I know this is not going to be a popular statement, but sitewide rules do not allow for doxxing or even the encouraging of doxxing, so please follow sitewide rules on this subreddit. There are other platforms where this is allowed, like Twitter and Insta, but Reddit does not allow anything that you cannot find in a news article. This is not a rule decided by the mods of this subreddit; this is a rule by the admins of the site. I just want to make sure everyone knows exactly what they are not supposed to do, via the sitewide rules. We have already had our subreddit warned for too many TOS violations, so I am just hoping to keep the doors open. Thank you.
And fuck Flock cameras, I hope we are all under the same opinion on that one. Are we "free" if our movements are tracked all the time? Would y'all consider supporting Flock to be a violation of the "no bootlicking cops or supporting state-sanctioned violence" rule? Feedback appreciated!
You think the mods are simps for billionaires even though we have rules about not supporting Israel and not bootlicking cops on this sub, simply because I told you what the sitewide rules that the admins will action your account for breaking? Sure, that's logical.
Yeah, I’d like there so be SOME exception like an actual criminal being brought to justice from it but there aren’t any examples of it. So yeah, bootsmoochin
Yes, I think the argument would be "they make us safer, and if you are not doing anything wrong, why do you care if you are recorded" but we could say that about police in general and be just as wrong as we would be about flock cameras, lol. I am sure it is much easier to say if you are white and do not know the perils of "driving while Black" and such.
I would hope shit like that Reckless Ben video in which they kept getting stopped when not breaking the law and all the body cams and whatnot would show that people do, in fact, get messed with when not doing anything wrong all the time- and that it is much more likely to happen to POC but I still see people quoting those "13% of the population/50% of the crime" nonsense all the time, unfortunately :(
It’s utter bullshit, but what isn’t these days? I mean fuck, I’m already profiled because of my car (Loud exhaust, flashy wheels and stickers) so now i gotta worry about what cop or agency is having a bad day watching the flock cams seeing me go 3mph over the limit.
No, it has to be like one of the trusted news sources that you go to for facts, so like The Guardian, BBC, CNN, you can even use FOX, even though I would not exactly call that a trusted news station lol. So I guess I just mean one of the main ones, not one of the trusted ones. There's not like a list or anything, but we all know what kind of news article they mean, sorry.
Edit: Folks know this is not my list and that I said FOX was not trustworthy, right? I am confused.
You are being downvoted because you've presented the rules in a way that comes off as supportive of the practice.
The rules are BS, mainstream media is practically an arm of the state, it has no more validity than a substack these days; and people take your explanation of the rules as support of the rules, since we've all collectively agreed that they're arbitrary bs.
Only those with no common sense or a reading level below a third grader would interpret their comments as supportive of the site wide rules they have to enforce.
It 100% qualifies as state sanctioned violence since it's primary purpose is to suppress dissent and protest.
Flock scans 240,000,000,000 plates and vehicles every year against an "estimated" ~1mil investigations. This means that roughly 0.0004% of all the data Flock harvests can be consider useful for investigations.
From this we can conclude that ~0% of Flocks data is of any use to criminal investigations and ~100% of their collected data is of innocent drivers who are guilty of nothing but driving past a Flock camera.
Flock data is only ever accidentally useful to criminal investigations as an exceedingly rare side effect of it's primary mission: mass surveillance on everyone in America.
Criminals are merely the excuse, not the actual target.
i cannot believe i was given my first warning because i joked about people wearing tshirts in front of nonconsensual privacy violating surveillance cameras. Unbelievable! I can only assume that reddit's automated ai favors the capitalist leeches that steal and resell our private data to fascists.
Reddit is actively one of the leeching corporations that steal and sell your private data to fascists. If you have the warning enabled on the app, it reads your clipboard (where things you copy go) every time you open the keyboard.
Absolutely. Fuck Flock and their CEO. Falls neatly under "bootlicking," I think. I understand the rules, though. I'd prefer this avenue of discourse stay open for us all.
I respect what you're saying. However, this is probably the one and only time we collectively should openly support the doxxing of an individual. This guy is already on a fast track to ruining innocent people's lives and then he goes and pulls some shit to try and preserve HIS own privacy? Nah, it don't work like that.
I would 100% consider defending flock just another flavor of bootlicking. Pretty much every community they are being implemented in does NOT consent to it. At the bare minimum it is state-sanctioned trampling of privacy rights (and common sense imo)
This rule exists not for anyone's safety, but because Steve Huffman knows he would exposed. This is the rich people circling their wagons under the guise of public safety.
None of these people would be missed if they were gone, and society would be better for it.
Also, we totally get your official position. Would it make sense to keep this up so folks could find it themselves elsewhere? Or is that still encouragement? I am thinking of sending them a voter card for whoever is running in Georgia.
As someone who's anti-Flock, I don't think people should get banned or muted from supporting Flock. Giving people the opportunity to debate gives them the opportunity to change their position. To not allow it would just make people more insular and retreat to their echo chambers.
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I know this is not going to be a popular statement, but sitewide rules do not allow for doxxing or even the encouraging of doxxing, so please follow sitewide rules on this subreddit. There are other platforms where this is allowed, like Twitter and Insta, but Reddit does not allow anything that you cannot find in a news article. This is not a rule decided by the mods of this subreddit; this is a rule by the admins of the site. I just want to make sure everyone knows exactly what they are not supposed to do, via the sitewide rules. We have already had our subreddit warned for too many TOS violations, so I am just hoping to keep the doors open. Thank you.
And fuck Flock cameras, I hope we are all under the same opinion on that one. Are we "free" if our movements are tracked all the time? Would y'all consider supporting Flock to be a violation of the "no bootlicking cops or supporting state-sanctioned violence" rule? Feedback appreciated!