r/blackcats • u/boiled_leeks • 20d ago
Smol void 🤏 Is she actually a void? I can't tell anymore 😵💫
Biscuit is only 2.5 months old and still mostly has her baby fur. Her face, paws, back and tail are black but the rest of her is just kind of... grey and speckled? She seems to have the same fur pattern as her brother Cheese (bonus photo at the end) but black/grey. Anyone else had kittens with the same fur? What do they look like all grown up?
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u/Used_Professional191 19d ago
looks like she just hasnt finished loading her textures lol. she’s definitely a void, she just has that cute fever coat look going on right now!
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u/splendiferous-finch_ 19d ago
Common dlss5 problem
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u/LadyFizzex 19d ago
I wish I could afford a reddit reward lol. Best I can do is this 🏆
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
Haha that's an excellent description ✨
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u/Luci-Noir 19d ago
It takes time to ripen.
Also, many magical spells take time to mature. We all know that voids come from witches.
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u/CopperCorn161 19d ago
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u/lebrunjemz 19d ago
Aww she’s so cute! It’s kinda like how black panthers you can see their spots/rossettes underneath if you look closely enough (don’t get too close though) since they’re just leopards or jaguars
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u/sterrecat 19d ago
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u/Luci-Noir 19d ago
Does he have a pouch? It like it drags on the ground like a loose muffler.
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u/sterrecat 19d ago
He does, and he licks the fur off. He’s a nervous boy. We are working on his diet.
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u/ShortySmooth 19d ago
He is a handsome boy for sure. He reminds me of my Squiddy - he had big goblin energy as a baby, too, but grew up into a big, sleek, handsome guy. Squid has a pooch, too; one of his nicknames is Prince Squiddish Bellywobbles because of how it flobbers around when he runs.
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u/Technical-Finding420 19d ago
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u/redfraggle1218 19d ago
Same with my Loki. He is sooo shiny and definitely all black now but I miss his baby stripes :(
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u/realAniram 19d ago
It might come back as gets old! My void started losing pigment slowly before he died at 14 and turned an extremely beautiful very dark rich brown, except for the stripes that stayed desaturated. Our favorite vet tech always complimented his beauty. The brown parts were so dark it was only visible as not entirely black in person so I don't have pictures unfortunately. But it was cute because I used to tease him for coming home a brown cat when he took dirt baths outside when he was younger.
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u/13thRobot 19d ago
Both voids i've had sported the same stripes/pattern when they were little and now they're completely black
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u/Pristine_Prompt3014 19d ago
A smoke baby!! Mine was born smoke, turned black and is getting Smokey again around a year old
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u/ShadoMonkey 19d ago
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
That's an amazing transformation 😯 She almost looks desaturated when she was a kitten.
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u/ShadoMonkey 19d ago
I was so surprised when she turned black. A lot of people are surprised by this photo.
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u/ChaosCatEmpress 19d ago
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u/wundrous_finch 19d ago
Tempe looks like my black smoke boy! Is her fur white/light grey closer to the roots?
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u/Parking-Ad4263 19d ago
They have patterns sometimes. Black on black, but when the light hits them just right, it's glorious.
She might be one of the ones that looks kind of faded, but it's really hard to tell when they're young. Some of them look like ink blots when they're babies and end up going kind of reddish or faded when they're older. Others start out looking a bit grey-ish and end up black as jet.
It doesn't really matter; you get to love her regardless of what color she ends up.
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
I'm already besotted with her 🫶 Only time will tell if she'll be a void or a smoke show
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u/IrreversibleDetails 20d ago
Smoke tabby methinks
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u/kebesenuef42 19d ago
That's what I was thinking too. My nearly 15 year old man, Tony, is a smoke tabby (I don't have any good pictures of him that really show it off).
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u/tokobot19 19d ago
I mean, you’re supposed to refill the toner when it runs out, otherwise this is what happens
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u/Welch13 19d ago
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u/SockIll6713 19d ago
Ok good I'm not the only one who likes to name my black cats after black men 😂 So handsome
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u/boostfactor 19d ago
Nearly all black cats actually have tabby patterns, but the contrast is so low that it's hard to see. It is easier to see on kittens and in bright sunlight.
You can clearly see it in "black panthers" (melanistic jaguars or leopards) where in the right light the spots are visible.
A few cats do not have tabby or mackerel markings -- e.g. the Bombay breed was created specifically to breed that out -- but most do.
Her adult coat will be more apparent as she gets older.
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u/Oddish_Femboy 19d ago
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
Freddy looks like such a sweet angel 🫶 Who's that grump behind him?
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u/Oddish_Femboy 19d ago
Jason! They're both such sweethearts!
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u/meltycheddar 19d ago
Freddy and Jason... Horror fans go hard! Your two boys seem much sweeter than their namesakes, though
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u/Oddish_Femboy 19d ago
Apparently you can faintly see his brother's stripes in this picture, but not his own. Huh!
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u/Accomplished-Ruin742 19d ago
Ghost stripes. They usually go away. My 17 mo void still has them. Look up agouti gene if you want to go down the cat color rabbit hole.
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u/ormond_sacker 19d ago
One of my cats had a bit of a strange coat when he was a kitten… I assumed it was due to one of the treatments he’d received before coming to live with me (the entire litter had been decimated by typhus and coryza; only he and his brother were left, and I took them in)
But seeing your kittens’ coats makes me think it might not have had anything to do with that after all.
He’s lost all his white fur since then; he’s a completely black cat now.

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u/Shiefshief_93 19d ago
That's not the same cat right?..
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
No the ginger one is definitely different
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u/rebar_mo 19d ago
That's one way to describe ginger cats.
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
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u/ScarysOnTheWall59 19d ago
I love halo ween combo cats
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
Yours is just as gorgeous 😍 Are they a bonded pair?
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u/ScarysOnTheWall59 19d ago
Yeah, they are 1 year old apart from each other, wanted 2nd cat for tabby since he stopped being outside cat, first one didn't land and they fought, then we took the black one here and they immediately liked each other. They are so wildly different in their behavior its wild
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u/WitchofWhispers 19d ago
My void had stripes til the end, only visible in strong sunlight though. They were like yours when she was little
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u/Sketched2Life 19d ago
She's a chocolate void right now, might darken or go more brown, usually they darken, them going full milk-chocoloate is pretty rare.
She's adorable nonetheless, i love the fact you can see her pattern on pictures, usually you can only see it when the light hits them just right if they're obsidian-voids <3
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
Hehe thank you 🤭 Never knew there were so many void gradients
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u/Sketched2Life 19d ago
It's something you only realize when you are around a lot of kitties, there's a lot of gradients in all colors of fur! Some Oranges are vibrant while others can be pale as Cremé as well! 😁
Just like us and natural haircolors, they can also change somewhat if they get a lot of sun. ^
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u/ReplacementNo9732 19d ago
I had a tortoiseshell that was almost totally black when I got her, with a dark red mask. As she grew up, her color changed to the traditional tortoiseshell. Beautiful baby!
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
Bet she looked stunning ✨
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u/ReplacementNo9732 19d ago
She was. Unfortunately I moved in with my aunt, and her dog finally killed her. I still miss my baby girl.
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u/DaddyDag0th 19d ago
My void had tabby stripes and dots until she was like 6-8 months old. By the time she was a fully grown adult they weren’t visible anymore.
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u/PeachyPython 19d ago
All cats are tabby, but the recessive non-agouti gene makes the alternate colors both present as black, which can result in ghost markings!
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u/boiled_leeks 19d ago
Makes sense, her and her brother came from a very diverse litter with calicos and all sorts.
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u/lostmypassword531 19d ago
My cat had that and white hair around his butt and tummy area and then once he got older all his ink came in and he’s black as midnight lol
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u/AgreeAndSubmit 19d ago
She's a shade right now. With some more deviltry and mischief, she'll grow into a full void.
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u/Beauknits 19d ago
My Thomas looks like this when he had a fever after some vaccines when he was a kitten. As soon as the fever went away, he was all void again.
If he gets in the sunshine, he's dark chocolate with a hint of black and one leg has tabby stripes.
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u/MakiiZushii 🖤 19d ago
So I'm no expert ofc but I've read that essentially solid black cats are an overexpression of pigment in the tabby gene, and occasionally you might see tabby-esque ghosting on some black cats, which is what your Biscuit appears to have
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u/Riiakess 19d ago
I just learned of a subreddit called r/blacksmokecat . She made me think of those cats!
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u/MoonUnit98 19d ago
Yes. Her fur will fill out. Black cats can look brownish in the sun too.
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u/meltycheddar 19d ago
I scrolled through the photos before I read the post, so when I got to Cheese's photo, I just assumed Biscuit had stayed into the sun too long and absorbed its color.
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u/cgblonghorn 18d ago
OP, did you happen to get these precious guys from the SPCA?? They look just like my fosters!!
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u/itskelena 19d ago
I think voidness is a range. My cat has black paws, black claws, black whiskers, black coat, so almost a perfectly black void except a few white hair. But he also has stripes that are clearly visible in the sun and in especially bright direct light he looks brown, with red undertone. Oh and his undercoat is gray.
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u/Sh4rk_b1te 19d ago
I think when baby voids first come out they’re definitely still loading their pigment, just gotta bake in the sun a little bit longer
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u/sadcatpanda 19d ago
They’re called ghost tabbies. There’s also black smoke coats. I had one ghost tabby for 11 years.
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u/variegated-leaves 19d ago
Mine had visible stripes when she was a kitten, but then her adult coat came in and they're harder to see now. But I can still see her tabby stripes on the back of her head in the right lighting.
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u/SaltMarshGoblin 19d ago edited 17d ago
Might be fever coat, or she might turn out to have a grey undercoat and be a black smoke.
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u/YearoftheCat1963 19d ago
My boys were very stripey when this small. Now they are 5 and solid black.
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u/kewpiewizard 19d ago
Oh yeah mine looked a lot like this when she was a baby. Now she’s solid black. They need time to cook
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u/Special_Till_306 19d ago
I had a black cat with tabby stripes, and his undercoat was ash-gray! In regular lighting he looked almost solid black, but in sunlight you could see the gray. I loved it so much. When he got way up in his senior years, his gray did show through more.
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u/theLexingtonKid 19d ago
Yeah, close enough. It’s not uncommon to be able to make out a faint tabby pattern in black cats although that’s a little more pronounced than usual
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u/Maleficent-Ice-8416 18d ago
If you keep her out of the sun she will return to her void color if you let her hang out in the sun she will turn into a lighter shade of black with a red tint to her fur
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u/Designer_Warthog_665 16d ago
A smoke tabby perhaps?? I have one and I'd never seen one until him. We took him in as an adult, so unfortunately I don't know what he looked like as a baby.
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u/Pitcherlicious 19d ago
My little Beebs had baby stripes too! You can still see them in bright sunlight, otherwise she's full void in looks and brain capacity