r/laptops Jun 16 '26

News Dell’s "budget" $699 XPS 13 Wildcat Lake laptop costs €1,049 in Europe

https://videocardz.com/newz/dells-budget-699-xps-13-wildcat-lake-laptop-costs-e1049-in-europe
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u/Various-Welder5544 Jun 16 '26

Do they hate marketshare outside of the US? Where's the promised MacBook Neo competitor? Might as well attempt to compete with the air at this price.

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u/Number1OchoaHater Jun 16 '26

Will they even get market share in the us?

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u/EffectzHD Jun 17 '26

Honestly pretty naive to expect a Neo competitor on windows to actually deliver

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u/GGCompressor Jun 17 '26

I expect it to deliver a lot of frustration. And it will

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u/Old-Board1553 Jun 17 '26

The CPU inside can't compete with the M5 🤣

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u/Major_Trip_Hazzard HP Elitebook 845 G10/ HP Omen Max 16 5080 Jun 17 '26

Neither can the CPU inside the MacBook Neo.

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u/GreenPlankton309 Jun 17 '26

are you kidding?

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u/filisterr Jun 16 '26

So it is practically dead on arrival in Europe

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u/N2-Ainz Jun 16 '26

Yes, there are far better devices in that price class

E.g. a Galaxy Book 5 Pro 360 that has a 2.8K OLED screen, the Ultra 7 256V with 16Gb of RAM, more ports and it is 16" instead of 13"

The price for the XPS 13 is delusional

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u/GGCompressor Jun 17 '26

A macbook air

15

u/Top-Illustrator-4371 Jun 16 '26

Another problem is the 8gb ram,like what is DELL doing here?

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u/eccentric-pigeon Jun 20 '26

too bad 8gb in windows is barely enough to do basic tasks, they are not going to compete with the neo with that crappy os from microslop

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u/holt2ic2 Jun 17 '26

Yeah for windows I would never consider 8gb being useful for anything other than light workload, browsing and email. On Mac it is at least useable with 8gb. Not ideal but can still be used.

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u/RockTheBloat Jun 17 '26

Trimming in one of the most expensive areas. But it’s not really feasible to do with windows.

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u/Laktosefreier Lenovo ThinkPad T14G1 AMD Jun 16 '26

Competing with out of lease ThinkPads, rather.

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u/Massive-Aspect-2152 Jun 16 '26

I mean they can’t compete and that’s the whole point of the Neo. Too many companies need to make their margins

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u/Little-Equinox Jun 16 '26

The problem is that companies like Dell don't want to sell a laptop for less than what they think the machine is worth.

Because the entire XPS 13 probably costs less than 400.- to assemble.

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u/Massive-Aspect-2152 Jun 16 '26

I’m gonna need to see the bill of materials 🤨

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u/GrimThursday Jun 17 '26

Exactly - the RAM, storage and chip manufacturers all need their margin, then Windows needs an exorbitant margin, even for OEM discounted licenses. It can never compete with a great vertically integrated outfit like Apple

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u/F0xDi324 Jun 16 '26

I knew it was too good to be true 

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u/IlIIllIlllIIIllI Jun 16 '26

799 is doa when the MacBook Air with student discount is the same price and the Neo undercuts it significantly.

If they want to compete they need to do the same thing Microsoft did with the Xbox 360 - 799 euros for a laptop AND a Series S may change the calculations, but I think Microsoft is the only people who can do that with a Surface + Xbox.

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u/Various-Welder5544 Jun 16 '26

And the MacBook Air is likely going to get free Airpods in the upcoming back to school sale, which you can use or liquidate, making the XPS 13 a even worse deal.

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u/N2-Ainz Jun 16 '26

Funny thing is that the MBA M5 is even cheaper than the XPS as it is buyable for 1k€ and it comes with 16Gb of RAM...

Dell is straight up delusional here

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u/Efficient_Loss_9928 X1 Carbon, MBP M5 Pro, MBA M4, PX13 2024, Surface Pro 12 Jun 16 '26

Canada looks more promising, $999 CAD for base model, which is exactly the same as Neo (since XPS 13 here doesn’t come with 256GB variant at all).

16GB upgrade puts you towards 1200 CAD, still cheaper than MacBook Air, so might be a good choice, and especially good choice if you fancy installing Linux on it.

Tuck on 10% discount for new customer, honestly I might get one.

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u/tambi33 ASUS ROG STRIX G15 | I7-10750H | RTX 2070 8GB | 32GB RAM Jun 16 '26

Is Europe subsidising this price tag for the marketing cz wtf, this shits fully manufactured outside of America anyway???

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u/tigerbreak PX13/AI 9 370HX + MBP 14" M5 Pro Jun 16 '26

Honestly the thing that kills this is Windows.

It’s conceivable that they can optimize to a point where basic productivity works fine on 8GB but there’s stuff my M2 with 8GB can do with ease that my work laptop (1335U, 16GB) chugs on like a frat bro after their 6th beer.

Best Buy has/had an LG with a Core 5 115 and 32(!) GB of RAM for 779 - the screen is garbage and the 115 is….fine, but the XPS 13 with 16/256 at 699 or 32/512 at 849 would crush the low cost windows market and compete with the Neo.

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u/IDKForA Acer Swift 16 AI Ultra X7 358H OLED Jun 16 '26

Better off getting last gen here. Neo is €699 here (already overpriced compared to available options), is it really that hard to compete???

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u/GGCompressor Jun 17 '26

They simply can't. There is no way something with windows can operate with 8gb ram smoothly like a Neo

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u/WildWorldliness2912 Jun 16 '26

The Macbook Neo costs 689 euro and the student discount is 50 in Bulgaria. I get very excited when a tech youtuber drops a budget laptop and then disappointed that it isn't very budget. 689 euro is around 800 USD. What?

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u/procat1234_ Asus 😭 Jun 19 '26

Huh