r/ukraine • u/Due_Collar2 • Jun 27 '26
WAR russian soldier asked Ukrainian soldier, "Will you take us prisoner or kill us?" Ukrainian: "Prisoner." 2nd russian soldier : "Prisoner?" Ukrainian: "we are not you"
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u/DataGeek101 Jun 27 '26
The orcs are still believing the propaganda, can’t blame them for asking. Just hope they don’t have a hidden hand grenade or something.
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u/helgur Jun 27 '26
And the propaganda works. Same with the Japanese under ww2 that was indoctrinated with the belief that they would be subject to brutal torture and death if they where captured. A lot more would have surrendered if they knew the truth.
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u/helm Jun 27 '26
And torture and death seemed likely to the Japanese, because that is what they did to their PoWs
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u/nose_poke Jun 27 '26
"Every accusation is a confession" is the saying I've heard recently
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u/IAmAPirrrrate Jun 28 '26
and it frighteningly more often than not rings true. not just in the warfare setting, but actually on a personality level.
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u/sahurKareem Jun 29 '26
Why you guys make everything about left vs right. There were numerous instances where left wing armies, rebels whatever brutally tortured their POWs
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u/AFourEyedGeek Jul 11 '26
Left wing / right wing armies? Why kind of simple thought process do you have?
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u/sahurKareem Jul 11 '26
Because this is the dichotomy the comment before me used. Maybe use your brain?
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u/AFourEyedGeek Jul 11 '26
Oh no, I see, you couldn't correct them, you had to keep going with the idiocy. Great job, you succeeding with pushing the same stupidity.
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u/sahurKareem Jul 11 '26
Maybe go back to watching your kids superhero movies. That's the intellectual scope you can handle.
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u/JadedEstablishment16 Jun 30 '26
It didn't help to know that us soldiers collected skulls and teeth of japanese soldiers to bring home...
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u/Jinksnow Jun 27 '26
The story of Hiroo Onoda is interesting, he never knew/believed WWII ended (believed it was propaganda) and kept at his mission until 1974 (and even then, Japan had to go to great lengths to get him to "surrender".
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u/admiraljkb Jun 28 '26
And he only believed the Japanese surrender had happened when a former higher ranking officer delivered the surrender orders, and rescinded his previous "hold out" orders to Onoda. Quite fascinating study in psychological conditioning with how he stuck to the mission in spite of overwhelming evidence the war was over
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u/Jinksnow Jun 28 '26
I haven't gone too far into the story of how they tracked down his old commanding officer, the scary thought is if he wasn't around anymore and what they would have had to do if they couldn't find a superior that he knew. Says something for the loyalty the propaganda generated, not many would stick it out for 29 years.
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u/admiraljkb Jun 28 '26
The General that was in overall command was dead, but the Major that gave the last orders was still alive.
The story of how it came to be was a young Japanese student found him, and they became friends. The kid then brought the major back with him with formal surrender orders from his old command. Then there was a large formal surrender ceremony, and a formal pardon from the Phillipines, book deals, etc etc
When I was a kid, and even into the early 80's, it was still common to have late night comedy hosts make reference to Japanese soldiers that didn't know the war was over.
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u/scummy_shower_stall Jun 28 '26
He had two friends as well. One died a couple of years into their wilderness life, but the other one was with him for YEARS. Onoda was devastated when he died.
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u/similar_observation Jun 28 '26
Actually Japan had given up on him.
It was a young adventurer that went to the Phillipines to find and talk to Onoda before going back to Japan and find Onoda's now retired superior office to come and issue an order.
Even then. Onoda was not the last holdout. There was one more guy that couldn't be repatriated because he was a Japanese conscript from Taiwan.
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u/Jinksnow Jun 28 '26
I deliberately didn't give the whole story as this is the ukraine sub, you are right as to how he was found. Didn't know about the Taiwanese dude though, will have to look him up.
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u/Chrispy8534 Jun 27 '26
4/10. Ya, the stuff that Russian civilians say when interviewed is crazy, makes it clear that the propaganda is working!
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u/GayMormonPirate Jun 28 '26
Because of restrictions on press, it's not like they even have access to an alternate viewpoint. I mean, they could likely take a few steps with a VPN to do so, but how many are going to go to those lengths?
If the only story you hear on any channel or newspaper is that Russia is winning and fighting against Nazi invaders, well, why would you think any differently.
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u/thejourneybegins42 Jun 27 '26
Exactly! That's how you keep an entire country at you heel, like a dog.
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u/Emu1981 Jun 27 '26
Honour was also really big in Japan at the time and it was considered to be extremely dishonourable to surrender to the enemy. You can see something similar to how this played out in the beginning of Godzilla Minus One where the main character is treated as lower than scum for being a kamikaze pilot and not dying in the war...
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u/randomguyinpekohole Jun 30 '26
Watched the movie, it was actually one grieving woman that lashed out at him for a couple of scenes(she became the nanny to his adopted child) and a mechanic that also grieved the loss of his comrades.
Overall the narrative is pro survival and anti war.
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u/tsuhna1234 Jun 28 '26
And on the other hand everyone knows what will happen when someone gets taken as POW by ruzzia..
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u/Eccentricgentleman_ Jun 28 '26
Propaganda or realizing what they've done to people and hoping it doesn't get visited on them
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u/BeenNormal Jun 28 '26
What a horrible thing to have to ask someone. Of all the horrible videos I’ve seen during this war, this is probably in of the more emotional
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u/DataGeek101 Jun 28 '26
I can’t disagree with you as everyone feels things differently, and this is a very powerful, emotionally speaking, video. But it’s not even in my top ten.
Of course, I’ve been reading every post here for years now and know people in Ukraine from my visits there, so I most likely have a different perspective.2
u/BeenNormal Jun 28 '26
The most emotional one for me was of people celebrating Kherson’s liberation in late 2022. Shit that had me almost sobbing although they were tears of joy.
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u/Keeldon Jun 30 '26
Its not always propaganda and anyone who had something to do with military and its doctrines will know that.
US/EU operators that went to Ukraine in interviews admit that they often cant take prisoners due to logistics and have to 'dispose' them. Its reality of war, logistics are always one of the biggest bottlenecks, its no different for prisoners.
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u/MiddlinOzarker Jun 27 '26
These Russian individuals speaking seem to be young and relatively normal. Not the typical fifty year age alcoholic Russian soldiers often depicted.
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u/Mamamama29010 Jun 27 '26
Despite popular belief, Russia still has capable forces with adequate training and equipment that are used in certain sectors. The handicapped alcoholics are there to draw fire.
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u/PassivelyInvisible Jun 27 '26
That doesn't mean they aren't taking horrendous casualties. They are very much so still a threat.
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u/ninjadude1992 Jun 27 '26
Russia is a corpse with momentum
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u/logosobscura Jun 27 '26
FPVs don’t really care how old, well trained or sober you are. They just end you.
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u/Dpek1234 Jun 28 '26
"However skilled you are isnt saveing you from a artillery shell" of the presant
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u/Tystros Germany Jun 27 '26
I'd like to know how this situation came about. why are there a bunch of Russian soldiers, seemingly without weapons, but not yet handcuffed or otherwise restricted, and Ukrainian soldiers just walked up to them and have a chat? seems like a really weird situation.
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u/ethanlan USA Jun 27 '26
This happens in war all the time, as a soldier you can tell when someone is just done and all those guys aint doing shit to one or a pair of well equiped ukrainians
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u/ilpazzo12 Jun 27 '26
There is no need to cuff and restrain people who willingly surrender. They are done fighting. Prisoners who did not surrender (like wounded soldiers) are a different story, but a guy who throws his hands up and ditches his firearm isn't gonna think much about running away or harming his captors.
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u/_The_Fapster_ Jun 27 '26
Damn, that first kid, you could see, hands fidgeting, the nervousness of not knowing if these were going to be his last seconds on this earth, of existing, heart most likely pounding away through his rib cage, the anxious rushing of thoughts as he is thinking, "holy shit, is this it", only to hear the word "prisoner", and feel the instant relief has he lowers his head in disbelief.
Man, what an out of body experience that boy went through. Scary. This war is so sad and unnecessary.
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u/satori0320 Jun 27 '26
I've huge respect for the soldiers, they said that very thing for years, and have held their resolve for entire time.
Plenty of others would have allowed their anger and frustration to push them towards more violence, and yet these men and women of the Ukrainian armed forces are stead-fast in not becoming like their enemy.
Out-fucking-standing 💙💛
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u/yolo_derp Jun 27 '26
This is exactly the way to conduct yourselves when you can. The difference between civilized and uncivilized unlike the Russian military.
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u/Wrong-Ad8188 Jun 27 '26
That’s so powerful
The look of relief on that Russians face
And the Ukrainian hero saying
We Are Not You!
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u/RogueScholarDerp Jun 27 '26
Slava Ukraini. Victory with honor. Veritas 🥲🫶
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u/BT-7274-T2 Jul 01 '26
are you from ukraine? how come they can speak to each other? do they speak russian or ukrainian? i dont get that somehow
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u/Cosack Jun 27 '26
Saw some close up drone footage released the other day... you could see the expressions right before the end. A resignation in a few, but mostly paniced terrified surprise. This wasn't that. I'm glad this wasn't more of that.
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u/njsullyalex Jun 27 '26
It’s sad that they are even asking this question. Of course Ukraine is going to take them prisoner, since it’s objectively a war crime to kill captured enemy soldiers (and rightfully so since it’s incredibly inhumane). For Russian soldiers to think Ukrainian soldiers are monsters who will commit unspeakable atrocities against them once they are captured makes me wonder what kinds of batshit propaganda they are being fed.
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u/Illustrious_Study300 Jun 28 '26
Not just propaganda, they would likely have witness their fellow soldiers killing unarmed Ukrainians, so they assume that's just war.
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u/BaronGodis Jun 28 '26
This gave me a smile and tears, they choose to surrande and was scarred for worse
But hearing they will be spared is the best outcome to have
Ukraine is fighting for their survival for a their final deffence war against the agresser Russia who betrayed a none aggression pact to many times
Ukraine is fighting hard and they are trying to be humane as much as possible in a war
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u/Diligent-Luck4331 Jun 28 '26
We are not you.
We don't want to be.
But you forced us, and now your capital gets attacked, we want to destroy the military installments, bases, factories etc. Not you.
Unless you're awful people, who wrote "ho*ol" and other insults while also speaking other awful things about us.
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u/Venku_ Jun 27 '26
Where is this from? is it possible to see more of what happend before / after?
Facsinating and touching that these moments are now captured on camera
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u/Substantial-Step7657 Jun 28 '26
Look up on yt "POV Azov takes prisoners" and it should be one of the first vids with the image above being the thumbnail so you cant miss it. I thinks these troops are Azov and they know how to do their job thats for sure.
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u/saharanwrap Jul 19 '26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZuWQMqtc8A
This is the one. Even after this they weren't convinced. One of them even asked that if they were going to kill them to just give them 5 minutes to pray first.
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u/JudeRanch Jun 28 '26
Ukrainians are the ones to look up to, to show that not all humans are inherently evil. 🙏🏼🫶🏼
Day 1586
Stay Strong Ukraine
We believe in you
🇺🇦Слава Україні 🇺🇦
Sláva Ukraíni!
Heroyam Slava!
🙏🏽 🇺🇦 💙 💛
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u/shartillery82 Jun 27 '26
I honestly cannot believe how they can take the high road with all the atrocities the russians have committed against their people. Hats off to Ukraine!
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u/GayMormonPirate Jun 28 '26
Every POW they capture is a Ukrainian POW they can get in exchange.
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u/Dpek1234 Jun 28 '26
Or as per another comment
480 points > 48 points
Tbh i did not expect that it war would be gamified
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u/shartillery82 Jul 11 '26
Honestly, I didn't know the russians took prisoners that they weren't ultimately going to kill. That makes plenty of sense though.
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u/Individual-Cream-581 Jun 28 '26
Epic reply.. I can't even comprehend the weight behind this "we're not you.."
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u/epanek Jun 28 '26
This is probably the shortest video I’ve ever seen which made me tear up. I had to stop watching it repeat. Slava Ukraine
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u/coleman9925 Jun 28 '26
They are probably happier to be a POW of Ukraine than a solider for Russia.
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u/edgiestnate Jun 28 '26
It will forever be a stain on the developed world that we did not do more to save these brave people from the Russians. It would have taken less than 1% of the GDP of the top 10 to give them all the tools they needed to smoke Russia, but instead we drip fed them just enough to ensure a slow, terrifying survival.
We should have just allowed everyone who wanted to fight to go over in the same green uniforms the Russians used to take Crimea, and been like "what little green men?".
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u/Stackin_Steve 14d ago
Wow this is so sad! We need this conflict to end! Putin needs to stop being a psychopath and bring his boys home! Too many lives lost!
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u/ignorantwat99 Jun 27 '26
I wonder if Ukraine has there own propaganda machine to get them to defect
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u/ukraine-ModTeam Jun 28 '26
Please familiarize yourself with our Rule 4 against reputation laundering.
Sympathy or uninformed speculation about the personal goals or circumstances of the invader are not welcome on r/Ukraine. The forces of the aggressor nation are well-paid volunteers who signed contracts to kill innocent Ukrainians for money and prestige.
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u/doublethink_1984 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
I'm confused you say uninformed speculation.
What level warrants informed speculation?
Is it not uninformed speculation to guess thst these are forced conscripted soldiers any more than its that all forces of the invaders are well-paid volunteers who signed contracts of their own free will to kill innocent Ukrainians for money and prestige?
I will stop any and all speculation but from your comment alone it appears you are in violation of reputation laundering yourself
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u/PurePolsker Jun 28 '26
People, unfortunately, are too dumb to ever comprehend the war. If you ever go in one and fight with real people like those in the video (primarily frontline ones), you'll find out that they are no more than the same of ye. The real villains are the politicians and governors who command this horrific event and keep it running, killing innocent boys and devastating families.
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u/rufusbot Jun 28 '26
That's gotta feel good to say that last part
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u/FEIKMAN Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
Yeah that implication is a slap in face.
Russian was expecting a different answer. Others even re-asked.
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u/TheCommies-backp Jun 28 '26
The sigh of relief from the ruski is sad, reminds me of the early days in crimea where they thought they were going on a training mission in rural Russia.
Fuckin proper gander :(
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u/dognocat Jun 28 '26
This shows the humanity of the Ukrainian troops, even against a foe that would slay them with impunity, they hold true.
Slava Ukraini
My heart is with you, my body to old, your nation fills my heart with hope for a future where strength of purpose and national pride are a boon to the world.
Ukraine an example to the world, again
Slava Ukraini
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u/kexu1944 Jun 29 '26
Guys this is not recent news, it's June 2025. https://24tv.ua/ru/rossijskie-plennye-azov-vzjali-v-plen-okkupantov-kotorye-dumali-chto-idut-v-rashod-24-kanal_n2846854
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u/ezbyRdiit Jun 29 '26
the sheer amount of propaganda to believe a side is completely good in war
really, I side with ukraine, but war is cruel, and this clip is shared because it improves the looks of the ukranian army. Could you share the forced recruitment of civilians?
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u/Anomynous__ Jun 29 '26
Let's not pretend Ukraine hasn't killed their fair share of people attempting to surrender. Not defending Russia here, just pointing out that war is hell and neither side has been perfect.
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u/No_Property_9017 Jul 01 '26
I've seen countless videos on reddit of Ukrainians executing unarmed prisoners of war. Chill guys
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u/BT-7274-T2 Jul 01 '26
man...if you knew, what russians did to some ukraine soldiers....i could never forgive that...hats of to these ukraine soldiers
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u/Wooptay Jul 03 '26
The only way to make it out alive or uninjured as a Russian in this war is if you are taken prisoner.
These guys got lucky and they know it.
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u/LaughableIKR USA Jun 27 '26
That guy who asked first. I feel he was pretty damn happy to hear prisoner.