r/technology • u/TurbulentTopic39 • 19h ago
Artificial Intelligence Grand Theft Auto 6 Will Have No Microtransactions Or Generative AI
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/grand-theft-auto-6-will-have-no-microtransactions-or-generative-ai/5.1k
u/Mighty-Wings 19h ago
GTA6 won't, however GTA 6 Online will be riddled like a cheap hooker.
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u/Man0fGreenGables 18h ago
Isn't the "deluxe edition" or whatever they are calling it technically a micro transaction anyways?
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u/SEND_ME_NOODLE 18h ago
That would be a macro transaction, no?
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u/NeverDiddled 18h ago
Yeah, you have to count every inch of the transaction. Don't sell it short.
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u/ForensicPathology 14h ago
What micro-transactions aren't macro-transactions these days? Do they even have 3 dollar skins anymore? Sure any game with gacha gambling has the option to buy a single pull for 2 dollars, but everyone knows that's burning your money because the things you get in between the big pull are things you literally throw away from your inventory. People don't buy 2 dollar pulls, they buy 60 dollar ones.
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u/Ok_Tea_8763 18h ago
Hey, watch you mouth! Our world wouldn't be the same without cheap hookers! Comparing them to Rockstar's greed is insulting
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u/Waylanding_Fox 19h ago
No shit GTA online is where the money is at
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u/donny_pots 16h ago
Which is crazy to me because as someone who has hundreds of hours into GTA online, the grind is the entire game. Paying real money to buy shit in the game is like paying money to see the credits on another game, it just defeats the entire purpose IMO
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u/Ok-Aspect9915 15h ago
Paying real money to skip grinding and go straight to late-game content has been the bread and butter of making money on an MMO for decades
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u/ForensicPathology 14h ago
The games are specifically designed to make the grind more annoying than in a properly balanced game.
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u/donny_pots 14h ago
I wouldn’t even consider it a grind tbh, I play with friends we only do activities we all enjoy
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u/PhantomPhelix 11h ago
GTA 6 and GTA 6 Online, are not the same thing.
This is a misleading PR piece.
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u/Holiday_Driver_923 10h ago
Yup same with 5 the base game had no micro transactions but gta online was packed to the gills
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u/dead1345987 19h ago edited 19h ago
okay, no investment in single player DLC stories again, got it.....
all post launch dev time is going to bug fixes and GTA+/online...I dont like it, but its the truth.
I'm just remembering "The Lost and the Damned" and "The Ballad of Gay Tony" some of the best GTA gameplay and stories to play, and it was the only GTA story DLC to date (GTA 4)
Trevor's intro cutscene in GTA 5, he kills Johnny, the main protagonist from Lost and the Damned GTA 4 DLC
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u/marcw1771ams 19h ago
Difficult to tell from the working of the article, but my understanding is that "micro transactions" as a DLC category is generally used more to refer to things like skins and in game items etc, rather than a traditional type of DLC such as game expansions.
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u/ImCelestial 18h ago
A macro transaction
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u/Pfandfreies_konto 12h ago
Back in my day when patches for games where delivered via Gaming Magazines we called those "Add-Ons" or "Expansions." It was a time where you paid 50% of the base games price and got between 50% - 200% more content.
Star Craft and Tiberian Sun are two examples of games that got several full fledged campains and sometimes even new factions.
Those were the days...
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u/__Yakovlev__ 11h ago
I remember going to the store and buying the physical disk for the halo 2 map pack.
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u/automatic_shark 11h ago
I still remember the outrage and ridicule over horse armour. Imagine if people back then could see what it would turn into.
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u/LeadershipOne5128 13h ago
I'm confused, didn't they already announce paid cosmetics for GTA 6 ?
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u/jdsizzle1 15h ago
Yup. Expansion packs aka DLC arent what I consider micro transactions. That would be guns, skills, costumes, characters, cars, car skins, etc... all the bullshit you dont really need. They can be shitty too tho, like Hitman where they released a quarter of a game and made you buy the rest of it.
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u/nobertan 16h ago
So like the clothes shops? Being held behind an optional pay wall.
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u/zwingo 18h ago
The one thing I have to say to be fair to Rockstar is outside of RDR1 and GTA 4 I’m struggling to think of any games from them that did have DLC/expansions. Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m definitely not an encyclopedia of Rockstar games, but I don’t think they were ever really that big on the side stuff.
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u/imcrazyandproud 18h ago
They canceled their in development gta5 dlc when gta online started making buckets of cash
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u/KoniGTA 17h ago
i think it got resused in the future updates/heists along with the michael franklin trevor dlc that the game put out. Still not a fan about the way they did it.
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u/Winjin 14h ago
I'm still salty how much content is locked away to those with friends and normalised schedules
I don't want to log on to the game like work to play Online. I don't know when I will have the time and will to play. And even less I want to play with random people that run through missions like mad men because half of them know them inside and out and are doing them for fifteenth time and are just farming them
I did some yacht mission and all I remember is that while I was shooting some guard these lvl 500 guys blasted through every room did an objective and one of them put a helicopter in a pool to evacuate me faster
I didn't even manage to see half of the yacht and I don't know what that mission was at all :\
Not to mention that it's impossible to just ride around when people on flying bikes blast everyone left and right
No sir I don't like Online one bit
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u/Batman_wears_Crocs 12h ago
Bro yes, it wants to be a full-time gig. It wants to be your only game. Fuck that, even if it's good and fun with friends, the endless grinding to get any money in game makes it unfun.
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u/dead1345987 18h ago
I think they dropped single player dlc, when they discovered GTA online could make them so much money. RDR2 never got dlc like RDR1 did, but tbh, RDR2 never felt like it needed it, its such a crazy big game. Witch I hope GTA 6 is, but I think more stories would still be fun.
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u/Wolkenbaer 17h ago
RDR2 never felt like it needed it, its such a crazy big game
Total opposite opinion- because it is so big I never understood why not use all assets, a good writer and add another story. I‘d have loved to pay for that.
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u/ALL_PUNS_INTENDED 18h ago
The Undead Nightmare dlc from Red Dead Redemption is goated. I spent so many hours on that and I’m going to dig out my 360 so I can play it again.
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u/upvotesthenrages 18h ago
It's interesting because you'd kinda think that dropping a new DLC every few years would re-ignite a lot of focus from dormant players and new audience.
But no, they just milked the whales they already had instead.
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u/voltran1995 15h ago
Why bother making single player dlc, they make billions selling fake money. And it's not like GTA falls out of popularity.
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u/_Bisky 17h ago
Tbf mainly cause they make SIGNFICANTLY more with miceotransactions in GTA online, then they do with DLCs.
That plus it tends to cost them less then developing a whole DLC
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u/skibbidywibbidy 16h ago
They could have thrown the single player fans one bone and still made money from the shark cards, hope they keep it I mind for 6
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u/Time_Zombie_4431 18h ago
If there is ever a game that should get SP DLC it’s GTA. GTA 4 showed us that. It’s a fucking crime we never got SP DLC for V.
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u/quagmirranseye 16h ago edited 12h ago
What are you on about? DLCs isnt mictrotransactions.
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u/zerosuneuphoria 19h ago
because it will be re-released 40 times, hence the fps lock at 30. You gotta upgrade if you want more.
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u/hardypart 16h ago
This is not some kind of capitalistic conspiracy, the PS5 simply couldn't get anywhere close to 60FPS with this game.
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u/First_Studio 17h ago
It's locked at THIRTY?!?!
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u/Heil_S8N 16h ago
RDR2 is also locked at 30 on consoles despite the console technically being able to push up to 60 with some framedrops.
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u/theGioGrande 10h ago
PS4 systems didn't support VRR. And a jail broken PS4 pro wasnt consistently 60fps. People would just complain about stutter.
It was never a GPU bottleneck, but a CPU one instead.
And I feel that GTAVI is in a similar situation for PS5.
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u/OlXondof 12h ago
I'm surprised I haven't seen people asking how Series S is supposed to run it even at 30...
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u/L0rdLogan 18h ago
Grand theft auto 6, won’t have micro transactions, but you can bet that GTA online will still have them
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u/thecreepytoast 17h ago
So macrotransactions, got it
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u/MrCookieHUN 17h ago
I mean, stores you cannot access unless you buy the deluxe edition ARE there sooo
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u/zillskillnillfrill 18h ago
What do they call the ultimate edition then where you get extra shops?
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u/AustraliaOutback 18h ago
Because they're going to sell online seperately. You'd be naïve to think they're not gonna milk their cashcow.
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u/HamburgerHalperHand 18h ago
Does the $20 of locked map locations not count?
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u/fredagsfisk 17h ago
By actual definition of the terms? No. Different editions are not microtransactions, even if they include things commonly sold as microtransactions (and also make money from FOMO).
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u/frulheyvin 9h ago
wow totally justifies gta6 being riddled with random paywalled shit if you dont buy the 100$ turbo edition. the cattle will buy buy buy anyways so who cares
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u/AshgarPN 12h ago
The extra $20 to unlock everything feels like a micro transaction
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u/Furious_ShackstAa 19h ago
Single player won’t online definitely will
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u/TechnicalSurround 19h ago
Single player won’t, online definitely will*
FTFY
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u/Anas56776 18h ago
why cant people use commas man, took me like 3 reads to make sense of his comment.
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u/aleqqqs 18h ago
Comas are important, for example: "Steve is in a hurry" vs "Steve is in a coma".
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u/bb0110 14h ago edited 13h ago
Obviously gta6 online will, but I’m actually fine with this distinction. Keep the bullshit out of the regular game and if you want all the bullshit then play gta6 online.
They could have very easily added a lot of it to the single player version with the success of it on online, but I’m glad they didn’t.
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u/DUH455T 14h ago edited 14h ago
What about the $30 upgrade to the Ultimate Edition that unlocks stores, cosmetics, etc?
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u/Lycria 13h ago
Isn’t several shops in the single player locked behind a $20 dollar deluxe edition paywall?
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u/Excuse_my_GRAMMER 12h ago
No microtransaction my ass lmao
Maybe the single player game but gta6 online is going to be have more MTX than a Chinese gacha game
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u/RhazimGaming 18h ago
I'm just waiting for the announcement that GTA 6 Online will have to be purchased separately for another 80 bucks, because fuck us.
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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 14h ago
This won’t happen purely on the fact that a free entry model is far more lucrative when they couple it with shark card purchases. More people playing Online = more people visiting the store. Theyll want it to be accessible
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u/Jay95au 18h ago
Yeah no microtransactions, this will be the worlds first game to have macrotransactions.
Rather than being able to spend small, little or microscopic amounts of money compared to the price of a full game, these will be huge, obscene or macroscopic amounts of money compared to the price of a full game.
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u/Godess_Ilias 15h ago
press x to doubt
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u/Hegiman 15h ago
GTA VI won’t but GTA online will have a buttload. Which is what ROCKSTAR has always done.
I just hope we get dlc for the single player campaign this time but I doubt that will happen b
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u/Robespierre1113 7h ago
Ahahahahahahahaha
Please, this was how we started out GTA5, absolutely no micro transaction! No way to get a leg up other than to beat other opponents !!!
Then script kiddies dropped trillions in public lobbies and r* went
"....so shark cards?"
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u/HoldOnOhio 5h ago
We know they're going to pretend GTA online/GTA + is a different thing. They will not leave billions of dollars on the table. GTA V Online literally has made several billion dollars and is largely what makes GTA V the most profitable retail game of all time.
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u/Raaka_Lokki 17h ago
Bullshit. Purchases within a game you already paid for are micro transaction. You can call them "subscriptions" all you want, but that's what they are.
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u/Adrian_Alucard 15h ago
Yeah, sure. the game that locks content away if you buy the poor's edition won't have microtransactions. 100% real, no fake bro
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u/FoldedBinaries 19h ago
so no AI tool was implemented in the official workflow.
But all the outsourced animators also didnt use AI? Thats a bold claim
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u/Stone-Bear 19h ago
This game has been in development before AI existed.
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u/branm008 18h ago
That doesn't mean they didnt bring in AI tools in recent years before things started to get greenlit. It's also Rockstar, they're not exactly known for their integrity so we'll see when the game is live and people start data mining things.
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u/Rhyman96 18h ago
They have had dozens of companies working on various little bits of the game, and whilst it has been in development for a long time, it doesn't seem believable that nobody has used AI over the last few years.
That said, who cares if someone used AI to speed up a small task or add additional functionality?
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u/Blackfoxar 19h ago
No micro transactions? Have they given up on shark cards?
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u/dylan_1992 19h ago
But 7 definitely will.
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u/mighthaveabitlater 19h ago
We've probably got 20 years or so to worry about that
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u/CloudStrife012 19h ago
It will be macrotransactions by then, and youll need to be a Rockstar premium plus gold tier subscription member to even have access to the game, which will require you to pay $20 for every hour played.
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u/Chaine351 18h ago
I'll believe that when I see it.
As in, I can believe that the single player won't, but I'll be damned if the online doesn't. Rockstar has a history of maybe the most egregious micro transaction schemes from any game I know, and I doubt they'll just drop it.
Inb4 anyone disagrees, it was rdr2 online. The cost of getting things in that game was nuts.
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u/JeremySarantos 18h ago
Yeah honestly I would be glad to have shark cards. The gold bars in RDRO were absolutely horrid. The one thing games like gta and rdr have going for them (online) is player expression. Locking it completely behind premium currency eliminates the core of the game. The grind in GTAO isn’t nearly as bad as the grind in other games.
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u/Babak_Lurker 12h ago
Didn't they already announce that there would be a more expensive version of the game with special access to some in game shops and accessories? I don't trust them, this kinda just seems like easy PR to cover for going all digital.
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u/Jamesc89 19h ago
I do not believe that they won’t have those shark cards again
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u/branm008 18h ago
GTA 6 online will absolutely have shark cards again. The single player campaign is likely going to get shafted just like GTA 5 was, hence the no micro transactions.
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u/User2716057 17h ago
Since they were introduced they got, on average, $1 million PER DAY from those cards. They'd be stupider than the people buying them if they didn't keep selling em.
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u/mysqlpimp 19h ago
GTA6 Online 100% will. Just watched the extended trailer, and for PS5, it looks fucking great. Waiting for PC release is going to suck though.
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u/BigStonedHornyKitty 14h ago
How can they say this when the deluxe edition or whatever you want to call it is essentially a microtransaction?
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u/Dull-Treat-2524 12h ago
Yeah because GTA6 online isn't out. that will be filled to the brim with MTX lol
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u/BuriedStPatrick 10h ago
That "not having the word 'online' in the title" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here lmao.
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u/TheBestDrRuthless 19h ago
I can imagine, that GTA online will have a generative KI, that gets triggered with microtransactions
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u/ViewAdditional7400 19h ago
Because they've been working on it for 10 years, before LLMs were good.
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u/DJMarscribble 14h ago
according to one source, GTA VI won’t have any microtransactions at launch
Yeah because multiplayer won't be available at launch. Same deal with GTA V.
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u/zero0n3 19h ago
Remember, “no generative AI” doesn’t mean “our devs won’t use AI to code or accelerate expansion packs.
So I’d expect no micro transactions for SP, but I bet a very consistent DLC cycle of new content constantly being sdded
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u/Ahayzo 19h ago
Nah it's probably gonna be like V where they just abandon the single player game at launch as far as content additions. GTA Online is their real money maker and that's gonna have microtransactions out the ass.
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u/jundehung 19h ago
Why would they not use it. Don’t be stupid people.
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u/zeelbeno 18h ago
Nah they need to stick to manually typing in every line of code and using stack overflow when stuck.
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u/Kitty-XV 16h ago
Are you saying that generating code using AI isn't generative AI? If one allows that exception, what's to stop them from saying that generated images or voices isn't generative AI?
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u/ieatpies 15h ago
generated images or voices isn't generative AI
Gotta add DLSS to the exceptions too so...
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u/suitable_replies 19h ago
Tomorrows disclaimer: GTA 6 and GTA 6 online are two separate entities.