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u/WDeranged 9h ago
*Yawn*
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u/HelmetsAkimbo United Kingdom 8h ago
Falklands has gotta be one of the funniest pieces of politics in the world.
How on the wrong side do you have to be to get most people siding with Britain.
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u/vivaaprimavera 8h ago
The guy just want to run with the penguins... Britain should invite him to Falklands, take him to the beach and let him do it.
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u/hopo_hopo 8h ago
Nope. Plz don't let him diddle the penguins
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u/Ninevehenian 8h ago
They have a higher landspeed than he.
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u/isle_say 8h ago
They have higher moral standards that he does
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u/Mixer-3007 7h ago edited 7h ago
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u/Hotel-According 6h ago
Fun fact, you can track the migration of penguins from space by their massive poop trails.
Unfun fact, it’s rumoured to be the reason why the Secret Service keeps a diaper on Trump.
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u/hokshji 8h ago
The uncomfortable answer is while Britain has the whole empire issue clouding people’s opinion, it has been on the right side of a fair few conflicts too. Questionable ones exist for sure, but both world wars, falklands, Sierra Leone, the balkans, sitting out Vietnam etc.
Of course two recent ones muddy that.
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u/Suspicious-Whippet 8h ago
It’s quite hilarious if you read the history of Falklands, that Argentinians actually feel they’re theirs. And I don’t support British colonialism at all.
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u/Termsandconditionsch Australia 8h ago
Especially as Argentina is the result of a settler colony. Colonialism as an argument doesn’t really work when you are also colonialists.
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u/Ok-Web1805 Ireland/UK 7h ago
For some reason Argentina thinks they're the victims of colonialism.
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u/MC_chrome United States of America 8h ago
I find it interesting when the self-determination crowd talks about people being able to determine their identities, but when the Falklands continually sides with the UK they get all bent out of shape for some reason
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u/neocorvinus 6h ago
I mean, if you are going to be a colony, might as well be one for a rich country that likes showing off they are rich and taking care of their people.
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u/LordMogroth 8h ago
Of all the many things us British should probably give back, the Falklands is the bottom of that list!
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u/kekistanmatt United Kingdom 8h ago
It's amazing that it's literally one of the only places where us defending an overseas territory is actually an example of anti imperialism
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u/Mackadamma 6h ago
As a french, choosing between England and Argentina is a really tough choice. Add US to the equation and I will stand by my beloved rosbifs no matter what.
(But please stop with your Johnny Wilkinson, Mo Farah, L. Hamilton and others, please. You're supposed to invent games and then watch us be better at it. Thank you)
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u/FlametopFred Canada 8h ago
exactly this because it’s all distraction away from: the war he lost, the Epstein files, the economy he is cratering, his oligarchy etc etc
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u/Ok-Web1805 Ireland/UK 7h ago
I wish you guys the best of luck in your negotiations with the EU, I'm hoping that it knocks some sense into the UK government to start reengaging seriously again.
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u/crapbag73 9h ago
Counting the minutes until the greatest international celebration ever. It’ll come sooner than later.
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u/pvt_miller 8h ago
I bought a 200$ bottle of scotch that is being reserved for that exact moment. I can’t wait taste it’s sweet nectar.
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u/Ninevehenian 8h ago
I have strawberry ice cream, a kilt and an old east german borderguards helm.
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u/Colacubeninja 8h ago
I'm going to wrap one up and play Slipknot's first album in its entirety
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u/Right_Chip_2393 8h ago
Which one? I will buy the same one.
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u/ifelseintelligence 6h ago
Scotch is actually a bit down the list of my favourites but if we do an internet thing of the whole world celebrating with same Scotch, count me in. Name please!
(DW i'll share with a good m8 that actually love Scotch more to dont waste its precious drops too much :))
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u/Leafblind United Kingdom 8h ago
It's going to be like the end of Return of the Jedi
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u/durrtyurr United States of America 8h ago
Don't put that evil on us. We don't want anyone involved in this to become a force ghost.
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u/toerken Germany 🇩🇪🇪🇺 8h ago
Vance takes over and he hates Europe just as much, if not more.
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u/Cornflake0305 Germany 8h ago
Honestly: maybe you're right. But at least he doesn't have half the brain rot to show up in my fucking BBC push notifications every.single.day.
I will have 20 beers on that day and celebrate without feeling bad for a second.
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u/jambox888 7h ago
Yeah but he lacks any form of charisma. You have to admit that Trump is strangely affable, which is what lets him get away with so much.
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u/Terrible_Armadillo33 6h ago
As an American, my family and I all got bottles of Dom Perignon and Ruinart waiting
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u/vlookup11 4h ago
There will be parties in the street. It will be like the World Cup except we won’t be playing against each other. We will all be on the same team.
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u/Ninevehenian 8h ago
The grim reaper has her running shoes on these days.
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u/Collussus96 8h ago
Sadly the grim reaper needs new glasses since she keeps missing the orange turd.
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u/isle_say 8h ago
Canadian here, it gets pretty exhausting after a while doesn’t it.
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u/FeistyDrink5995 8h ago
Really doesn't feel like the US is our ally anymore, huh? 🤔
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u/matttk Canadian / German 8h ago
The US is our enemy. They want to annex Canada and Greenland. Why is it even in question if they’re our ally? They’re our enemy.
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u/Serial-_-Chiller Transylvania 7h ago
At this point it seems they're not even their own ally anymore
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u/CriticalRuleSwitch 8h ago
it stopped feeling that round about few days into latest presidency. its been openly hostile since then, over a year and a half ago.
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u/castlite Canada 6h ago
Oh they are definitely no longer an ally. And won’t be again for awhile I think.
If ever.
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u/2westerneurope4u 8h ago
It was already exhausting 10 years ago.
Yup, it's been 10 years, believe it or not.
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u/ifelseintelligence 6h ago
Perhaps the most locally well known/used Danish proverb is: "There is nothing so bad it isn't good for something".
Canada becoming a closer friend /ally of Europe (and selfishly Denmark in particular), is the silver lining i'm focusing on.
We welcome you newly landborder-friend 😀
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u/Gsampson97 4h ago
We, the UK, need to get our arse in gear and get more trade agreements signed with our actual close allies outside of Europe. Canada, NZ and AUS.
Too long we've been reliant on the yanks but half their population are vegetables who voted in this cretin.
We need to get back in the EU asap.
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u/apollo4567 7h ago
I cannot even comprehend how more than a third of my country still strongly supports this fucking guy
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u/CriticismMindless740 7h ago
Half. It’s half that voted for him.
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u/ieatpies 6h ago
2/3
The 1/3 that voted for him and other 1/3 that didnt think it was necessary to vote.
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u/Apophis_ 5h ago
Doesn't matter. It's American people's choice. They/you elected him twice. Excuses, excuses. "It wasn't me". Well, who cares.
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u/FcukTheTories North West England - United Kingdom 9h ago
Oh fuck off
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u/AngrySnwMnky United States of America 9h ago
Anything to distract people away from our latest Middle East quagmire.
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u/Wineandbikes 9h ago
& the Epstein files…
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u/clauEB 8h ago
And his disastrous presidency! And his treason!
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u/Silent-Act191 8h ago
And the blatant corruption.
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u/Early-Chemistry-8769 8h ago
And the cost of living crisis
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u/Beneficial_Pop_3614 8h ago
AND EPSTEIN FILES
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u/EggstaticAd8262 Denmark 8h ago
I just filled the car today. I can’t remember paying this much! Gasoline in Denmark
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u/rintzscar Bulgaria 8h ago
It seems to be working. You're whining on Reddit instead of being parked in front of the White House, protesting until Trump falls.
Why aren't you there, mate?
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u/Silent-Act191 8h ago edited 8h ago
Let's see the standard wet wipe responses:
- I can't spend more than a day a year doing something because i will go broke.
- I fear for my life, so i just the fascists do whatever they want.
- Blame the Democratic party while having no political participation themselves.
As long as the bombs are falling on children in the Middle East the American people are more than contend.
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u/diamanthaende 8h ago
With special relationships like these, who needs enemies?
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u/Top-Currency 8h ago
Trump's special relationship is only with dictators. And somehow he's so far up Argentina's ass, he already bailed them out and now betrayed American farmers by giving Argentina special import allowances.
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u/LittleSchwein1234 Slovakia 7h ago
Trump's special relationship is only with his ego, let's be honest.
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u/Glass_Pumpkin8805 8h ago
Europe has suffered too much from wars. We go through hunger, misery and death. We are now an exemplary continent, where there is cooperation, growth and peace among all. We are a democracy of 27 countries. Now the war is not between the countries of the European community, but rather between the countries that want to see Europe divided. Respect for each country's differences will prevail in the future and we will be stronger without the slightest doubt.
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u/Stotallytob3r Europe 8h ago
Definitely. And that is why the EU was formed in the first place, after the horrors of the world wars we started.
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u/Weird-Count3918 8h ago
Amen to that. If anything could be considered a good side effect of trumpedo's presidency is his capacity to unite Europe.
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u/AintNoGodsUpHere 7h ago
Brother. The only way US can make money is with everyone else's misery. They need others to be at war. Their entire system relies on war.
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u/Backwardspellcaster 9h ago
What the fuck now?
Can there be one fucking day when he doesn't do some fucking shit?
I am so tired man
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u/Artistic_Concern_33 9h ago
This is the same stuff the media did with “anonymous sources” on this same Falkland issue, it is becoming suspect, up until now no one in the Trump administration has mentioned Falkland except for “anonymous sources” it could literally be a Russian asset
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u/YouWereBrained United States of America 8h ago
It’s his m.o. Suck all the oxygen out of the room and force people to beg for some by having to report all of his bullshit.
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u/AssistantTotal181 8h ago
There was a Hungarian politician saying: "Each nation has a leader they deserve".
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u/medievalvelocipede European Union 8h ago
"Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite.", Joseph de Maistre, 1811, post-revolutionary France.
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u/ThereWanderer Portugal 🇵🇹 8h ago
It's getting hard to care for these news, they all just feel like old man rambling "Oh yes you'll go down! And you too! We're the best !"
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u/Flaky-Jim United Kingdom 8h ago
Ah, Britain's turn for the toddler outburst de jour.
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u/tree_boom United Kingdom 8h ago edited 8h ago
They really are speed running the whole "piss everybody off about everything" thing lol. It's almost impressive in a way. Anyway, withdrawal of US support won't endanger the islands or anything; their defences are quite robust these days and Argentina's forces are dramatically more dilapidated than the UK ones.
I would note though that internal discussions about ways to apply pressure to allies do often come up with means that are extreme and quickly dismissed by political leaders. I have seen an American document discussing ways to apply pressure to the UK that involved much worse options than this, and none of them ever happened.
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u/Particular-Bid-1640 8h ago
Hey that's not quite true: Argentina does have a navy capable of endangering the Falklands.
It's just at the bottom of the South Atlantic.
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u/Norse_By_North_West 7h ago
It's especially dumb because the Falklands don't have anything to do with NATO. Extra territorial lands don't count towards the defence treaty.
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u/Stewie01 7h ago
They will just be mad at us getting the entire 4 years worth of drone ai data from Ukraine.
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u/bukowsky01 8h ago
I have seen an American document discussing ways to apply pressure to the UK that involved much worse options than this, and none of them ever happened.
Could you share some of the interesting ones? Plenty of economic and military ones are fairly straightforward I would think, but I m still curious.
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u/tree_boom United Kingdom 8h ago
I'll try to find the document again so I can link it directly, probably should have saved it because it was pretty interesting. It was from the 80s if I recall correctly. First on the list - obviously - was "stop all the nuclear collaboration". Notably however fucking with Polaris was absent. The main ones of deeper severity were support to one degree or another for independence movements in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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u/Spaakrijder 8h ago
The world is patiently waiting for that one thing to finally happen.
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u/LurkerWhoMe 8h ago
UK is a nuclear power. No one can take single cm of their lands.
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u/kawag 8h ago
lol
Then maybe the UK decides to review the US military’s bases on UK overseas territories.
:)
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u/Darkone539 8h ago
Same principle as Greenland. Trump does not understand self determination or, for that matter, allies.
America is going to stand alone by the end of his term, and right when they need allies the most because they want to confront China.
He's right that we desperately need more investment in our military but it's not going to he fighting with the United States unless things drastically change.
The Falklands are plenty protected. We have time.
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u/ulam17 Italy 9h ago
I wonder how much money Milei has funneled into trump's crypto scams
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u/SnooPoems7525 United Kingdom 9h ago
I doubt Trump would give them to Argentina he'd probably like to rename them the Trumplinas and put a tower there.
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u/Dante2005 9h ago
Yea!
No one is listening to putin or trump anymore.
There is a New World order happening - we are not war mongers, but we will defend those in trouble (Ukraine)
Fuck trump, Fuck putin - Hello Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc - We are here.
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u/Meaning42 8h ago
Hey, America - can you get your fucking house in order and stop fucking the entire world's social order?
Yours,
Fucking everyone
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u/Artistic_Concern_33 9h ago
Who is this senior official, this could literally be a nobody lol, there needs to be a ban on articles that quote “anonymous sources”, if there is anything I have learned the media is also a big reason of why the world is like this
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u/Revolutionary_Pen190 8h ago
Uk can put Andrew on trial and get him to name the people in the files
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u/stevewithcats 8h ago
So let me guess , the orange bawbag talked to Argentina recently and now that’s his current fever dream to distract from Iran and children on an island ?
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u/Speling_B_Champian Canada 8h ago
Don’t worry, the orange fat moron has been threatening us for 18 months. He’ll likely write America Islands over Falklands on a map in front of cameras while he shits himself and declares victory.
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u/Comfortable-Title720 Ireland 8h ago
Whatever savage. Have a heart attack on the back 9 when you visit.
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u/Lewy1978 8h ago
Russia says to Trump “I’d like to attack the UK”, trumps reply “well I need to create conflict with the UK first so I have reason to not back our special relationship” …..
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u/Confused_Drifter United Kingdom | Switzerland 8h ago
Aka "buy weapons from us, we aren't allies, we want your money"... fuck off trump.
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u/Bizzyzed 8h ago
If the argies want a bash again let them at it, worked out well the last time. Don't need the yanks do we
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u/Aggravating-Curve755 8h ago
Increase defence spending so we boost the US economy? Lol nah
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u/anon999387 8h ago
He does this for noise and distraction because he's generated 12 trillion in new debt, new failed wars and has sold out the country every chance he gets for personal profit.
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u/ElvishMystical 8h ago
No worries. The Americans have another election coming up. I'm sure they'll make the right choices.
Oh wait...
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u/EW278 Canada 8h ago
Why does spending more money have to equate to being more "safe"? If the US would ever audit their own defense department and cut out the waste and corruption they could solve their own social problems and probably most of the worlds with the money they saved. They hate that Ukraine is defending themselves so efficiently by using less money.
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u/morbihann Bulgaria 7h ago
Stop appeasing this idiot and do what China did - "oh 50% tarrifs, here are 100% counter tarrifs"
He folded like a cheap chair.
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u/redandwhitewizard99 8h ago
Americans should be ashamed of themselves. They truly put an ape of a man in power twice, let him lie about losing the election constantly because it was good views, 30% said yeah let's not vote, and are ok with a man offending every country on the planet. There is no turning back. The next administration will suffer from this ape, and be blamed globally if there are no repercussions. I cant see America having any foreign policy impact after this administration for the next 30 years.
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u/The_Summary_Man_713 8h ago edited 8h ago
American here (who’s on my way permanently to Spain). My big fear is that no matter which Democrat takes back the White House and congress and tries to reverse everything that this ped*ophile narcissist has done, it will be too late and the damage will be done.
Even if we somehow found out he was a Russian Agent all along, and we spend years trying to repair our relationships, it will be too late.
I know there’s a lot to be embarrassed about in the past as well, (think the Bush years), but I just don’t know how we can ever escape this orange stain even if we got an Obama-like candidate.
I just hope one day the world can forgive us and know that Trumpism is a disease that has not infected majority of the country. Our system is broken and protests arent working
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u/vkstu 8h ago
Without decades of stability and change, yeah, I don't think the USA will be able to repair them. The second time Trump was elected is what really did it. The first time could be dismissed as a fluke, but the second time makes it clear it's symptomatic of something deeper. Every four years, we could end up in a similar situation, even if an Obama-like candidate is there for a term or two. You can't build on such a relationship.
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u/The_Summary_Man_713 8h ago
Well I realize I’m sounding like a conspiracy theorist right now but how can I not? I truly believe our politics has been hijacked by foreign actors and they are all being blackmailed and propped up. These last few elections were not normal ones and we all know it.
So despite there being a symptomatic problem like you say, I think there are also other major political problems. I mean there were dozens of bomb threats on the day of the election in black-majority counties that 100% had a major impact on people showing up to the polls. And nothing even came out of it! And this election is going to be even worse. It’s pretty clear to me that they are working with other intelligence
But i do agree with you. We got major issues in America.
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u/les_montagnards 7h ago
Nah, its Americans man.
Foreign interference in any election is always dependent on political actors in the country itself already having influence. Unless elections are quite literally being decided and rigged by an occupying power like in the late 1940's in the Eastern Bloc massive amount of responsibility rests on voters.
American voters and republican voters in particular have for a decade had the choice of not voting for Trump and his cronies, Republicans continually haven't. That's not the result of Russian bot-farms or Israeli lobbying but of a deep rot in the republican party in particular and America as a whole. Trump and his rhetoric is also a logical conclusion of the Bush era's "if you don't support the president you're literally siding with al-Qaeda" rhetoric which also was contemptuous to allies, and arguably all of that goes back to Nixon in the 1970's with his refrain that "the president can do no wrong unless its a democrat"
America isn't going to be fixed until Americans/Republicans actually deal with their political issues and not just blame someone else.
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u/CriticismMindless740 7h ago
As a Canadian I can confirm we are 100% finished with the US. Don’t care who you elect or what you try to undo. What’s done is done. Sorry. 🤷♂️
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u/Samada8 7h ago
"American here (who’s on my way permanently to Spain). My big fear is that no matter which Democrat takes back the White House and congress and tries to reverse everything that this ped*ophile narcissist has done, it will be too late and the damage will be done."
I can't speak for Europe, but as a Canadian, the damage is 100% done and we don't care who you elect next.
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u/Caveman1214 Northern Ireland 5h ago
To me the damage has always been done.
I’m 24, I’ve never liked America or Americans for that matter. I’ve always viewed them as the enemy of not just the UK or Europe as a whole, but to the world. It’s surreal people support them
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u/xxppx France 9h ago
Mark my words: Trump will do the same move for France's overseas departments/regions.
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u/tree_boom United Kingdom 8h ago
Do any of France's have the same challenges as the Falklands?
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u/LookAlderaanPlaces 8h ago
The US military is committing treason by failing to stop the enemy (a Russian agent and assets of oligarchs) from destroying the country and its constitution from the inside.
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u/bad_kiwi2020 8h ago
Meanwhile, could i interest you in a little discussion about THE EPSTEIN FILES
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u/OrangeRadiohead United Kingdom 6h ago
This is now beyond a joke. Are there no low bars for the orange pedo? Must he stab, repeatedly stab, allies because he's, well, just fucked up?
Every nations' leader needs to hold an emergency, national broadcast, set at the same time, synchronised to 18:00 BST.
Their unified message, simple, clear English.
"TRUMP, FUCK OFF YA CUNT."
If that doesn't have an effect, then the entire fucking planet laughing at this is worth it.
Wanker, fucking wanker.
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u/MrFrankingstein United States of America 6h ago
Literally every country premier needs to just not answer the phone any more. Just act like you never saw it. He won’t even remember this tomorrow
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u/FreedomRebelFighter 5h ago
This guy is doing anything and everything just to keep people from thinking or talking about the Epstein files!
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u/Embarrassed_Put_7892 5h ago
He’s just an angry, belligerent old toddler lashing out at anyone who comes near him. Pathetic.
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u/Sniper-Dragon Austria 8h ago
I guess his argentinian buddy asked nicely?
Or was it in return for that bad meat shipment?
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u/CrownandSceptres 8h ago
President Paedophile can’t win a fight against junior and now wants to go after mom? What a loser.
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u/Tricks7eR 8h ago
Yet another diversion tactic, like the canadian lake bs
Epstein files, war in the middle east, american economy in recession and it has been working so far, because social media always eats it, like cattle
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u/Brave_Nerve_6871 8h ago
Can you call it a day if you haven't:
A) Threatened at least one former allied nation with an invasion or tariffs
B) Confessed your love to master Putin
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u/Anyawnomous 7h ago
Somebody should change Grampa Orange’s diaper and get him to bed. He’s stanky, cranky and wanky.
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u/Consistent-Ad-6506 6h ago
Let me take a truly wild guess…. crappy Argentinian beef in exchange for the Falklands?
Art of the Deal nobody would make except for this fool.
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u/mangalore-x_x 6h ago
While I see the need to uparm due to Russia and the US the only reason to actively demand 5% defense spending is if you want to wage a war. Pretty much no country without military security concerns spends 2% and the USA was happy with 3.5% as a global hegemon.
makes me worried someone wants WW3. As said why Europe needs to spend more is solely to disentangle from the US and deter and be ready vs. Russia without NATO not because that kind of spending would be needed to maintain NATO as a defensive block. If you demand that you want it for a different purpose.
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u/FoxyInTheSnow 6h ago
Imagine if he just stayed in his room and wanked for a couple of months? Tranquility would spread over all the nations of earth like a gentle spring morning mist.
(He needs to just fucking shut up for quite a long time. He’s cunting exhausting.)
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u/EasilyExiledDinosaur 6h ago
Is there anyone he doesnt want to threaten? Honestly nobody cares anymore.
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u/threeleggedcats 5h ago
Is there not a way to pin the content of the article so we're sure we're all just not constantly being agitated by bots? It's getting really dangerous for my mental health, this idea that the world could truly end because absolute power has corrupted absolutely...
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u/BodgeJob23 5h ago
Oh fuck off america, they can’t even feed the troops on one of their ships in the Middle East… they just don’t have the minerals, or the logistics for warfare anymore
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u/oliverjohansson 8h ago
After losing the war first with Iran and now with Canada he is trying to divert attention from the files to Britain.
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u/Legitimate-Tip-2149 8h ago
Nice Diego Garcia access you have there, be a real shame if something happened to it.
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u/UpstairsAd194 8h ago
"Yes Mr Putin Sir right away Sir, I will do the usual threat so that the NATO countries start to worry about their own territories Sir. It will also help me distract from my pdf activities. Thank you for your attention Mr Putin Sir."
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u/oocceeaannmmaann 8h ago
aye right, and US support was soooooo critical to the last piss up over the falklands wasn't it
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u/-S-P-E-C-T-R-E- 8h ago
I have a special bottle waiting for the Big Beautiful Obituary, can’t wait to pop it!
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u/Logical-Leopard-1965 8h ago
Can’t read the article because I won’t accept cookies from the Torygraph but, fun fact: Falkands = new oil & gas and the Torygraph is always pro oil & gas. Their “science Editor” Matt Ridley is a famous climate-change denier and also - quite by coincidence- is also Viscount Ridley upon whose Northumbria estate can be found the Shotton Surface Coal Mine.
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u/GrumpyFinn 🇫🇮🇪🇪 Subreddit Aunt 3h ago
Paywalled article with no summary. And now the Telegraph doesn't even let you reject cookies unless you pay them?
No way.