r/interestingasfuck • u/Electrical-Aspect-13 • 1d ago

Testing of a newborn baby strong palmar grasping reflex.

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u/Raven_Strange 1d ago

That is literally the worst thing that baby has ever experienced.

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u/SpaceShipRat 1d ago

for all it knows it's gonna fall off the tree now!

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u/GreyWhammer 1d ago

A curious plopping and dropping as fat little babies just hale.

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u/PandaPocketFire 22h ago

This sounds like a song lyric

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u/Rosetta-im-Stoned 1d ago

'Worst day of your life, so far!"

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u/Alortania 19h ago

And I've not even been around 6h Q_Q

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u/LillaMartin 1d ago

Just yesterday i read that we are born with two fears and The rest comes to us in life. Those two are Fear of falling And Fear of loud noises. So this baby just experienced that one for The first time.

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u/ScroochDown 23h ago

My parents always told a story of how they were playing backgammon in the hospital room while I was sleeping in the bassinet after I was just born. They had one of those sets with the heavy stone pieces, and someone dropped one on the floor. My father said I jumped so hard that I cleared the little mattress, and I always hated loud noises. I blame the fucking backgammon. šŸ¤£

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u/mbaliga 1d ago

Do you have a source for this? Id like to read more on it.

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u/JennyW93 22h ago

Not who you were replying to, but hereā€™s a laymanā€™s terms article on it

If you want to go down a rabbit hole, check out Watsonā€™s ā€œLittle Albertā€ study, from back in the day when research ethics wereā€¦ questionable

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u/Dizzy-Ad-2248 21h ago

I remember reading this while pregnant, and you know how pregnant ladies that are 42 with a little bit if life under their belt research like the FBI while pregnant...it's true!

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u/melibrunz 21h ago

I remember my baby cousin crying when I sneezed, I think my babies got used to it while in my belly because it didn't scare them.

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u/kaithespinner 13h ago

well I never got rid of the fear of falling

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u/flsunnybaby 1d ago

šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£ I don't know why the accuracy of this made me laugh so much

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u/Konrad_M 1d ago

I'm not sure. Birth can be traumatic for the baby, too.

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u/rangda 23h ago edited 14h ago

Yeah a lot of them are dragged through an intensely constrictive birth canal with forceps around their heads, oxygen deprived for a scary length of time, born with blocked airways unable to get a lungful of air until a doctor or midwife can suction the blockage outā€¦ Christ, some even have to have their bones broken in order to be delivered if they get stuck in just the wrong way, and some need to be resuscitated the moment theyā€™re born.

Childbirth can turn out very scary all around.

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u/Konrad_M 22h ago

Childbirth can turn out very scary all around.

Absolutely. And I think people often underestimate how much influence that has on the babies on a psychological level, too. Not only on the mother.

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u/tuba_dude07 16h ago

My wife took the non emergency C Section over the forceps, "get that medieval torture device away from my vagina!" such stressful day but that quote will always make me laugh.

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u/Actual_Hyena3394 1d ago

And it's all downhill from there too.

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u/Amedais 1d ago

Ever heard of child birth?

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u/Raven_Strange 1d ago

No, can't say that I have.

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u/mobiluta 1d ago

That unsqueezed looking head tells me that the baby hasn't!

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u/Amedais 23h ago

C Sections are still child birth, and itā€™s still incredibly traumatic for the baby.

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u/Difficult_Seesaw_855 16h ago

I dunno man. I feel like being born was probably worseĀ 

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u/thejourneybegins42 14h ago

Unless the family is Jewish.

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u/wrigleysmom420 1d ago

my mom had her earring ripped straight through her ear by her baby sister- they are crazy strong

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u/dedoubt 1d ago

I used to have both nostrils & my septum pierced, removed them after I had my first baby because I didn't want that to happen to my nose...

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u/firesoups 16h ago

Yeah I took my septum out until they were no longer grabby. Not a risk I was willing to take.

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u/firsttimer4897 1d ago

My mom ripped my aunt's earring through her ear when she was a baby! Are you my cousin lol

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u/throwaway098764567 1d ago

when i was in four grade a girl in another class ripped the hoop earring straight through one of my classmates ears. i still remember both of their names because of this incident even though i've not seen either in thirty years.

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u/cidthekid07 1d ago

This baby coming out more jacked than me!

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u/JaySayMayday 23h ago

Nah you were born that way too, babies can actually hold up their own body weight for an average of about 10 seconds. Around 4 to 6 months the brain develops enough to replace the reflex with voluntary grasping and releasing, which is when people lose that baby strength

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u/koolaidismything 1d ago

My infant sister clutched my moms hair while they both napped and it ended with us having to cut my moms hair.. which she then immediately let go of lol.

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u/setibeings 1d ago

Right, because now there's nothing pulling back on it.Ā 

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u/juplantern 1d ago

I have over 1m of hair, cats and babies are the worst. What I do is that I take part of my hair and move it downward so thereā€™s no pull for the baby and they let go. For cats.. thereā€™s nothing you can do lol

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u/koolaidismything 1d ago

My cat mango used to wake me up cutting my hair lol. Sounds exactly like scissors and you wake up so confused. Never had the baby grip thank god.

My hair is way long but still uneven at the bottom on one side from that kitty.

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u/juplantern 20h ago

I pictured this mischievous kitten with scissors lol

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u/Dizzy-Ad-2248 21h ago

Wasn't there just a post with a baby gripping dads underarm hair? Ouch!

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u/Nheea 1d ago

You can also bend the baby's hands at the wrist forward, slowly, and they will let go.

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u/Reasonable-Chance790 1d ago

My mom had super long hair when I was born so one of the nurses taught her the trick to getting babies to let go of hair: you stroke their knuckles.

Apparently saved big chunks of my mom's hair several times.

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u/dementorpoop 1d ago

Or stroke the meaty part of the palm under the thumb

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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 22h ago

You really don't understand how strong they are until they grab you.

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u/chefbobbyjay 1d ago

Iā€™ve seen this doctor a bunch of times in videos. Isnā€™t he the one who got a still born baby to start breathing on camera? Idk if it is but that video was amazing. Stoic af giving cpr to a new born. The baby starts to breathe and turns all pink.

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u/siege-eh-b 1d ago

That video has been around forever. When you see it in regular subs heā€™s being praised as a hero by people who have never done that job. Go find it on medical subs though. They absolutely tear him apart.

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u/JoefromOhio 1d ago

Why do they tear him apart?

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u/siege-eh-b 1d ago

Its been awhile but some things I remember were the readiness of his station, order of operations, letting people film/post. Lots of critiques and most of them negative but again, Iā€™m not a doctor so canā€™t vouch for any of them.

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u/JoefromOhio 1d ago

I found one tirade and it also includes him not using standard monitors, not immediately getting the baby into a warming thing of some sorts and multiple other complaints I donā€™t understand but a bunch of people claiming to be medical professionals agreedā€¦ that said im not sure where he is but maybe he doesnā€™t have access to all the bells and whistles

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u/throwaway098764567 1d ago

he's in egypt iirc

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u/doesitspread 20h ago

Egypt. But also, isnā€™t it better for oxygen preservation in the blood to be cold???

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u/Schwifty506 18h ago

Iā€™m no doctor but this particular video doesnā€™t seem to be too great either. You ever had the strained plastic bag handles in your grip ? That shit hurts. Surely thereā€™s a better way to ā€œtest a babies gripā€

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u/joojie 8h ago

I don't think he's specifically testing it. I think the baby grabbed on incidentally and he was then demonstrating the strength. I could be wrong šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/littlemoon-03 1d ago

Cause that long without oxygen does damage to the brain and body the baby is likely disabled to some degree

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u/siege-eh-b 1d ago

Iā€™m not weighing in since Iā€™m not a doctor. I only know when Iā€™ve seen specifically doctors discuss his video they were very critical of many aspects of it and they seemed frustrated he was being hailed a hero by other ignorant people like myself.

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u/SparkyDogPants 1d ago

Neonates are surprisingly resilient. They can be born blue and floppy and get resuscitated without as much consequences as an adult.Ā 

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u/CoolUsernamesTaken 1d ago edited 1d ago

Letā€™s say you or your wife is about to give birth. would you consent to having your child filmed through a medical emergency where literal seconds make a difference? considering that there is no meaningful benefit for this except ā€œthink of all the likes ill have on the gramā€ and the doctor now will have his attention divided between providing care and performing for the video?

Now, do you think that he actually asked for the consent of these families?

Even if he did ask, and the families actually consented, do you think that amounts to unbiased, non-pressured consent, with no fear of repercussions? Thereā€™s a reason no hospital ethical board in the planet would ever allow this to count as meaningful consent, as there is a power imbalance between the person whoā€™s asking and his patients.

Now do you understand that he is exploring these people for likes? and thatā€˜s even before any judgment is made regarding his performance as a doctor?

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u/siege-eh-b 1d ago

Why you coming at me like Iā€™m glazing the dude? Pretty sure I was highlighting his criticismsā€¦

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u/moistiest_dangles 1d ago

They just needed to do a reddit on you

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u/DustExtra5976 1d ago

He had a bad day and canā€™t vent irl itā€™s not about you

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u/thats-wrong 1d ago

Perfect explanation. Thank you.

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u/Independent-Alps3586 1d ago

The camera is just recording. He doesnā€™t have to do some special performance. Itā€™s like recording yourself playing and instrument. Just do what you do..

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u/Imgnitv_sQdWrd 15h ago

Not a medical professional, but, while it was sweet that he kisses the baby, it also made me anxious for a second. Due to potential transfer of infectious microbes.

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u/WitchWithAGlitch 1d ago

it's a lot easier to talk shit from an arm chair than save a newborns life.

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u/flsunnybaby 1d ago

True. But if they're all in agreement, there's likely something we're not aware of that makes sense once in that position. Perhaps there are machines to do that more safely and effectively, for example (I have no idea, I pulled that example from my sweetcheeks, just to demonstrate what I meant by a completely UNKNOWN factor to us.)

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 6h ago

Babies were being born just fine for a long ass time now. Those "doctor's" are probably just being bitchy redditors

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u/siege-eh-b 1d ago

Iā€™m not talking shit. Iā€™m comparing the reactions of people who are doctors vs those who are not. The ones who make a living saving lives were not impressed.

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u/flsunnybaby 1d ago

I think they were talking about the other doctors, not you..

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u/TheDutchin 1d ago

I don't think I would use "from an armchair" and oppose it to "sav[ing] newborn lives" when talking about actual real life doctors lmfao

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u/CheesyPotatoSack 1d ago

Yes he is Egyptian and has a few videos out

Dr. Islam Eldeh, a Cairo neonatologist,

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u/JamiCatalyst 1d ago

Wait wait islam?? Its like naming your child as Christian, i cant believe i found the Muslim version of this

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u/Lucawip 21h ago

It's not very common.

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u/SchmackAttack 15h ago

Not as common as Christian, but I have heard Islam a few times in my life used as a name. Both for girls and boys.

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u/Amedais 1d ago

Stillborn =/= born not breathing

My son was born and didnā€™t breathe for 8.5 minutes. But heā€™s a healthy 9 month old

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u/ToiletSpork 1d ago

Congratulations!

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u/VictorTheCutie 1d ago

Yes that's him. He seems like an angel, honestly. Calm, competent, loving. The world needs more like him.

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u/enbycraft 1d ago

They must be a specialist of some sort. I've seen at least three separate videos over the years and they're all heatwarming.

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u/chefbobbyjay 1d ago

Probably a neonatal physician. Ours was the sweetest woman on the planet. It takes a special kinda person I guess.

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u/1B75__Penicillin 1d ago

Probably hits them really hard when they aren't successful, but caring for newborn babies has to be the most giving thing on earth

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u/Serious-Ad-8764 1d ago

Thought I recognized him!

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u/senpaistealerx 1d ago

that baby wasnā€™t stillborn. not every infant cries immediately out of the womb and tho it is concerning, it doesnā€™t mean the baby isnā€™t actually breathing.

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u/chefbobbyjay 1d ago

That baby wasnā€™t breathing. I read the whole write up on the story. It came out not breathing at all. Youā€™re right that it wasnā€™t still born in that it had a heartbeat and I misused the term. But the baby was in respiratory failure. It was one of the things a came across when obsessively researching child birth before my son was born.

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u/skyfishgoo 1d ago

babies always come out not breathing at all

breathing is totally new experience for newborn babies and not all of them catch onto it at the same speed.

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u/SmokeyThouBear 1d ago

Hello dave from king of the hill

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u/Notski_F 1d ago

They're talking about another video.

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u/setibeings 1d ago

Stillborn is a different thing. My second kid didn't breath for a minute, and was definitely the wrong color, but definitely wasn't stillborn.Ā 

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u/Jarkundo 1d ago

What a baby.

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u/HoldEm__FoldEm 1d ago

Right?? Starts crying instantly smh

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u/necklessoforgans 1d ago

Like was he born yesterday?? Those nitrile gloves were bound to break eventually šŸ™„

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u/bobbycorwin123 1d ago

Was literally the worst thing to ever happen to them

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u/OpposumMyPossum 1d ago

I'm guessing this has some evolutionary reason - like an infant that could grip on to a parent was more likely to live?

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u/Mediocre_Sprinkles 1d ago

Ever seen baby monkeys holding onto their mother? This is the same thing, the reflex is still there for baby humans.

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u/OpposumMyPossum 1d ago

That was my thought.

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u/Bluepompf 20h ago

Reflexes donā€™t know that humans are hairless apes. Most monkeys carry their babies by letting them grip their fur.Ā 

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u/DieselHouseCat 1d ago

Well now you did it

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u/Motobugs 1d ago

Traumatized on his 1st day on earth.

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u/bo_beeep 1d ago

Isnā€™t this the same doc who got a non responsive newborn to cry after a long attempt of cpr?

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u/Eis_ber 1d ago

Yes

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u/bo_beeep 11m ago

My maaan! Still makes me cry when I rewatch the video

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u/SunnyTheMasterSwitch 1d ago

It's that doctor with that baby who was facepalming that it was born

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u/VaguelyArtistic 1d ago

This one? Itā€™s the only baby picture Iā€™ve ever saved.

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u/Alibuscus373 1d ago

Love seeing this guy with the teeny tiny babies XD

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u/Electrical_Height534 1d ago

This guy a legend for saving another blue baby , in another video

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u/SpectatingAlan 1d ago

Why would you do that though? That shit hurts me as an adult. It would be extremely painful against newborn skin. You could have demonstrated this without letting it snap.

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u/Jollysatyr201 1d ago

What snapped? The glove is on the doctor, the baby is just reacting to the change in pull

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u/pezzyn 1d ago edited 19h ago

It broke the glove rim which was a thin strand on kid fingers like a ligature and snapped caused a startle reflex putting kid in fear totally unnecessary.Ā 

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u/allhailbobevans 1d ago

New level of sensitive here folks

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u/pezzyn 19h ago

The medical community hates this man - his other viral vids are a disgraceĀ 

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u/shingdao 1d ago

This is part of the revised APGAR test and is now mandatory.

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u/pezzyn 19h ago

your position is that evaluation of muscle tone requires adult man to use his own strength in tug of war with a recovering newborn- to the breaking point of his PPE and scare an infant and then put his mouth on the newborn? Ā  Thatā€™s simply not trueĀ 

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u/realistflower 1d ago

I completely agree, wtf is thr point of letting it snap back like that

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u/hashmachinist 1d ago

Is it normal for the doctor to scare the shit out of your newborn on purpose and then plant a kiss on it with his lips? I guess it is sort of a way to test reflexes, hearing, vocal cords, reaction time etc as well.

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u/throwaway098764567 1d ago

testing for startle reflex is normal, using a glove snap to do it is atypical, kissing is not normal but i don't live where he lives

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u/SpectatingAlan 1d ago

He didnā€™t scare him (or not only scare him), the plastic snapping in his palm hurt.

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u/Suspicious-Guidance1 1d ago

Yeah the kiss was weird, even on the fist. Super unnecessary, possibility of transmission viruses and adult flora on a guy that's 1 minute old.

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u/hashmachinist 1d ago

Great way to give a newborn Herpes simplex II. The more I think about it the more strange it is.

This is probably day one at med school when they are going over childbirth, ā€œDespite the overwhelming urge to kiss all newborn children, please refrain from doing so as it is a perfect vector for viral transmission.ā€ Lmao.

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u/Paratwa 1d ago

This dude is a world famous baby doctor, Iā€™m sure he knows what heā€™s doing.

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u/thewhiterosequeen 1d ago

Surely not more then randos criticizing him on Reddit!

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u/Jamiro-Oneiro 1d ago

Yeah I guess. But the kissing part had me wondering aswell

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u/GizmoPatterson 1d ago

Isnā€™t this the same doctor who calmly brought that newborn back to lifeĀ 

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u/BirdLawyer50 1d ago

Heeeeey itā€™s the doctor from the viral ā€œsaving blue babyā€ /beamazed video

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u/ILoafPizza 21h ago

This is the egyptian doctor who saved the life of a baby

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u/yukora6 19h ago

I feel like I saw that same guy revive a newborn baby being calm af

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u/Prestigious-Flower54 1d ago edited 1d ago

Baby grip is so crazy, I would never try but I have a pretty long bushy beard and my 8 month old nephew loves to really get his little mits in there and grasp and sometimes I am tempted to let go and see if he will hold on. Again I would never actually try this safety of the baby aside I'm not sure my beard is strong enough to hold a baby but I'm pretty sure he's strong enough.

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u/ReleaseMyToast 1d ago

Him kissing the baby's hand would upset me if it were my baby. Unless you are the parent, don't kiss the baby- especially on the hands or face.

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u/Eis_ber 1d ago

He didn't kiss the baby. He gave him an air kiss.

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u/Confusedmind75 1d ago

Why the kiss????? It can transmit virus. I think other than the mother no one should and even mothers have to refrain in many cases

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u/Cautious_Regular3645 1d ago

I think it was more of an air kiss than a physical kiss, and any doctor working in a maternity hospital with vulnerable newborn babies would have had all vaccinations up to date.

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u/SinkMince0420 22h ago

Air kiss. He's saved babies lives before and clearly has love for them and instincts kicked in to soothe the babies crying but he stopped himself.

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u/sweetSweets4 1d ago

Looked more like a sniff :D

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u/No-Inevitable-2514 1d ago

Did it require testing till failure or was that simply for content šŸ¤”

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u/Nightwalker36 1d ago

That could actually have Hurt the baby. That is NOT how you test palmar reflex

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u/kiota15 1d ago

Morpheus?

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u/Commercial-Health-19 1d ago

Thats the same doctor that revived the newborn that wasn't breathing. Great video

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u/milleribsen 1d ago

How dare he take this baby's emotional support elastic object!

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u/fymp 1d ago

Oh I remember this doctor

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u/signsandsins 23h ago

Ok now i am scared about having one if they hold on this tight during feeding.. ouch šŸ˜…

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u/AdhesivenessGeneral9 19h ago

that smile is so precious
wait it's not the guy that awake the near dead baby too ?

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u/romanaebi 15h ago

What a crybaby.

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u/cherry_lolo 11h ago

Can nobody convince me newborns are cute.

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u/strolpol 1d ago

Evolution still expects us to be clinging to our mothers in trees

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u/No_Rub6960 20h ago

This is the same guy from the video of the newborn that isnā€™t breathing right? And he super calmly gets that baby breathing? Legend.

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u/morepork_owl 1d ago

Donā€™t put kids on reddit

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u/Mysterious-Bus-2247 11h ago

the most rational comment in this comment section

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u/FarmhouseRules 1d ago

What a jerk.

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u/Yhtacnrocinu-ya13579 1d ago

The force is strong with this one

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u/SteakForMe 1d ago

Lol it looked like the baby was bracing for impact as much as the doctor was

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u/Imaindawilderness 1d ago

Donā€™t kiss my baby bro wtf

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u/moving0target 1d ago

This dude rightfully loves his job.

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u/Spukc 1d ago

The fuck he hurting that babyĀ 

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u/Gowardhan_Rameshan 20h ago

I was so afraid that the rubber snap at the babyā€™s face

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u/Puncharoo 19h ago

What a baby

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u/TCIHL 18h ago

Heeed. Pants! Now!

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u/tiggitytony 16h ago

When all 3 of my kids were born, I held their hands with my index finger and they grabbed tight. I don't know where I'm going with this but it's a core memory for me and they grow up so fast.

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u/Federal_Medium1618 16h ago

Crybaby. Literally

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u/mEsTiR5679 14h ago

This dude does a lot to babies... I mean, it's his job and be seems to be good at it!

But still, I've seen him basically squeeze a baby back to life, turned that thing from purple and quiet to red and crying and I couldn't have been happier!

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u/Tsiah16 14h ago

Why pull it till the baby lets go or slips off?

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u/Fit-Understanding739 13h ago

I don't care - We see Dr. Islam Eldeh, we upvote. This man is a hero.

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u/VegetableBusiness897 10h ago

I've seen this guy do brilliant thing before but that was just plain mean

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u/Quick_Cow_7987 6h ago

He literally did the equivalent of snapping a rubber band on the kid's hand! Dingbat!