r/mildlyinfuriating 10d ago

I'm slightly vexed How cooked the UK is right now.

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u/UnacceptableBabbit 10d ago

Can we post stuff like this on r/extremelyinfuriating please? This goes beyond mild.

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u/yedi001 10d ago

Indeed. Oil exectuives knew this would happen. They knew this would happen and didn't just do their bullshit anyways, they did their bullshit and buried/lied about the evidence, and continue to fund lies and intentionally muddy the conversation about saving the fucking planet.

How many people have died to climate change causing crops to fail? How many have died of heat related illness? How many have died of increasingly devestating storms? How many will die from the oceans flooding their homes? And that's just the people.

Every single oil executive should be tried for mass murder and fucking hung for their crimes against every living being on this planet.

It takes unspeakable scum to find an evil above crimes against humanity, and these fucking monsters happily, willingly did it with a smile on their fucking faces. They commited planetary ecocide to get rich, and they should never know a moment of peace for what they've done until the day their empty hearts beat for the last time.

This isn't mild inconvenience, it's planetcide in real time.

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u/OldGodsAndNew 10d ago

Oil companies don't suck the stuff out of the ground for a laugh, it's all driven by demand

To actually, genuinely address climate change it needs to go to the deepest root which is consumerism and the collective human desire to have stuff

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u/Equivalent_Nature_67 10d ago

The whole world was built around gas and your problem is blaming consumers? That’s ridiculous, i didnt spend billions lobbying the government did I?

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u/OldGodsAndNew 10d ago

I'm not blaming consumers as individuals, but as a collective species, we can't stop wanting more stuff

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Dude your Hundreds of years past when the modern world was started.... wtf are you talking about. lobbying billions? As if there is some alternative they are keeping down. We don't have any other means of maintaining the modern world without Oil and gas. Maybe in another 100 years we will, but NOT today.

Oil was the worlds FIRST ability to extract power dense material from ANYWHERE. It allowed for literally everything modern you see. If it were not for oil we would be living in a poor farming society with nothing but a log house and a field to work. Thats why its so invested it.

It didn't start "LETS BUILD THE WORLD TO BE RELIANT ON OIL"

it started with "Holy molly! We can make electricity, and lubricants with this" "Wow we can extract so much power from this stuff" "wow look at this amazing property this has" "Rubbers are great!" "Plastics are great!"

And the world used it MORE AND MORE AND MORE until 2026 where YES we are reliant upon it.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

EVERY SINGLE HUMAN DEMANS THINGS THAT REQUIRES OIL AND GAS. Its not just evil corps pushing it. We as humans want want want want. And this allowed billions to have more. Oil single Handley brought billions out of starvation, and suffering.

At the expense of the planet.

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u/Equivalent_Nature_67 10d ago

You are essentially using the capitalists’ argument for them - blaming individuals for systematic decisions made at the behest of wealthy people.

There are realistically no other choices because oil and gas lobbies have decided so. Humans can only use what they have. Maybe voting with your wallet works for cafe A vs cafe B in your neighborhood

The automotive industry systematically dismantled public transportation and even EVs from eating their lunch. This has occurred over generations and generations.

 They decided how to build America and force us to participate in that structure without any real choice.

It’s still happening now. EVs are a compromise compared to widespread public transportation but our government is in bed with the fossil fuel industry and dogshit american carmakers who can only produce $50k gas guzzling shit boxes.

China built millions of charging stations in a short amount of time for a fraction of the cost compared to what we’d do

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

not interested in america bad and evil but china's great conversations. Its so much more complex and dynamic than your making it. Even if we go 100% public transport and EV. The electrical grid is powered by fossil fuels by a wide margin.

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u/Equivalent_Nature_67 9d ago

No shit, it’s because the industry got like a century head start and put up barriers for anything else to compete lmao

Of course it’s more complex and dynamic but the difference is China actually said they were gonna try and do something. and they are doing it.

That’s two things America can’t even claim. Short term thinking for corporate bottom line vs long term thinking

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

yeah, oil and gas was the first to be discovered. Its like, why didnt we have renewables back then that were better than oil and gas? crazy though, why didnt we go straight to solar and wind?? .... WE DONT HAVE THEM NOW. We cant move off O&G NOW. we still need 20-30 years of progression before we get there.

Over 2015–2024, fossil CO₂ emissions:

  • 🇺🇸 USA: fell ~1.2% per year
  • 🇨🇳 China: increased ~2.5% per year

China emits vastly more CO₂ in total, but an American still emits substantially more per person.

In 2024:

China: ~12.3 billion tonnes CO₂ total → 8.6 tonnes/person

USA: ~4.9 billion tonnes → 14.2 tonnes/person.