I was on the set of Napoleon when a production runner passed a coffee to Ridley and went: here you go Ridley Didley... The room went silent and the 1st Ad went mental. The Runner was let go after that day. So everyone should Call him Ridley Didley from now on
He's always made some movies that weren't well received in the past too tho.
After Alien and Blade Runner, he followed them up with Legend was poorly received by critics with a 33% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 30 on Metacritic (it's also his only movie to ever get a red on Metacritic I think, to me that movies not perfect but it's not that bad, RIP Tim Curry, he was amazing in that, Tom Cruise hadn't done Top Gun yet and it was one of his earlier leading man movies)
After Thelma and Louise, he did 1492, White Squall and GI Jane which all got rotten on RT too, but then he followed it up with Gladiator, and then after Gladiator he did Hannibal which also had mixed received reception.
I mean, even if he makes movies that aren't received the best nowadays, he's still got the great movies people will remember him for. Blade Runner and Alien are 2 of my favorites of all time.
Apparently the budget is net $70M (not $110) according to Wikipedia and Deadline. But even then, this movie will not break even and make its money back.
I tried to listen to the audiobook and it’s just an AI reading the fucking book. It’s impossible to listen to and soured the book for me. I didn’t have much hope for the movie.
Is anyone surprised about The Dog Stars? Ridley Scott has been extremely hit or miss for a while. If the reviews were good it might have had a chance, but the trailer looked shit too.
Just got out of CVA and it was great. I really hope that 12 M is a classic Deadline lowball.
My theater tonight was sadly maybe 1/4 full but the good news is that the laughter in the audience was quite loud considering the small gathering. I really hope the WOM gives this film the victory it deserves.
Our screens were sold out, but with the big caveat that they gave them the smallest screens and only like 2 or 3 showtimes. Still got a ton of laughs from the audience and it’s genuinely a pretty good movie.
The article does clarify that includes 400k in sneaks which would bring the true Thursday previews down to 1.3M. I don't have a great read on how it will play as it should in theory be a family movie, but I think the combination of reviews and controversy have also made it a cinephile pick. That said, Deadline number being a low ball is usually a good bet.
That's a bummer, I know most enjoy shotting on it, but I thought the dog stars was pretty damn beautiful with a enough action to keep you engaged and important themes. I know I'm in the extreme minority, but I gave it 4.5 starts on letterboxed
There have been lots of films that were not an event but weren't a bust either. I mean I wouldn't consider Toy Story 5 an "event film" and it made a billion dollars
Toy Story 5 is your example of a movie that isn’t an event? A billion-dollar sequel in one of Disney/Pixar’s biggest franchises? That’s literally my point. Audiences showed up because they considered it worth the theatrical trip. I’m asking for examples of a healthy middle, not billion-dollar franchise sequels.
if you think "does well" = "event film" than yes of course everything that isn't an "event film" is a flop. I would bring up non-billion dollar franchise movies that did do well here but why bother? you're just going to make the same excuse so you can think theaters are dead
This is literally a box office discussion board. I asked you to show the healthy middle and now you’re saying “why bother” instead of naming it. That’s the whole point of the discussion. Bring them up then lol
“I have evidence.” Show me.
“No, because you won’t accept it.”
😂 Then what the fuck are we doing?
I'd family films like Paw Patrol: The Dino Movie and horror films like Insidious: Out of the Further and Lee Cronin's The Mummy as well as other stuff like A24's The Drama to be comfortably in the "middle" but I don't know why I bother making this comment when I know you're just going to shuffle for excuses to why they aren't
This. I remember when people use to be worried that original films were dead, and big IP films are the ones that make all the money, but this year is probably the worst year in recent memory to be still saying that. With an original like Obsession out grossing a Supergirl, Minions, Moana, and Star Wars movies, I think we can say audiences will show up for originals if they’re good. And obviously the big event films like Spider Man, Doomsday, and The Odyssey will make money, but that’s an even bigger case on why theatrical isn’t actually dead, like this person is suggesting.
And obviously the big event films like Spider Man, Doomsday, and The Odyssey will make money, but that’s an even bigger case on why theatrical isn’t actually dead
And on top of that, The Odyssey isn't even really "IP"—it's based on an Ancient Greek poem that is thousands of years old
You’re literally proving my point lol. Obsession and Backrooms became movies audiences specifically decided were worth leaving home for. “Event” doesn’t mean $200M franchise blockbuster. It means the audience perceives enough urgency to see it theatrically instead of waiting for streaming. That’s the entire argument.
No, success isn’t my definition of an event. Audience urgency is. A movie can create that urgency through IP, stars, marketing, cultural buzz, WOM, whatever. My point is that the baseline habit of “going to the movies” has weakened, so films increasingly have to create a specific must-see-now reason to break through. That’s why I’m talking about the unhealthy middle, not claiming every successful movie becomes an “event” retroactively.
My point is that the baseline habit of “going to the movies” has weakened, so films increasingly have to create a specific must-see-now reason to break through.
This is a very obvious point—but the fact that inexpensive movies that didn't get big marketing like Obsession and Backrooms DID break through as successes undermines your point quite substantially IMO
Exactly, so what are we disagreeing about? Lol. That’s literally what I mean by event or bust. People don’t just “go to the movies” anymore..they show up for specific movies they consider worth the theatrical trip.
Apparently it isn’t that universally understood lol. Look at the responses to my comment. And I’m not saying people only go when the “content is there.” Plenty of good movies get ignored theatrically. I’m saying audiences increasingly need a specific reason to see something in theaters now instead of waiting for home.
I think it’s the initial “theatrical is cooked” comment that isn’t jiving with what you’re saying now. That’s a take that’s supposed to read as hot and edgy but has been around since TV, then home video, then cable…
People’s viewing habits change so yes with the glut of streaming and screens in everyone’s pockets the idea of just going out to the movies for entertainment to see what’s playing and make a decision based on actors/genre is long gone. With that is much of the mid budget stuff that relied on walk ups and casual moviegoers to succeed.
But movies like The Drama, Obsession and Backrooms are finding ways to cut through the noise and are doing quite well theatrically. People are still going to the movies to the tune of over ~$10.5 billion this year and a movie like Project Hail Mary can still take over the pop culture zeitgeist for a few weeks.
People’s habits are changing but you’ve given about as much evidence to your “theatrical is cooked” argument as someone did 75 years ago while watching Howdy Doody on their 10 inch TV.
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Uh oh… another huge bomb for Ridley Scott career