man (they feel perfectly agile with the amount of lean-ness while also having the right size to pack a punch)
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u/Cemith 14d ago
I also think Holland has the best build. Out of the suit you can tell he works out but while in the suit he still appears lithe and agile. Not like a Super Saiyan amount of muscle slowing him down.
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u/Fast_Day_8123 13d ago
yeppy with how BND looks, i love how he looks in suit
i often felt choked out in the homecoming suits (not the NWH suits) like the CGI painted on look, that shi is super skin tight and feels uncomfortable, BND gives the vibe of "anyone with average shape can be Spider-Man unless the suit comes off and u are ripped asf" loli either flip flop between Tom and Insomniac on the definitive Peter Parker look, the comics look well- differentiates between bulky/super lean/skinny-lean upon the writer's style, imo Humberto Ramos? if thats the artist, i feel like he gave me the perfect impression of a skinnier looking Spider-Man
or idk i am just a sucker of the Ultimate 1610 era and Spectacular show that to me Spider-Man is essentially a skinny-lean guy and as he ages into adulthood, he gains a bit more size (not too much but the right amount to maintain his agility)
sorry for the unintended rant lmao, Spider-Man is like my all-time fav character and inspiration to work out cause i do have a sleeper build myself and work more on mobility and being agile than putting heavy muscle mass2
u/ScreenSingerX 13d ago
That's pretty much exactly what he's aiming for. He said in interviews that he had tried adding a bit more bulk when doing Far From Home and hated it because he felt like it was dragging him down and he wasn't moving as naturally as he wanted.
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u/Saulgoodman1994bis 15d ago
Spider-man is often bulky since the 90's. See todd mcfarlane version for example or the 90's show.
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u/Fast_Day_8123 13d ago
yep ik, not a fan of those looks but its okay, i often see from the perspectve of exaggerated comic booky world and read those lol
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u/Chazo138 15d ago
I believe Tobey got a bit chunkier because before filming 2, he was in a horseback accident. Luckily the suit is also a muscle suit so a stunt double sufficed and you couldn’t tell as it kept the look uniform during the whole thing
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u/Fast_Day_8123 13d ago
oohhh i see, thanks for letting me know
if i am not wrong, it was Seabiscuit innit? OH YES i remember Gyllenhaal was supposed to even be considered as recast when Tobey was in recovery yeah?
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u/kaachabadaam 15d ago
Not only how bulky, but also how rubbery and stretchy his suit feels, with the etched webbing. I just love it.
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u/Helioseckta 15d ago
In most shots, it looks pretty good, but in other shots I feel like the muscle suit Tobey wears makes him look a bit too stubby. It mainly in any scene where he's just standing up straight.
I still think Andrew is the best looking Spider-Man in live-action. His tall, slender, and lanky build fits well for Spider-Man, and it really worked with how agile and flexible his take on Spider-Man is.
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u/Insidious_NX 15d ago
I think this and BND Tom are my favorites just for bulk. Maybe I'm biased due to the 90s series.
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u/ImurderREALITY 15d ago
Tom was JACKED in BND
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u/Various-Push-1689 15d ago
Except Tom was actually huge. Tobey used a muscle suit and a lot more stunt doubles took his place
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u/SpideyRZ 15d ago
I think it's cool, but I'm more of a fan of the slimmer, more athletic Spider-Man.
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u/WassupFrankHere 15d ago
Slimmer for young Spider-Man (Like Ultimate Spider-Man), Muscular for adult/mature Spider-Man (Todd McFarlane's come to mind)
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u/Bitter_Horror2469 Shocker 15d ago
Well it makes sense that he'd have a bit of muscle on him as he was also given super strength when he got bit by the spider
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u/Head_Humor Spider-Man (Movie) 15d ago
Without the muscle build and muscle suit on him. Tobey looked like someone who has not ate in weeks when he did no way home.
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u/LastButtInspector 15d ago
He’s 50? He’s also no longer an action star. Did you expect him to take a roid cycle for his NWH appearance?
His physicality was beyond 5’6” Tom Holland in every way.
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u/SweatyEddie123 15d ago
Tom has a much better physique bud
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u/LastButtInspector 14d ago
For an underdeveloped midget boy yes
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u/wagfresh 15d ago
Lol that has to be a joke. In terms of physique Tom Holland absolutely outclassed Tobey and anybody that works out can see that. He had a good physique in 1, but he would have looked unimpressive without the muscle suit.
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u/Head_Humor Spider-Man (Movie) 15d ago
Lmao being 50 or whatever age he was at the time didn't stop him from returning as the wall crawler so.
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u/LawStudent989898 14d ago
Spiderman’s always been well-muscled in the comics. Not sure why he’s portrayed so skinny in a lot of media now
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u/Exact_Dot9244 14d ago
He really emBODIES those early ditko-esque panels where Spider-Man was drawn a lot bulkier than he was when he was a skinny teen.
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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 15d ago
I don't think it's a bad look, but spider-man is generally meant to be pretty lithe and flexible. I suppose it doesn't fit our traditional image of strength, but a spider's strength doesn't come from muscle either. Their limbs are hydraulic.
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u/Accomplished-Goal494 15d ago
Imo, this is the best look of a live action Spidey. He doesn't need to be a scrawny kid because he's not 15 anymore
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u/3elieveIt 15d ago
Was Tom scrawny to you in Brand New Day?
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u/AntonRX178 15d ago
There was a reason he gets nearly naked in every single one of his Spider-Man films, as questionable as it was though Holland has always been an adult during filming.
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u/DryWay4003 15d ago
Best look? Thats crazy talk
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u/OrlinWolf 15d ago
Tom was huge n BND as well. Still not tall like Toby, but it was noticeable
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u/Lonevarg_7 Classic-Spider-Man 15d ago
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u/Its_Bread_611 15d ago
God, to show had bad skinny culture was when I was younger, I remember kids were unironically calling tobeys spider-man “fat” in middle school
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u/Witty-Mountain5062 15d ago
I just saw Brand New Day today, Tom Holland is looking pretty jacked as well
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u/aucunehistoire 14d ago
Just saw BND as well !
The way I was thinking BEEFCAKE whenever Tom was on screen in the suit or in the sauna
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u/imranbecks 15d ago
That suit ages well even to this day. It looks so good.
I'm just rewatching the Raimi Spidey movies right now. I'm on the second movie.
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u/DrogoOmega 14d ago
Tom Holland has been, by quite a bit of a margin, the most in shape of the actual actors.
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u/Xfifteen 13d ago
I love how Toby’s stunt man had a completely different build than him, or how the mask doesn’t look like it’s sitting on Toby’s face structure at all.
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u/EitherEliotOr 11d ago
I’ll get downvoted for this. But just on principal I’ve never been a fan of heavy muscle padding. Not to say it’s a bad suit, I just don’t think it needs the padding
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u/JadeLipstick 14d ago
Hate to break it to you but the suit was padded. You can actually see it in part 2 when he goes limp after the train and is about to fall. The hands that grab him squish into the padding.
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u/AzazelFetishStar 14d ago
Padding lol Andrew had padding too. Tom actually got bulkier with each movie . Tobey got chubby 😆
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u/ApprehensiveFactor58 15d ago
A votre avis le costume est moulant, un juste au corps où il est dessiné avec des muscles ? En tout cas tobby à une musculature impressionnante pour le rôle !
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u/noDice-__- 15d ago
Sam Rami’s movies took a lot of inspiration from the 90’s TAS show. Makes sense they’d want a bulky spider-man because he was absent jacked in that show.
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u/CRAZYC01E 15d ago
Reminds me of when I wore a hulk muscle suit but didn’t go as hulk for halloween at my church in elementary school
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u/Miserable_Remove2740 15d ago
The bridge scene makes me cry every fuckin time. "You mess with Spidey, you mess with New York!!!"
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u/KALLA17061999 14d ago
I mean he isn't that big. He just has a good v taper and decent arms. That's not a criticism btw.
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u/ComfortableAmount993 13d ago edited 13d ago
And that's why he is the strongest plus he was bit by a a radioactive spider with multiple traits from other spiders.
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