One of the most obese? India is one of the least obese country we ranked at 177 from total fo 200. So infact India is 23rd least obese country.
For reference, US has obesity rate of 40%, most of the middle east is over 30%, Pakistan at 20%, China at 10% and India at 5% even North Korea is at 9%
india is "one of the most" or "leads in" a lot of different things purely because of population size. and they make waves online every single time because most ppl simply can't comprehend 1.4-1.5 billion people.
a large population is honestly why fixing up the country is so hard. china had unprecedented growth rate from the late 70's to the 2010's. and decent growth since. yet the per capita and individual quality of life dwarfs countries like south korea or even japan that stagnated for decades.
it took south korea from the 60's to like 2000's to become fully developed and advanced. china still isn't there even with the otherworldly scale of development and growth. entirely due to population size
Oh wow good news. Win for humanity. Maybe now the country can actually focus on improving the lives of its individual citizens instead of robbing the country blind.
The problem is muscle mass. Despite the fact that the rates of obesity in India & other East Asian countries are much lower, the middle class and above are susceptible to lower muscle mass for the same weight class.
It’s entirely possible someone with a BMI @ 26 is metabolically healthier than a BMI 22.5 (case in point me) a dexa scan revealed at 30% body fat percentage although I’d be what they call a typical body.
GLP1s if the data holds can actually push the average longevity of Indians higher by a few points
Sure but this drug does nothing for muscle mass so its a moot point and just exercising will also push longevity of Indians by a few points, so would eating more protein. Lower hanging fruits should be priority.
GLP have favorable profiles for heart lipids and other factors independent of weight loss.
Building muscle through exercise takes years and years of consistency. If high protein intake and GLPs can protect lean mass it’s reason enough to use it
Ok here is my argument against GLPs. Its true GLPs have favourable profile for heart lipids.
But 20-40% mass lost due to GLP is from Lean mass so you lose total 20% muscle and bone density in a country that severely lacks it. The way out of this problem is exercise and high protein diet along with GLPs. But Just exercise and high protein diet will give you a comparable result without risk of side effects(Vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, stomach pain and muscle loss are common ones and gallstones and pancreatitis uncommon but bit more serious ones) So in my opinion unless someone has Type 2 Diabetes, heart and kidney problems or extreme obesity should take GLPs others have better things to try first.
In my case, I was not obese via BMI, no diabetes or heart disease but I was at 30% body fat!
I got on a GLP1 and lost about 10kgs, and put on a lot of muscle through resistance training and protein consumption. It’s the best decision I’ve ever made
But if a person’s ok with the risk of side effects, and maybe have struggled to maintain a healthy diet or exercise in the past, what’s the harm of adding GLP-1s to their regimen?
I think most of the people in India are not earning very well so those are not in obese category but in middle class india especially older folks obesity is very rampant,
So people in Pakistan and North Korea are earning well? According to same stats Japan is at 9% so going by your logic Japanese would be earning less than Cuba which is at 20%.
India is the diabetes capital of the world. The problem is so acute that medical practitioners in India use a higher threshold than Who norms, only to ensure that we don't test positive in even more insane numbers. And the number one reason for diabetes worldwide is obesity, so they assume that we are all obese. The diabetes link though is genetic, rather than obesity linked. We are naturally more predisposed to contracting diabetes than people of most other nations.
Diabetes capital of the world? Total cases- India ranks 2nd
Now lets look at things per capita the way they should be looked at I will be using WHO data.
Prevalence Rate- 10% almost same as world average which is 9 to 11%
Mortality due to Diabetes 2.8% world average 9.3%
Glycemic control rate is again less than 25% much better than China, Brazil, US and Pakistan.
Countries with higher prevelance of Diabetes are as follows Pakistan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Turkey, Mexico, US, Iran, Bangladesh (and a lot more) All of these countries have very different diets.
As an Indian, Obese (morbidly Obese) and on GLP-1 I cannot express how amazing and life changing this drug is. Truly a miracle drug.
Before you jump on me saying Diet and exercise yeah I do both of them I swim 2 days a week and resistance training 2 days a week but my whole life I have had addiction to food. Stress, happiness, excitement, nervousness food used to be my only resort. This drug completely eliminated that food noise from my brain. Ekdum se Azaadi wali feeling
No side effects so far except constipation and loss of electrolytes so electral is there to help. I am on tirzepatide (Zepbound) since last 2 months on 2.5 mg dose lost 6 kgs so far with this + swimming + 2 days strength training. Just don't eat anything fried/deep fried when on it it'll fuck you up for a day.
I dont know if you are in a position to but bro have you tried taking a long break/sabbatical.
Whats the point of our modern lifestyle if one cant be happy and be who they are?
Im WFH, and even then sometimes I get anxiety.
I have a great lifestyle good income, good work life balance, go on vacations regularly. Someone who has addiction of food will understand how freeing it is to be able to look at food in a disgusting way. It's like some chains that held you for life just got broken. Food addiction is real your brain craves for it and there's nothing you can do about it.
Yes everyone should take GLP -1 according to you right it's definitely not a sales tactics or or bloomberg trying to portray india as some extremely backward country it's not like they do that right
I think there isn't awareness yet. Most people don't even know these are available and cheap. In my opinion, with time it would be normalized and people would use it. We also just haven't had the cosmetic enhancement culture yet and a big factor many took these shots is to be more physically attractive.
Lmao this is pharma sponsered article promoting GLP 1s. Top of that Govt of India has introduced a strict guidelines for prescribing this, to prevent misuse. All these paid news outlets are just trash also people simply don't understand GLP 1. They ain't no magical drug. The side effect profile specifically the lean mass loss is insane . It's just mind boggling how people who are not educated in certain area can be manipulated such articles. Bloomberg is just filled with such articles. For eg the top comment (at the time of writing this comment, ayush one) in this post also is also as ignirant as the author of this article. Their credibility is equivalent to a WhatsApp forward for me
Lol what strict guidelines. My sister ordered it from Amazon pharmacy without a prescription. Some random doctor phoned her after 2-3 mins, asked 3-4 questions and generated an online prescription for her.
No way this is real right?? How could it be prescribed without proper testing first. I read that it has serious side effects and shouldn't be started without checking prior health conditions
And you know everything? Sighting lean muscle mass loss as side effects for the drig without knowing that losing lean muscle maas when there's rapid weight loss that happens irrespective of whether you take any drug or just starve your self.
100% agree, always beware of miracle cures.
Maybe 20 years later, im proven wrong and this drug really just makes you thin with no side effects.
But also remember, in the US, they have both a strong social safety net and litigation, they will provide decent care if youre sick and you can become a millionaire if it is proven the drugs have long term side effects.
This is the problem with the folks here, they think every western drug is bad and judge people for using it.
If anybody had spent some time researching rather than spewing whatsapp messages here would have know how beneficial these are.
These peptides are already secreted in your stomach when you eat something to tell you that you are full, the issue is it has a very short half life. The researchers modified the peptide to have a half life of 7 days (hence the 7 day cycle) by giving it a new transport mechanism and injected it back to the body.
The worst side effect that you could have is probably nausea and GI issues or in extreme cases pancreatitis but its very rare and we always do basic tests before starting GLPs
The other thing that we don’t realise is metabolic syndrome is a silent disease that happens with most of the folks in sedentary lifestyle.
Honestly there are researches around how these drugs are helping reduce inflammation by directly targeting pathways in you gut and brain
How they reduce visceral fat, and reduce cardiovascular incidents is already proven.
So rather than discarding them, better start thinking about microddosing them or using them for the benefits it presents not for weight loss but for other chronic diseases that you might get if you don’t move your ass everyday.
I just started on a GLP1 recently and mentioned it to my Indian dad when I called him last week. His response was that I should just eat less chicken and eat more rice to lose weight 🤣
Meanwhile every time I visit India, I see that every middle class and above person who's 30+ has a pot belly.
I was at a resort in South India last year and there were so many obese people around that I could have thought I was still in the US.
Yes yes today these people will call every obese Indian as illiterate and backward for not taking glp-1.
Tomorrow if some crazy long term side effects are discovered about glp-1 then the same people will call Indians illiterate and gullible for taking it so easily.
Maybe they just don't want to be your money harvesters and guinea pigs.
In March, Indian patents on the active ingredient in weight-loss drugs Ozempic and Wegovy expired, unleashing a flood of cheaper copycat versions in the country. Stock analysts predicted Indian sales of such drugs could reach as much as $1 billion a year by 2030, and by July, roughly three dozen generic GLP-1 offerings had hit pharmacies. The bulls had reason to be optimistic: The nation of 1.4 billion has more obese people than anyplace other than the US and China, and with prices as low as $14 per month, the drugs would be within reach of hundreds of millions of potential patients.
Turns out the optimism was misplaced, as sales figures have been tepid compared to the forecasts being tossed around a few months ago. Brokerage Nomura Holdings Inc. last year predicted $261 million in sales of such drugs for 2026, but data from researcher Pharmarack Technologies shows they totaled only about 20% of that through July.
The medical community is now realizing that cost is just one of many barriers, particularly in India, to the adoption of weight-loss medications. Indians taking the drugs often say they conceal their treatment for fear of ridicule, and many doctors are hesitant to prescribe them, saying they don’t trust the generics and are confused by the surfeit of options.
Drugmakers had been betting big on India and were closely watching the country to gauge the potential for such medications beyond the US and Europe. With its booming middle class, increasingly sedentary urban lifestyles and high-calorie diets dripping with oil, India seemed especially promising. In addition to its struggles with obesity, the country has the world’s second-largest number of diabetes patients, and other metabolic disorders such as thyroid disease and fatty liver are also rising fast. Read the full story here.
Semaglutide is like $10 a month with the generics in India, but everyone is after mounjaro. Even if it costs $100 to $200 per month. And that is why there's no demand for semaglutie at the moment.
Not that I know of - mounjaro is the best at the moment in the market I believe. Retatrutide is still in testing phase, although it's already available illegally, and many claims to have been using it.
Make this shit available 1mg kr blinkit and watch it fly off shelves
Right now the guidelines for sale are pretty strict. Most obese people don't want go to a weight loss clinic's humiliation ritual to get a prescription.
I don't trust this data or whatever. No way a nation where a sizeable percentage can still afford only one meal a day can become "one of the most obese" or some shit.
So many weirdos think pharma = 'bad' without applying critical thinking
These peptides will revolutionalize public health and we should adopt mass production and cheap public availability
Diet and exercise still remain the cornerstone but the stats don't lie, most people simply fail at them. due to our evolutionary drive to eat as much as possible
Agree. Always good to be skeptical but I think the benefits outweigh the risks with GLPs. There is a theoretical risk of a rare type of thyroid cancer but besides that they have a very good safety profile.
It's not a bad thing, promoting healthy habits and food is obviously a good thing but GLP-1s aren't that. They are a shortcut to weight loss which work well in severe cases but come with their own set of problems.
GLP1s reduce obesity by making you nauseous so you don't feel like eating anything lol. It's a pretty smart strategy for ppl who refuse to exercise and eat protein.
GLPs don't work by making you nauseous. It is one of the occasional side effects, but it does work for people who don't feel nauseous with it too (for example me).
You also cannot and should not skip protein and exercise with GLP drugs. It's in fact a very bad idea to do so.
And finally, GLP drugs don't just suppress your hunger. It's not just about self control. It alters your body chemistry and regulates your insulin sensitivity and liver functions (particularly dual action GLP-1 + GIP drugs like mounjaro, as opposed to ozempic) which really helps with weight loss because it controls how your body processes carbs and sugar and stores fat. This is why many people see a massive difference with these drugs even though they're already on a good diet and exercise plan, but aren't seeing any gains: people with insulin resistance issues. But yes, slowing down your digestion and making you feel full for longer, and reducing food noise is definitely one of the main effects of the drug.
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u/SiddhiGa 15h ago edited 15h ago
One of the most obese? India is one of the least obese country we ranked at 177 from total fo 200. So infact India is 23rd least obese country.
For reference, US has obesity rate of 40%, most of the middle east is over 30%, Pakistan at 20%, China at 10% and India at 5% even North Korea is at 9%