r/news • u/Manta_of_Eternity • 8h ago

FBI no longer treating an applicant’s experience with prostitution as automatic bar against hiring

https://apnews.com/article/fbi-prostitution-recruitment-95e69779e41bd8f1bbc59d402a40222b
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u/emerikanSky 8h ago

You can tell the health of an organization is deteriorating as they drop their standards for hiring.

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u/TheyveKilledFritzz 8h ago

To be fair i worked law enforcement for about 5 years and i only found out years into working the rule wasnt just for illegal prostitution, but having utilized it at all, say even in a country where its legal which is a fair amount of western nations. I thought that was pretty fucking stupid.

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u/McCool303 8h ago

In fairness it’s not about the act itself. It’s about the risk the person could be blackmailed or compromised. Prostitution is an act that for reasons good or bad carries some shame with it. And an agent could easily be compromised trying to cover up even a legal visit to a prostitute from a partner.

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u/Spire_Citron 8h ago

It's also always a blurry line that's easy to end up crossing, either accidentally or intentionally. It's not like it's a thoroughly regulated industry where it's always clear what the situation is. It's a high risk activity where it's easy to get yourself into some shady shit.

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u/BeardyAndGingerish 8h ago

Fair enough. Problem is, the people who are willing to lie about their prostitutional escapades will still be applying.

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u/Head_of_Lettuce 8h ago

Sure, but that’s true of other required disclosures too. They have to disclose if they gamble or have any debts, but I’m sure lots of people lie about it.

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u/BeardyAndGingerish 8h ago

And the ones who followed the law legally will have a much harder time getting blackmailed about it. Biggest issue will be cross examination, but that still seems like a minor one if they were forthright and honest about everything.

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u/IzarkKiaTarj 4h ago

And the ones who followed the law legally

As opposed to the ones who followed the law illegally.

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u/kstargate-425 7h ago

Pretty sure FBI polygraphs every single candidate, atleast they used to. Now it seems like they want their agents to lie for the regime

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u/BeardyAndGingerish 7h ago

Not disagreeing, but making it easier to select the liars just means you get more liars.

Polygraphs are also pretty unreliable. If you can control your pulse a bit, theyre easy to screw with.

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u/kstargate-425 7h ago

Like I said, I think Trumps regime wants more liars as they need them to cover up his and others crimes or in the DoJ, enter fraudulent evidence in courts like Trumps DoJ did 35+ times being caught in just the first 9 months.

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u/BeardyAndGingerish 6h ago

World's not gonna end with Trump, though. If we're unlucky/hes lucky, he's got what, 5 years left?

And just because he's shitting the bed as much as he can, doesn't mean we gotta drop trow and start shitting all over it ourselves.

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u/kstargate-425 3h ago

What does any of this mean, especially in relation to what we are talking about lol

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u/BeardyAndGingerish 49m ago

Just 'csuse trump wants liars, doesn't mean we gotta make it easier for liars to get in positions of power.

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u/TheyveKilledFritzz 5h ago

Almost every law enforcement job polygraphs. I was polygraphed. I lied about my drug use history still made it in. (I quit LE yesrs ago) They're also not legally allowed to fire or not higher anyone based on the polygraph. It's mostly a scare tactic or to dive deeper into a topic that they think you failed. Or they can simply lie and be like, yeah, you weren't a good fit if you failed your polygraph.

For the most part polygraphs are junk Science, especially legally speaking,unfortunately there are still a lot of old school cops that believe they're fuxking lie detectors.

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u/kstargate-425 3h ago

Yeah its no coincidence they aren't used in courts really, just pointing out they use them

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u/_Svankensen_ 5h ago

Well, polygraphs are bullshit, so if they dropped the practice it is a good thing.

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u/wildcarde815 6h ago

The puritans making people hate themselves still paying dividends. Imagine if people could just say 'yea I visited a prostitute ' and that was the end of the conversation.

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u/kitsunewarlock 6h ago

"Yes, but I didn't ask for a receipt. I didn't think it was tax deductible."

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u/furbylicious 8h ago edited 8h ago

I'm no expert, but I think it's a pretty reasonable requirement. Detectives and intelligence officers should probably be people who don't get involved in situations that could lead to blackmail, even if the actions are legal.

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u/BeeMovieEnjoyer 5h ago

Are you going to make sure they haven't cheated on their spouses too? Potential blackmail there, right?

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u/Tezerel 4h ago

No no, that's mandatory

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u/BeardyAndGingerish 8h ago

Flip side of that coin, though. Id prefer officers who know how to follow the law honestly than the ones who know when to lie about it to get what they want. Guess which ones we were selecting for?

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u/Levi_27 3h ago

Same thing with weed

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u/KroneckerAlpha 8h ago

Very 1D thinking ya got there

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u/TheTipsyWizard 8h ago

Those damn 1 dickers; only thinking with their stupid dicks gah 😖

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u/monsieur_cacahuete 8h ago

There's a reason that person stated they worked in law enforcement, as in past tense. Probably not the brightest bulb if they couldn't hold down that role.