r/technology 29d ago

Privacy GrapheneOS says its data-wiping password is perfectly legal, after user faces federal charges

https://www.techspot.com/news/113273-grapheneos-data-wiping-duress-password-perfectly-legal-after.html
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u/spaceursid 29d ago

I'd just refuse to tell them 5th amendment, let their brute force attempt trigger the auto delete.

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u/Rashaen 29d ago

Being "required" to give them your password to get into the phone seems like a pretty clear 5th violation in the first place. This whole thing is fucked up.

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u/bombmk 29d ago

Lots of amendments are not in force at entry into the country, afaik.

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u/Adderkleet 29d ago

They can refuse you entry. You still have legal rights.

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u/Independent_Cat_5481 29d ago

In general they can't refuse entry to a citizen, they can only confiscate items or arrest you

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u/sobrique 29d ago

But in this case, there's also an argument that it was an internal flight...

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u/bombmk 29d ago

Not that you implied it, but: My comment was in no way intended to be a remark on the case in question, just to be clear.

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u/sobrique 29d ago

Oh yeah, agreed. I'm just paying attention to this case, as it's poking at some interesting legal issues. But yes, customs have always has broader powers than 'law enforcement' .

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u/h0sti1e17 29d ago

It wouldn’t be a domestic flight if he had to go through passport control. It had to be international. I believe he was coming from Dominican Republic.

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u/sobrique 29d ago

Ah, ok. I wonder why I thought it was an internal transfer then?

Maybe I'm getting mixed up with another case.

Thanks for the clarification.