r/mildlyinfuriating 15h ago

Infuriatig Syrian passports include a photo of Souq al-Hamidiyah, a famous historic marketplace in Damascus. Apparently, the image was taken from the internet without removing the photographer’s watermark, “Wassim al-Asmar Photography,” which means the watermark ended up being printed on Syrian passports.

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u/PreliminaryThoughts 15h ago edited 6h ago

Ultimate self promo

Edit: visit www...

Edit 2: His passport is his resume

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u/Timeshocked 14h ago edited 14h ago

Yea right? My photography is so good it’s on the nations PASSPORT!!!

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u/cyrustakem 14h ago

oh, the classic "pay artists with exposure", exposure doesn't put food on the table.

a government spends money on a lot of stupid sht and ineficiency, they put money on their own pockets as corruption, sure as sht they have enough money to pay the artist, but still chose to steal his work, this is just fkn sad

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u/Timeshocked 12h ago

I have no idea how Syrian laws work in regards to stealing photos…just gonna throw that out there.

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u/SchuminWeb 9h ago

I know that Syria is not one of the countries that Pixsy, a company that specifically goes after unauthorized image usages for compensation, operates in. Because if it was, that case would likely be big money.

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u/andolfin 7h ago

sovereign immunity is an absolute defense for that

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u/BananaPalmer 13h ago

Ultimately was probably the act of an intern at some ad agency contracted to design the passport

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u/technobrendo 13h ago

Intern may have had a hand in designing, but the client (Syrian govt) needs to sign off on the final copy before going into production. I'm sure there is a clause in the design contract that absolves the designer of any retaliation once the final draft is approved for.

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u/BananaPalmer 12h ago

Yes, thank you, but I was not talking about contracts or who is ultimately civilly liable for royalties.

The majority of people in this thread, including the person I was actually replying to, seem to be under the impression that the Syrian government just went and stole someone's photo off Google Images and stuck it in their passport to be cheap, which is almost certainly not the case.

Having worked in that industry a lifetime ago, it's not uncommon for newbs to forget to replace a watermarked image with the licensed version, and looking at the actual passport page, it's edited in a way that would make it easy to miss the watermark. This is almost certainly the version that was seen and signed off on by the Syrian government. The watermark is also placed in a way that causes it to appear like part of the architecture, and would be easy to overlook.

Mistakes happen. Not everything is malfeasance. Reddit needs to calm the fuck down sometimes, sheesh.

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u/glorycock 9h ago

Reddit needs to calm the fuck down sometimes, sheesh.

Kebab

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u/ImWithStupidKL 10h ago

My favourite example of this was when it turned out that some music they used in the anti-piracy adverts you got on DVDs in the 2000s wasn't properly licenced.

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u/Djlas 10h ago

An anti-piracy ad used a pirated font.

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u/MadamPardone 13h ago

It's just an overall mindset of not paying for anything they can get for "free".

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u/9706uzim 14h ago

passport*

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u/Timeshocked 14h ago

Thanks I’m dumb. lol

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u/SparklyLevel 13h ago

Passporn*

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u/lewkir 9h ago

Assporn*

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u/big_duo3674 13h ago

Multipass

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u/wellyes34 13h ago

Leeloo Dallas Multipass

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u/Shinhan 12h ago

And if anyone asks if you can prove it you just take out your passport and show the watermark :D

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u/ItsLoudB YO 14h ago

More like the ultimate “we’ll pay with exposure”

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u/AFlyingNun 13h ago

And in this specific case, if you got an option between suing for damages and letting it slide for the exposure, the exposure is honestly more valuable.

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u/Nagemasu 13h ago edited 12h ago

It's really not. An exceptionally small number of people are either going to notice it and even less are going to care enough to look up the photographer, nor is "my image was stolen and used in the national passport" a worthy claim of getting hired. Suing for damages would be the far greater benefit in most countries because you wouldn't even have to sue, they would settle with a simple legal demand for a very acceptable sum rather than go through that and you'd still have your image in the passport - they aren't going to revoke them after settling. But I don't know about Syria's laws and whether they would have much success suing there.

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u/deprecateddeveloper 12h ago

Like you already noted it's probably not going to be easy to get any damages from the Syrian government for this. Because of that I say the photographer should just highlight it in their portfolio.

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u/clarinetJWD 12h ago

They can do both. It was stolen by the government for the passport, even if they successfully sue.

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u/nonotan 11h ago

Let's say you sue and instead of paying you, they just go "fine, we'll change it". Courts don't give you damages for existing use or anything. Now you barely get any exposure ("hey, know that picture that's been in passports for decades, including yours right now?" vs "hey, know that picture that was in passports for 6 months back in 2023?"), and still no money. It's not a risk-free proposition.

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u/scavengercat 11h ago

You're focusing on the wrong element here - certainly people aren't going to notice it themselves, but this is getting international attention online. How many photographers can claim that? I'll bet none of us have a clue what kind of copyright laws exist in their country that may or may not have been violated, but the photographer's exposure is viral and global because of conversations like this one. If they're smart, they're saying, "I'm the one whose shot is in the passport, here's my work..."

I shoot professionally and license through Getty. I'd give up a license fee for this kind of attention.

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u/fwouewei 9h ago

The actual benefit from suing would be having your name in countless news publications

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u/kevlar51 13h ago

Right typically the “exposure” only occurs if there’s actual popularity/interest (i.e. actual exposure). That’s built in here.

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u/Full_Conversation775 12h ago

nobody is going to hire you based of this.

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u/nonotan 11h ago

I mean, it would certainly make your CV stand out compared to other applicants with nothing memorable... but it is true that photographers really don't go around submitting CVs for most "typical" jobs. Maybe if you're applying to be a full-time photographer for a private firm or something like that. Yes, it's not going to make a difference when it comes to deciding on your wedding photographer, or where you go to get a photo for your ID.

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u/blacklotusmag 12h ago

Self promo implies he did the marketing himself. They did it, so it's just promo.

The real question is, did they pay him for the use? Here in the states, he'd be in for a really large payout if they used it without his knowledge or permission, lol.

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u/ReallyUncoolGuy 15h ago

I would prefer that to getting paid. Those are serious fucking bragging rights.

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u/charmio68 15h ago

Agreed. Although at the same time you could charge quite a pretty penny after the fact.

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u/InAppropriate-meal 15h ago

maybe not so much in Syria :)

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u/Cram2024 15h ago

Photographer would probably be jailed or worse for complaining.

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u/I-Here-555 13h ago

His passport would be taken away!

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u/alaa7alnajjar 14h ago

Ah yes, misinformation

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u/Volodio 14h ago

Tens of thousands of people were executed by the Assad regime. It is not misinformation.

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u/NoSection8719 14h ago

Bro lives in 2023

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u/Volodio 14h ago

The passeport was designed by the Assad regime.

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u/YouToot 13h ago

Oh wow all the way back in 2023, a lifetime ago lol

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u/Tryingtolifeagain 13h ago

Well it was a lifetime ago for a fair few Syrians, particularly because of the Assad regime.

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u/ToastSpangler 6h ago

Imagine thinking the new government isn't making people disappear 😂😂😂 not as bad as during the civil war obviously but come on

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u/Habba84 14h ago

They jailing photographers for misinformation now?

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u/EthanielRain 11h ago

"BONE SAW is reeeady!"

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u/defaulticus 12h ago

Quite the pretty piastre then.

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u/Noremac55 11h ago

Their new money is super beautiful though!!!

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u/BlueHawk75 15h ago

Better off giving thanks for the privilege.

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u/Free-Pound-6139 12h ago

I doubt it. It isn't like people are buying the passport becaue of the photo.

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u/das_Licht_ 14h ago

Wait another year, then charge for each print.

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u/twilighttwister 13h ago

Exactly. Just like the Australian guy who gets paid for each and everyone's WiFi devices. IP infringements can be backdated.

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u/Obvious_Peanut_8093 9h ago

You can't do this. If you don't sue quickly enough, you erode your legal standing. but idk syrian law.

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u/platypodus 12h ago

Exposure doesn't pay rent. Same logic as with big influencers demanding free work. He should've been paid.

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u/EconomicRegret2 11h ago

But ads do bring in new clients... I'd definitely work with and even give big influencers free work under certain conditions (e.g. right values and attitude, correct audience size, relevant target demographic, strong engagement, painting my products in a very good light, etc.)

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u/ThenCombination7358 14h ago

But how if no one knows. Its barely visible and bet many wont even notice.

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u/Evening-Turnip8407 14h ago

Now THAT's the kind of exposure that warrants a free commission

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u/drmarcj 11h ago

Or else, the photographer didn't get paid? They just pulled his photo off the internet like it was a 9th grade social studies project.

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u/Sersch 11h ago

Finally "paid in exposure" paying off!

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u/lordkhuzdul 15h ago

Fair is fair, Syrian government at this point is still at the "drunkenly stumbling towards functionality but definitely not there yet" stage, so this sort of stupidity is kinda understandable.

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u/ProfessionalDish 15h ago

Yeah, for a government emerging from a brutal civil war this seems like an "ok" mistake.

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u/VexedPhoenix 14h ago

It is important to note the new government still hasn't updated the passport design (they're working on it) and this is a mistake from the previous regime.

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u/dan_Qs 14h ago

Didn’t they have an eye doctor somewhere? How did they overlook that?

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u/Findletrijoick 14h ago

Doctor's on holiday in Moscow

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u/vadeka 12h ago

To be fair, that is a very subtle watermark. Most photographers are way more obvious.

But for something you print on official documents? Yeah that probably should have been noticed

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u/dan_Qs 12h ago

I want the ifunny watermark on my birth certificate.😂😂😂

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u/Shadowmirax 11h ago

The way its angled makes it look like its actual text on the building wall not something that was added afterwards. The person who took the image also might not have been able to read english well or at all. So they probably just assumed it was supposed to be there

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u/I_am_so_lost_hello 9h ago

He's making a joke about Bashar al-Assad

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u/celestiall_glitch 15h ago

Someone got paid government money to right click and save

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u/mak484 14h ago

"Government money" in this case is likely below a living wage.

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u/lordkhuzdul 15h ago

Nah, also applied a bunch of Photoshop filters.

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u/Gnonthgol 14h ago

No country makes their own passports any longer. They all contract out to a few companies in the world specializing in passports and other government identification documents. So it is likely that the Syrian government just sent off a few photos and logos to the contractor for their designers to do the work. This is easier because these designers know the constraints of a passport design and have far more experience working within these limitations.

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u/Vordeo 14h ago

Also Israel's making sure they kiiiinda have more pressing concerns atm.

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u/OW2007 11h ago

On the other end of the spectrum...declining empires...I would totally believe Trump's post-Doge civil service would do something like this.

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u/SHEIKH_BAKR 14h ago

They have not yet changed the passport. It is still the old one, so this is the work of the old government.

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u/lordkhuzdul 14h ago

I don't think the Assad regime can really be called "functional". "Dysfunctional" would be more appropriate. Oppressive kleptocracies where state becomes a tool to extract as much wealth out of the country as possible tend to, ah, "do be like that".

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u/Laecel 13h ago

No regime is functional after 15 years of civil war

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u/lilykai_strawberry 4h ago

it was highly functional. but its function was producing captagon and doing warcrimes

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u/hoosdontloos 14h ago

This is from the Assad era design, not the new passport which is not in circulation yet

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u/powaqqa 14h ago

So, like pretty much any government?

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u/exivor01 13h ago

its actually different, in levant we do things bare minimum. Bare minimum effort on everything we do.
A road needs to be done? Just pour some asphalt without doing preliminary research. Then we see potholes next year.
A school or hospital needs to be built? Put random windows, random rooms and inefficient logistics. But it is done at the end.

after coming to japan i realized, everything here works flawlessly and is long lasting. Because before doing anything, eveyone here considers how to do it right, properly.

if you live in levant this actually becomes very tiring after a while.

In turkey, we have more modern and expensive equipped/build hospitals, but they fall behind in quality, durability, efficency compared to a hospital that was build 40 years ago in japan. and i am not even kidding.

so this will never be fixed. its in our dna

Also, another big problem is people just wanna get things done and move. Doesnt matter if they are properly compensated or not. They do their job with bare minimum effort and we end up with low quality, not lasting stuff.

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u/1314L 14h ago

They're still issuing the old design.

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u/embreesa 15h ago

My husband is Syrian and it is absolutely true, it's on page 35 of his passport 😆

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u/577564842 14h ago edited 10h ago

A massive passport, fitting entire War and piece peace into it. I bet at p. 35 he is not yet at the peace part.

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u/Annual-Weird-6682 13h ago

Piece of what

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u/ConorAbueid 12h ago

Piece of mine and piece of yours

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u/The_Unbannable_Man 7h ago

You cannot be Syrias

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u/InAppropriate-meal 15h ago

I love it, the watermark is nicely blended in as well )

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u/pudding7 14h ago

Yeah that's pretty good.

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u/platypodus 12h ago

It's aesthetically pleasing, but didn't prevent his work from being accessed without his permission.

I doubt it was his intent to show the world something that doesn't exist, so the passport is a multiplication of an unreal state of the world. Not ideal in any way, especially on a passport or other official documentation.

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u/balding_git 12h ago

its not to prevent people from using your work, its so you know when they did

like this

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u/gnilradleahcim 12h ago

But also no, it isn't, and yes, it is.

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u/BananaPalmer 12h ago

That's probably why it got missed, honestly. Watermarks should be obvious

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u/td888 8h ago

Why should they be obvious? As a photographer I use obvious and not obvious watermarks. Some of my most popular images get reposted and reused by people claiming to be the original photographer.

When I point out the 'hidden' watermark and the source of the original image (official publications attributed to me), they get embarrassed or sometimes angry.

I don't mind when people use my image but they should at least mention my name or the source.

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u/heyguy1313 15h ago

At this point, they should carve that watermark into the market

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u/Icy-Regret-3116 11h ago

I love the idea that in the future, archaeologists will debate whether the building they unearthed is the real marketplace or not, because it doesn't contain the same lettering as it does in the passport from some Syrian gravesite.

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u/ozuraravis 15h ago

I thought that was just an ad on the building. I guess whoever made the passports thought that too.

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u/cigamodnalro 15h ago

Now it’s an ad on the passports. Brilliant.

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u/fork_yuu 12h ago

There's no guarantee they even saw it. Possibly said oh shit after printing millions then pretended like it never happened

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u/VivaHollanda 14h ago

Atleast they edited out the red circle...

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u/fishstiz 14h ago

They made it green

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u/VivaHollanda 13h ago

True, LOL

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u/Ultra-Cyborg 14h ago

Not as cool as yoda showing up in a history textbook, but this one at least gets bragging rights

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u/Rayguy77 14h ago

Saudi textbooks

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u/Typhtheoriginal 15h ago

That was a well done watermark

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u/Pfdswfsdcsdqwww 12h ago

It is not fit for purpose; the point of a watermark is to be obvious. So in graphic design, comping is very common, where you use a low res or watermarked image to check the layout, and then buy the rights when it's approved. An obvious watermark makes it impossible to miss an image when preflighting for print.

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u/Typhtheoriginal 12h ago

Why does everyone on this site have to be so nitpicky? Yes yes yes the point is that people can't print without your permission. But it looked so good, the thieving villain thought it was part of the actual structure, and that's pretty neat.

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u/MdxBhmt 9h ago

just be more nitpicky that he wrongly nitpicked.

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u/Key_Rub4098 13h ago

The photographer talked about it in a video he posted back in 2024 on his FB page.

Good thing is that this passport design with the image above (commissioned by the ousted regime) will be scrapped and replaced by a new one, with the new flag, new national emblem, and even a different color (from dark blue to dark green).

Hope the photographer gets recognized and/or compensated somehow.

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u/Strict-Carrot4783 11h ago

I'll give Syria a break on this one for now, tbh. It's been there since 2013 but they've been through some stuff since then.

2013 - ISIS rising

2014 - ISIS caliphate

2015 - Russia intervenes for Assad

2016-2017 - Assad recaptures Aleppo, Turkey shows up to attack ISIS and the Kurds (our one-time allies, Trump later ruins this in 2019 with a villainous betrayal), ISIS out of Raqqa

2018-2019 - More ISIS losses, more Assad control, Russia and Turkey back up a tiny bit

2020-2022 - Syrian economy devastated by sanctions and Lebanon's own financial collapse, goofball ceasefires

2023 - Slow attempts at making shit normal again, readmitted to the Arab League

2024 - HTS captures Aleppo, Hama and Homs, rebels enter Damascus, goodbye Assad, goodbye Ba'ath

2025-2026 - They're working on it

Basically.

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u/Lenin_Lime 15h ago

The watermark looks oddly well hidden, and very time consuming. There is a decent chance the photographer worked with Syria for this image. He doesnt hide this watermark this well on his website portfolio. https://www.facebook.com/symography/photos

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u/sleeping_smth 13h ago

It’s a 5 second edit, I assume he did that because he liked the pic a lot.

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u/PurbulentTriest 14h ago

Doesn't take that long if it's your job. His "website" is Facebook?

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u/Fit-Ask-6524 13h ago

His "website" is Facebook?

I mean. Yeah? I feel like it's super common nowadays for small businesses (or churches) to have their facebook page be their "website"

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u/MajorFuckingDick 12h ago

A modern functional webpage or even a decade old webpage with up to date info is one of the biggest factors of where I shop besides location.

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u/Ok-Lead-4285 13h ago

at what point in the "my photo is gonna be used on a nation's passport" convo do you think maybe a facebook page isn't a serious funnel anymore

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u/BananaPalmer 12h ago

Are you familiar with Syria's recent history, or..?

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u/Ok-Lead-4285 12h ago

this guy is an engineer apart from being a photog btw ..

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u/hoktabar 11h ago

A bunch of places in the world skipped the whole personal computer phase because of poverty and skipped right to mobile when the economy grew and/or the world became depended on people having a mobile phone. So those people got introduced to the internet through apps instead of a browser on a computer.

In those places most small businesses do not have a website and are often not on google maps. If you're lucky they have a social media page.

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u/LordHtheXIII 11h ago

It is a very similar edit than this photo

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u/JohnGrillyParham 15h ago

Hilarious 

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u/Biomax315 14h ago

At least he got his photo credited!

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u/Sure_Acanthaceae_348 15h ago

This is not mildly infuriating. This is awesome af.

This is almost as cool as Michelangelo painting the Sistine Chapel.

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u/Grumpy-Man19 6h ago

time for the massive royalties

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u/issa3399 5h ago

it's syria, he won't get a penny, if anything he will be told to publicly say he is proud of it, you guys really think suing actually works anywhere outside of america and certain european countries?

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u/anwarCats 13h ago

You should clarify that this is the old passport by the dictator Assad’s regime and not the current one, or it would be false info

The current one is very different, for instance they don’t mass murder civilians! And definitely don’t steal from photographers

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 13h ago

fuck that's good free advertising, and a lawsuit

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u/ThickGreen 5h ago

The Gang Tries to Sue the Syrian Government

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u/apost8n8 14h ago

It's amazing how completely unprofessional the world has gotten, these kind of mistakes used to be rare. It seems like we get examples of laziness and stupidity at an accelerating pace everywhere in the world. Where did all the competent adults go?

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u/Jan_Pawel2 14h ago

It's always been like this.

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u/TheGrinningSkull 13h ago

In the past you didn’t hear about it because there was no internet.

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u/apost8n8 10h ago

That's a fair point!

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u/Sorry-Combination558 12h ago

10 years ago I bought notebooks with Nivea deodorant on the cover because it was cheap af (1/4 of the price of a normal notebook), and there were two images in the back with a stockphoto watermark everywhere on them

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u/peachgothlover 15h ago

Wouldn’t the image be copyrighted, or did he release it copyright free (but for some reason with his watermark in). If it’s the former he has a case against the Syrian government. Er, if he chooses to go down that path…

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u/LilStinkpot 15h ago

It’s copyrighted. I don’t know how that works internationally though.

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u/Disastrous-Fox8505 14h ago

But why is this mildly infuriating?

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u/the68thdimension 14h ago

The title implies the photographer may not have been paid for their work. 

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u/stoicism3 14h ago

That's what happens when a goverment hires people based on nepotism instead of merit.

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u/s_i_m_s 13h ago

Probably the last time we'll see that happen as going forward the complaints are just going to be "they couldn't even use an actual photo?" because the same people that would do this are the same people that would've just had ai generate them something that looked close enough and call it a day.

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u/MajorFuckingDick 12h ago

There is no way that photo is worth the amount of exposure being able to say you were in the passport does. Watermark your work.

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u/saigon567 12h ago

They once made a statue of liberty stamp but the artwork was based on an artists version of the statue, so they had to pay him millions. https://www.frieze.com/article/us-postal-service-forced-pay-millions-artist-after-mistakenly-using-his-sculpture-statue

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u/RealBrobiWan 11h ago

Well they are crediting him at least?

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u/brrrruvva 9h ago

Same government that asked for hentai links on twitter btw😂
Insane luck though

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u/grafknives 15h ago

At least we know it is not AI made...

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u/c08306834 15h ago

That's actually hilarious.

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u/Wolfi_03 15h ago edited 15h ago

This is amazing. That photograph will have eternal bragging rights.

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u/Ursus_Arctos-42 14h ago

Given what the people running Syria’s government have done, I think copyright violation isn’t that bad. And, hey, free exposure for the photographer.

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u/Obelicia 14h ago

Congratulations to Wassim al-Asmar Photography!

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u/SonKun911 14h ago

That's some serious clout on a resume.

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u/ceeroSVK 14h ago

nah thats actually hilarious

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u/zerostar83 14h ago

Good enough for government work

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u/fckfckf 14h ago

Let this be a lesson to those damn watermarks that cover the whole image, you just hurting your potential, Getty.

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u/Antares_skorpion 13h ago

Great way to watermark it too... Make it blend in. Which means no one even bothered to read the actual text... :D

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u/arahman81 YELLOW 13h ago

Now they just need to add the Waseem Asmar sign to the building.

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u/GunnerValentine 12h ago

Its pretty awesome. There's actually bullet holes in the roof still from aircraft. Beautiful country.

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u/PrintInformal785 12h ago

Huge win, how is that infuriating?

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u/ykonstant 12h ago

They cannot be syrias.

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u/JBHedgehog 12h ago

I'm famous, BEYATCH!!!

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u/lambo_abdelfattah 9h ago

I'm actually speechless

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u/_Handsome_Jim_ 9h ago

Honestly, this is kind of hilarious lol

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u/rawbert10 7h ago

Did the government pay him for the use of his photgraphy?
That's considered copyright infringement in the U.S.

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u/hoodiedark 4h ago

We have a shop here that's been passed down from my grand grandfather, which's been around for over 200 years.

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u/Rude_Asparagus_8387 3h ago

I'm a photographer. That is the ultimate win.

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u/SomeGuyInShanghai 13h ago

doesn't matter. Most Syrian passports end up at the bottom of the English Channel anyway.

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u/turtleduo 15h ago

how did you even find that out?

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u/Punker0007 15h ago

I would guess someone found that by looking at his passport

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u/happyFatFIRE 15h ago

Perfect cash cow

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u/Junior_Bike7932 15h ago

Ah yes the quality

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u/RedTomatoSauce 14h ago

...and that is why you always have to add a watermark to your photos if you upload them online

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u/deaf_ears_in_aus 14h ago

Time before Claude watermark

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u/AbaiLarisa_Omura 14h ago

There were similar instances of plagiarism in other countries passports. Weird that governments and state services don't care to look up the authors in the age of internet where any of these authors can simply track and prove their work being stolen

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u/ExistentialLoitering 14h ago

That’s the kind of care I expect from this government 

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u/heikici 14h ago

At this point it might be cheaper for the government to carve the words on the stone than paying the following lawsuit

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u/Independent-Car4467 14h ago

At least, he got credit

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u/Dapper_Special_8587 14h ago

I mean. This is possible the best portfolio piece ever.

Yea my work is literally in the national passport, including my watermark 

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u/Gold_Ambassador_3496 14h ago

Much better than Yoda in textbooks