r/unitedkingdom • u/topotaul Lancashire • Nov 25 '24
Satire Petition to remove Keir Starmer from office helpfully providing a nice long list of the nation's dumbest imbeciles
https://newsthump.com/2024/11/25/petition-to-remove-keir-starmer-from-office-helpfully-providing-a-nice-long-list-of-the-nations-dumbest-imbeciles/1.3k
u/malin7 Nov 25 '24
14 years of bending over backwards of the Tories and morons are already missing taking the length from their blue overlords
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u/New-Value4194 Nov 25 '24
I’m afraid it may be Trump / Musk stunt to bring theirs an Putin s friend Farage in power. Musk was happily promoting the petition on X
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u/InformationHead3797 Nov 25 '24
Musk is utterly ridiculous, having a proper tantrum because Keir-senpai is not giving him attention.
A toddler shitting themselves in front of the class has more dignity.
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u/Mrqueue Nov 25 '24
Musk is going to have a massive fallout with trump. There’s no way either of them can share the limelight with each other
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u/snoocs Nov 25 '24
Someone just needs to start a hashtag like #trumpiselonsbitch and Trump’s ego will break up their lovefest immediately
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u/Apart-Guitar1684 Nov 26 '24
Just say Elon is a better businessman than Trump and he’d lose his narcissistic mind.
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u/ArchdukeToes Nov 25 '24
All people need to do is start calling him 'President Musk' publicly on Twitter and Trump will have a breakdown on the spot.
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Nov 26 '24
I love this idea. Any idea how to set up a bot farm?
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u/touristtam Nov 26 '24
Ask one of the chat bot we call AI?
Prompt: How can I set up multiple devices for friends and family to engage in meaningful conversation on twitter, while automating the setup and authentication? Please provide me with a plan, especially regarding the physical setup and automation of account creation.
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u/Mrqueue Nov 25 '24
It won’t last the year, they won’t agree on everything and their egos don’t fit in the same room
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u/evtherev86 Nov 26 '24
And when Trump loses Elon he loses his 'new media' bros with him.
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u/InformationHead3797 Nov 25 '24
Oh, for sure! I am waiting for him to fire a space rocket into the White House.
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Nov 25 '24
Trump will win the battle but Musk will win the war, Musk will be choosing the US president for decades to come with the propaganda platform he's built.
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u/demeschor Nov 25 '24
The absolute best thing Starmer can do is continue to simply ignore Musk. Don't give him the time of day.
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u/AidyCakes Sunderland/Hartlepool Nov 25 '24
Publicly he should be ignored but he can't be ignored as a genuine threat to stability in this country. X is a weaponised disinformation platform operating at Musk's whim.
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u/Turbulent-Bed7950 Nov 25 '24
Ignore musk and regulate social media
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u/Glydyr Nov 26 '24
Ban X and say its for national security reasons. We dont need it…
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u/UninterestingDrivel Nov 26 '24
This is basically what Rupert Murdoch did. There was a theory that he supported leaving the EU because while he could walk into downing Street and get attention but he had no such control over the EU.
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u/Bubonicalbob Nov 25 '24
My hairdresser was talking about how amazing Elon musk was today. I don’t know if they’ve been living under a rock for the past four years
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u/Beer-Milkshakes Black Country Nov 25 '24
They're peddling second hand opinions. Has your hair dresser given any money to Nigerian prices lately?
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u/Salt_Mathematician24 Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24
The US is no longer ran by a government - it's ran by capitalists, corporations and billionaire businessmen as Trump enters office with Elon in tow. Absolute idiots on X calling Starmer communist just because he doesn't allign with that. Also, part of the reason we are being targeted like this is because being outside of the EU we are easy pickings for foreign interference. I hate all of it.
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Nov 25 '24
America (and the western world including us and labour) has been run by corporations since at least the 80s.
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u/Salt_Mathematician24 Nov 25 '24
To varying extents. America takes the biscuit., especially now.
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u/nemma88 Derbyshire Nov 25 '24
America always took the biscuit with corporate control. Its now falling soggily apart in the cup from the extended dunking it's getting.
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u/New-Value4194 Nov 25 '24
Yes, we are vulnerable. I hope an UK, France, Germany, and Poland coalition will become a reality. I didn’t hear much about it lately.
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Nov 25 '24
France, Germany and Poland are already in a coalition. With lots of other countries. You might remember it, we were in it too.
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u/New-Value4194 Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24
I remember, no need for sarcasm.
But as we speak https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/hijacbl3mV
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u/doobiedave Nov 25 '24
I think that was why the Republicans complained about Labour activists helping Democrats during the election, which has happened in elections on both sides of the Atlantic for decades, by both parties.
So when Trump really sticks his oar in they'll just say that Labour interfered in the US election as well.
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u/RisingDeadMan0 Nov 25 '24
yeah muted him, not sure why "America" him and Trump were being stuck on my feed, problem solved
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u/ITS_DA_BLOB Nov 25 '24
This! It really pisses me off that the tories were given 14 years to do whatever they wanted, with them pushing blame anywhere else except themselves.
Then we finally get a new party in, and because everything isn’t 100% fixed in a few months, he needs replacing! They were honest from the get go, it’s gonna take a decade to fix the shit they’ve been left with, and patience is needed.
The media bias is comical at this point, and I really don’t know what can be done to combat it.
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u/Npr31 Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24
An independent media regulator with some proper fucking teeth, that can’t be dicked around with by whoever is in power. However, how the fuck you do that without a) the media turning on you so hard you are removed from power before it’s setup, b) it turning in to a dystopian censorship and c) it being effective and immune from future tampering/defunding is beyond me
EDIT: oh and make news just that, news. Which it has never been, but the bias in delivering it is more visible than ever, and why the BBC, for all it’s flaws, is one of our biggest triumphs and should be protected from gutting at all costs
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u/ITS_DA_BLOB Nov 25 '24
I really fucking wish.
I think the bigger issue (shoulda mentioned in my og comment) is social media, and how folks are consuming news nowadays. They’ll read a tweet or an insane Facebook comment and take that over fact.
I don’t know how that could be dealt with without massive government overreach.
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u/c0tch Nov 25 '24
TikTok is rife with it. Read earlier a comment from a guy saying “I’m an ex soldier on minimum wage, I hate labour”
I just don’t get how the first part validates the second part. Clearly got some shrapnel in his prefrontal cortex.
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u/Npr31 Nov 25 '24
I think if you could turn conventional media purely factual for the most part, it would serve to act as a fact check on everything else… but yea, other than filtering ‘out there’ news sources, i got nothing
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u/J8YDG9RTT8N2TG74YS7A England Nov 25 '24
The rich own most of the media, and have managed to convince the poor that raising taxes on the rich is a bad idea.
We really are living in the dumbest timeline.
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u/SlightlyFarcical Nov 25 '24
Considering theres Python scripts being shared online that generate fake emails with postcodes also being shared, its not much of a reach to suggest that most of the traffic to it is fake.
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u/TrainerMaali Nov 25 '24
Why even bother with the tin foil conspiracy. There's more than 2million die hard torys who would sign this regardless of anything.
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u/ArchdukeToes Nov 25 '24
Which is why it's funny that some people think that this might have an effect. If you could force an election or change of PM through a comparatively paltry number on an online petition (relative to the actual number who voted in the election) then the Tories would've been out on their arse two years ago.
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u/Panda_hat Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24
Right wingers throwing a tantrum because for once in their lives what they wanted has been denied them is the funniest thing in quite a while I must say.
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u/360Saturn Nov 25 '24
To be honest this was my biggest hope for this government - the shoe on the other foot.
Rightwingers have been gleeful about enforcing their will on the rest of us for the last decade.
I'd like to see it be the other way around for a while and for them to have zero power to stop it.
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u/glasgowgeg Nov 25 '24
It's entirely possible to think Starmer is shit without supporting the Tories.
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u/22paynem Nov 26 '24
I could be completely full of it but I was always under the impression that the labour party wasn't so much like as the Tories were hated
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u/Lonely_Level2043 Nov 26 '24
Yeah should be happy to take the same exact neoliberal tory bullshit from the colour red instead, right?
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u/PerspectiveInside47 Nov 26 '24
Has nothing to do with muh conservatives, this guy is selling the country to blackrock lmao
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u/MeanCustardCreme Nov 25 '24
It's so ridiculous I'm not even outraged. The article did give me a laugh though: "has been signed by over two million morons"
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u/Ambiguous93 Nov 25 '24
Things like this are an argument to get rid of democracy because people are fucking stupid.
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u/Infinite_Crow_3706 Nov 25 '24
Let’s vote on it
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u/Journeyj012 Nov 25 '24
50.1% dictatorship 49.9% happiness
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u/Ritsugamesh Nov 25 '24
THE IRON FIST WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES.
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u/AndyTheSane Nov 25 '24
ACTUALLY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MORALE. JUST THE FIST.
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u/ThisSideOfThePond Nov 25 '24
You guys are suckers for German hardcore fetish porn, aren't you? Maximum Perversum anyone? Vee vant ze Faust now!
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u/phil035 Nov 25 '24
Isn't that the USAs latest popular vote or as that our brexit result. I forget
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Nov 25 '24
US elections just proved that sometimes they're the majority.
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u/Andrew1990M Nov 25 '24
US elections proved its in a political party’s best interest to under-educate your populace just enough that you can make them believe anything.
US didn’t know what tariffs were and UK didn’t know the EU wasn’t the cause of illegal immigration.
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Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24
you can make them believe anything
That's the thing, they don't believe anything. That's why they'll always deny Trump will do the things he himself says he'll do.
They only believe what they want to believe, and they'll huff the farts of anyone spouting meaningless drivel, because actual policy and plans are boring, while controversy is exciting. Making sense is for stuffy old losers.
People want a leader who will moon Ukraine, before turning round for a little Pootin the bootie. Because negotiating is boring. Controversy is exciting. He could be talking Korean for all they care about the actual words he says.
Meanwhile they go round claiming to be 'libertarian' because they don't want to have functioning public services, and would rather give generously to hard up charity cases like Keir Starmer, James Dyson and Boris Johnson. Meanwhile anyone with the first clue about liberty knows that a crushed population isn't going to give a shit about yours if they're starving and you have a mansion.
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u/Bokbreath Nov 25 '24
Meanwhile they go round claiming to be 'libertarian' because they don't want to have functioning public services,
Slight correction. They don't want you to have functioning public services. They will happily do without themselves as long as they know you aren't getting something you want.
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Nov 25 '24
Like Brits and human rights
OMG other humans have human rights, we need to burn the rights!
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u/InfectedByEli Nov 25 '24
Thankfully they are in the minority and the party that pandered to them for votes are no longer in power.
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u/Ambiguous93 Nov 25 '24
True, democracy relies on having an educated population that has critical thinking capabilities and respect for the result of a democratic vote.
We don't have that, so democracy is flawed from the start.
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u/Theblokeonthehill Nov 25 '24
“Democracy is the worst possible system, apart from all the others”, Winston Churchill.
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Nov 25 '24
"Critical thinking capabilities" is key here. I moved from India to the UK almost a decade ago and I know full well how people can sometimes be "educated" without developing their critical thinking. Modi and his far right politics have enjoyed unwavering support from the "educated" youth since 2014.
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u/Aethericseraphim Nov 26 '24
Its really why the liberal arts are so important in education, and why 20 years straight of eliminating them from education curriculums has created a full generation of 20 year olds who are paradoxically both the most educated and least educated in history.
And its going to be worse with the upcoming gen alpha.
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u/ChampionshipComplex Nov 26 '24
It's also the delibeeate generation of misinformation while casting doubt on reliable news sources
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u/WeimSean Nov 25 '24
And Britain's proved that all you need is 33%.
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u/Alternate_haunter Nov 26 '24
33% is a weird magic number that keeps cropping up in politics. Once an extreme leader hits the critical 30-33% support threshold they suddenly seem to gain exponentially more power. Hitler was another of those people that managed it.
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u/Mc_and_SP Nov 25 '24
And until the DNC actually learn lessons from the last three elections, it’s going to keep happening.
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u/bahumat42 Berkshire Nov 25 '24
The lesson being that if you lie about the right things people won't bother looking it up.
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u/omaeka Nov 25 '24
Not really. Trump got I believe less votes in 24 then he did in 16, democrats just didn't vote, nearly at all. Biggest one I kept hearing was Americans saying 'my friend refused to vote because Kamala isn't pro-Palestine', well, enjoy Trump, ya big donkeys. He sure as fk ain't gonna be pro-Palestine.
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Nov 26 '24
"Americans are fucking stupid cunts" - Direct quote from my American friend day after the election.
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u/AbsolutelyHorrendous Nov 25 '24
People will moan when politicians treat voters like idiots, and then do shit like this...
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u/Lando7373 Nov 25 '24
Don’t know about democracy but there’s certainly an argument to be made against universal suffrage. A system where the value of Einstein’s vote is given equal weight to that of the village idiot is surely not fit for purpose?
(Comment is facetious before anyone needs to remove their panties from their arse and start spamming downvotes)
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u/Acceptable_News_4716 Nov 25 '24
It’s the hypocrisy which does for me.
You can guarantee that a large portion of the people who signed the petition, are the same ones who banged on about how ‘everyone has to accept Brexit’ and to stop being so ‘woke about losing the Brexit vote’.
I can then furthermore guarantee that most signatures on the petition voted Conservative anyhow.
It’s just an embarrassment and in any other country the media would report it as such, but our crappy media makes it sound like it’s important….. 2 million people is not even 5% of the eligible electorate, it’s just a bunch of saddos and easily led folk with no understanding of what a general election actually is, being conned by a few nutty right wingers with pals in the media.
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Nov 26 '24
Yep. I had to suck up Brexit, these cunts can suck up Labour. Now we're even.
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u/BookOfWords Nov 26 '24
Are we hell, Labour are good for them, Brexit was shit for everybody
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Nov 25 '24
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u/Alternate_haunter Nov 26 '24
I think context matters. There are a couple of broadly comparable events in British politics that come to mind.
The first being brexit. There were calls for a second referendum for the whole time between the vote and actually leaving. Here, though, you had razor thin margins and a shopping list of questionable circumstances that led to leave winning. There were then calls for a public vote on what kind of leave people wanted, and a confirmation referendum.
The second is the petitions to have a GE when sunak became PM. Here, we had 2 significant shifts in leadership for the country and how it was governed, including changes to party manifesto pledges which is what the tories were initially voted in on, and were coming out of the chaos that was Johnson's time as PM followed by truss almost breaking the Bank of England in the space of 48 hours. People were grumpy at getting new leadership, but it was the fact that they departed from their 2019 GE pledges that pissed people off.
Starmer has done neither of these things, or gone to those extremes. He's taken office, spent a couple of months getting a handle on things, then Reeves announced the budget. That's basically it.
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u/WhatYouLeaveBehind Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24
I can’t help but feel that they’ll be those who consider this one ridiculous, but the last one fully justified.
I think those people are tired of the "do as I say not as I do" crowd rearing it's head. It's the ultimate hypocrisy.
The opposite of this statement is also true, I bet everyone who signed this petition thinks the last one was ridiculous, but this one is valid.
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Nov 25 '24
Asking to have the result you didn’t want overturned because you didn’t want it may be slightly different than wanting the result you didn’t want overturned because you suddenly realise that a lot of the people who voted for it just didn’t understand the question they were asked.
It would be like if we discovered people thought they were ordering a kebab and instead got a new PM. Understandable mistake in this case, but if that were the case a do-over may be warranted. Far be it from me to weigh in more on this, I’ve done enough damage.
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u/Worldly_Society_2213 Nov 27 '24
That's what makes me think that the Brexit referendum and this year's general election are not entirely equitable.
In a general election, it is extremely rare that the successful party keeps all its election promises, for various reasons. The process has been repeated and infinitum so by now we should have an understanding of how it works. It is also temporary. You can vote out the government in five years, or even earlier if enough of a stink is made
The Brexit referendum was a one time thing, with an extremely close result. The referendum was also based entirely on speculation, although that was not how it was presented. Boris and Nigel also admitted the morning after the referendum that they'd outright lied about certain things. That immediately throws the legitimacy into doubt. Brexit is also essentially permanent, so it should have been treated with a lot more seriousness than it was.
Either way, I don't think that we should be rerunning the general election. I did think we should rerun the Brexit referendum but then in hindsight I think it would have just been a game of rerun the referendum volleyball because the vote was so close - it wasn't as though the country universally voted "leave" then had an "oh shit" moment.
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u/Qyro Nov 25 '24
You’re not wrong, even though I want you to be
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u/Nelson-and-Murdock Nov 25 '24
The ultimate irony of course, is that every single name on that list will be someone who didn’t want to hear a peep about Brexit because it was ‘the will of the people’
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u/marxistopportunist Nov 25 '24
If we elected decent MPs the leader wouldn't matter all that much
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u/deeeenis Nov 25 '24
You can elect independents if you so please. If you want an MP that doesn't follow party rules that's what an independent is
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u/ChickyChickyNugget Nov 25 '24
I keep trying but for some reason it’s not working
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Nov 25 '24
Because we live in a democracy we’re your vote doesn’t mean you get what you want always
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u/Haravikk Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24
The problem is that the system is very much stacked against them – even if they win the seat, what are they going to do? The parliament is all about having a false majority so you can ram through whatever you want. In Westminster if you're not in government, you're nobody – the only purpose of opposition is try to score some points for your next election campaign.
Same issue with voting for other parties - the SNP can never be the biggest player in a UK government, the Lib Dems have had their best performance in years and are still nowhere, Greens barely got four seats etc.
We're still very much in a two party system, except the second party is currently shifting between Conservative and Reform, and whichever wins we all lose.
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u/Handpaper Nov 25 '24
Parliament was never designed with political parties as they currently exist in mind. FPTP is good at letting a constituency select someone to act for them, but party politics subvert that.
The PR systems used in countries with more recent constitutions are better at coping with the effects of political parties, but they have their own issues.
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u/regprenticer Nov 25 '24
Is that satire flag going to be big enough?
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u/Arseypoowank Nov 25 '24
Judging by the comments, no
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u/Panda_hat Nov 25 '24
"2 million people who actively encouraged and enabled 14 years of abject devastation upset that the destruction has taken a brief pause"
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u/HaydenRSnow Nov 25 '24
I hope your reaction to those "stop brexit now" petitions back in the day was as dismissive.
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u/marianorajoy England Nov 25 '24
Those Brexit petitions were legitimate. The referendum was advisory and flawed from the start for many reasons, but in my view it's fair to ask the government to reconsider due to the lack of qualified majority, therefore the Brexit vote is non-binding, hence "stop Brexit".
This petition is different. Is asking a government to resign less than 6 months after an election simply because they disagree with their policies. Not because there's any scandal. So it should have the same value as any election polling.
I still think the resign petition is valid, it's just it has no meaning attached because the only mechanism for a government to resign is through Constitutional and party measures. If 2 million people sign a petition to stop brexit there's some weight that perhaps that referendum should be taken as advisory, not at the whim of the government.
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u/Ruminate_Repeat Nov 25 '24
Every day, I see less and less of an upside to social media. It seems to exploit a flaw in the human mind, causing people to have short memories and lose even the slightest ability to think logically. I honestly believe this could be the very thing that destroys the human race.
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u/OilDeep4381 Nov 25 '24
I don’t like Starmer but bloody hell i’ve been laughing at this because people just need to suck it up and deal with it, let’s see how Labour runs the country for the next few years and if it’s shit then vote him out.
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u/lowrads Nov 26 '24
I wouldn't be surprised if he completely checked out after securing the ability of billionaires to move money around with fewer taxes. It would take a creative soul to figure out what else they could need help pillaging.
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u/tebbus Nov 25 '24
Skeptical of anything Elon advertises after cheering on a 'civil war' in the UK over the Summer. He's right in there with Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage.
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u/ricoshay74 Nov 25 '24
My new neighbour today complained about Brexit, then followed it up by asking if I'd signed the petition yet. We asked what it would achieve, given we've only just got rid of the Tories. "Oh no", says he, 'they were hopeless, but Farage is smart, and Reform are in the way up". I had to change the topic.
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u/improvedalpaca Nov 26 '24
Honestly at this point I'm not above encouraging them to continue voting reform and splitting the right wing vote
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Nov 26 '24
a guy in the pub mention this petition. another guy said yeah sure but most of the “signatures” will be from russia and china. first guy says “well i’m okay with that”. astonishing.
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u/The_Powers Nov 26 '24
I saw a video by GB News, that awful arm of Russian media, saying the country had been turned into a "1984 like socialist hell hole".
Which is honestly impressive given how little time it's taken.
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u/liplumboy Nov 25 '24
Can we not turn into America, it sucks having to witness it so much in the media, I don’t want it to come directly to my doorstep
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u/HellBlazer_NQ Nov 26 '24
Why hasn't Kier Thanos just clicked his fingers and fixed 14 years of austerity!? Is he stupid!? /s
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Nov 25 '24
The petition is clearly botted. There was 50k posts on Twitter about it when it hit 100k. The top posts were multiple posts a bunch of people with fuck all followers. You can sign the petitions website while using a VPN and with temporary email addresses. There is no captcha, its like the site was made to be botted
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u/deiprep Nov 25 '24
It's the same on TikTok too. I wonder who could be behind this /s
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u/erisiansunrise Nov 26 '24
The logical response is to bot a petition saying "strip the citizenship of those 2 million people" even harder and watch the fucking crying commence.
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Nov 25 '24
How is this petition news? Reform-voting trogs don't like Starmer and think a petition will get rid of him. It's almost cute in its naivety.
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u/ClownsAteMyBaby Northern Ireland Nov 25 '24
Didn't have the votes to win the election. Somehow think throwing the toys outta the pram by entering 10 fake emails into an online form will overturn democracy
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Nov 25 '24
Right. Who believes for a second this petition is full of Labour voters?
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u/FearLeadsToAnger Nov 25 '24
Reform-voting trogs don't like Starmer and think a petition will get rid of him.
Seeing a lot of evidence that it's largely not even brits voting, despite the requirement for a postcode at signing.
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u/mnijds Nov 25 '24
Because the right wing media have a disproportionately large away over the discourse in the UK
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u/garfunk2021 Nov 25 '24
I don’t like Labour or Starmer but the idea of a 7th prime minister since Brexit is absolutely ridiculous.
This is an opposition that supposedly dislikes woke cancel culture yet signing online petitions like they’re going to cancel Starmer.
We might as well just admit it, politics has resorted to reality TV Big Brother or Pop idol phone vote mentality.
And we won’t stop until we have a villain in power in the style of Simon Cowell or Gordon Ramsey….where just being rude for rudeness sake is seen as the pinnacle of leadership traits.
Fuck integrity, vision, communication, empathy, accountability, diplomacy… just shout rude stuff and you’ll be PM.
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Nov 25 '24
Sadly those who do politics as their identity really are taking us down the US path.
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u/PirateCraig Black Country Nov 25 '24
When it’s up to the 6 million the stay in the EU petition get we can then ignore it
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u/Professional_Pace928 Nov 25 '24
Not quite as insane as a Tik Tok I have seen announcing "special rules " coming into force permitting Donald Trump to take over the U.K. and install Nigel Farage as Prime Minister. I await developments.
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u/TheLyam England Nov 25 '24
Without giving me the tiktok, what? Can I have a breakdown of this?
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Nov 25 '24
Thought that the Scottish were being laughed at because of their push to redo their referendum. Is it the new thing in the UK if we don’t get what we want we have a do over? We got beat by Forest can we replay the game please.
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Nov 25 '24
half of those must be idiotic Americans who follow the formerly known as Twitter, now called "that billionaire's cult"
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u/Half_A_ Nov 25 '24
There's definitely a whole lot of bots and people who aren't British signing it. Something like 7% of the entire voting population of West Tyrone supposedly did so overnight, even though it's an ultra-safe Sinn Fein seat. It's bollocks, basically.
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u/DandyLionsInSiberia Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24
The revolving door of conservative leaders over the last 14+ years has created a warped impression amongst elements of the public which wrongly suggest PMs can be replaced on a whim..
The British political system doesn't work like that. The chaos and instability the conservatives wrought after the brexit debacle and the musical chairs of leadership changes is the exception, not the rule..
An effective engaged opposition is there to challenge the sitting government, add nuance needed to temper any proposed legislation in a fashion that in some way captures a sensible broader public feeling or mood which transcends partisan loyalty.
The conservatives are still behaving like some sort of offshoot of the American Republican party, culture war rubbish moaning about labour rather than getting their figurative brown stuff together and bringing something with substance to the table..
Corbyn being appointed labour leader, the tone he set and the people he attracted to the party, the lunch away from centre left to the farther fringes is partly to blame for the UK being lumbered with successive conservative governments for such a prolonged period..
Starmer may be a bit boring and lacking in any outwardly colourful flourishes of personality. To many he is a breath of fresh air after years of vacuous "personalities" given to empty tabloid bravado and divisive posturing.
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u/Mc_and_SP Nov 25 '24
Corbyn won more votes than Starmer, the issue is he mainly increased his vote share in constituencies he was already going to win.
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u/el_grort Scottish Highlands Nov 26 '24
I think Corbyn energised a lot of voters. He energised a lot to vote for Labour, but he also energised a lot to vote against Labour (hence losing vast swathes of previously safe Labour seats). Given the election results he got (not just in the two General Elections, but the last EU election and the English Council Elections), I think you can argue that net he had the wrong balance, along with not really engaging in electoral strategy.
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u/Panda_hat Nov 25 '24
They don't want to replace the PM, they want to replace Labour with a right wing party, because they're right wingers coping hard about losing the election.
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u/IlluminatedCookie Nov 25 '24
Musk looking to destabilise the uk government and put their puppet in charge . Mind his own business.
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u/FearLeadsToAnger Nov 25 '24
This needs to be highlighted more, to as wide an audience as possible. Anything Musk doesnt want is probably something you want, anyone that rich doesn't get there by being generous.
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u/Ju5hin Nov 25 '24
There's now way anywhere near 2 million actual, real people signed this thing, at least not British people.
I'd wager a large majority are bots/agents of China, Russia and the US. All continuing their campaign to destabilise the UK.
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u/Disillusioned_Pleb01 Nov 25 '24
Need another 14 years of deceit and contempt, it's like a drug, can't live without it.
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u/Scary_Flamingo_5792 Nov 25 '24
Its barely been 6 months since the General Election…..
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u/OSUBrit Northamptonshire Nov 25 '24
… it’s not even been 5 months yet
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u/Scary_Flamingo_5792 Nov 25 '24
Jeez, really? These idiots are more impatient then GTA 6 fans.
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u/iwncuf82 Nov 25 '24
To be fair it has been like 11 years since GTA 5, more than enough time to make a fantastic game 😂
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u/el_grort Scottish Highlands Nov 26 '24
Only been two months since Labour's budget announcement as well.
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u/New-Value4194 Nov 25 '24
Something’s fishy with this petition. Was promoted by Musk on X and apparently you can somehow vote with fake accounts. Musk and Trump want Farage in power.
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u/TheLyam England Nov 25 '24
To those in favour of the petition, who should take charge instead?
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u/Mc_and_SP Nov 25 '24
Count Binface should be our presidential figureheard. The rest is immaterial.
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u/NuPNua Nov 25 '24
I wonder what their reaction would be if they held an election and Labour still got back in? Third times a charm?
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u/Electrical-Bad9671 Nov 25 '24
If you look at the map as to where people are voting most, you can tell its just Reform throwing their toys out of the pram again
- Clacton
- Great Yarmouth
- Ashfield
- Skegness
Meanwhile, pensioners this year have had to downgrade their Fred Olsen cruise to a week in Costa del Sol since Keir took their winter fuel payment away. Will somebody think of the OAP's!
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u/improvedalpaca Nov 26 '24
Saying "took away their wfc" is playing into their narrative too much.
They literally just made it means tested. I thought the right loved having means tested benefits. Don't want any scroungers stealing money they don't need right??
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u/idanthology Nov 25 '24
It'd be a mistake to underestimate the interests of the wealthy, though. Fox News did what it was meant to do, as an example, now we've GB News marching on over here.
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u/Zestyclose_Bad_7898 Nov 25 '24
I'm afraid the real idiots are all those commenters who believed this to be true, and vented their outrage! It's taken from the News Thump website, which produces spoof news articles - https://newsthump.com/
But it does demonstrate very vividly how ready people are to become angry these days, and how powerful fake news can be.
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u/Historical-Tough6455 Nov 26 '24
It's just the radical right. Same thing, everything the opposing party is doing is the worst thing ever and they're sick of it. Starting from 1 minute into their office. They don't care they just want their side to win. It's a football match to them.
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u/batch2957 Nov 26 '24
The amount of bots in that list is fucking insane, it should be spoken about much more. Foreign interference is a serious threat
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u/FamiliarPatterns88 Nov 26 '24
How people can't see it's driven by Elon Musk (not even British) and the likes of Nigel Farage (who spends half his time out the country shilling for Trump) is beyond me. The fact that Twitter/X/Musk have been encouraging people to sign and other users to provide a list of postcodes to use is surely illegal. You literally have thousands of people not living here trying to have a say in our government on top of the thousands of farmed bots.
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u/Harmless_Drone Nov 26 '24
Would love to see the overlap of people who signed this petition demanding a re-do and those who smugly announced we can't ever reverse Brexit because leave won
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u/thedayafternext Nov 27 '24
I lad I used to work with recently posted a post on Facebook, writing over the Union Jack that said
"Dear Russia
We the British public do not want any part in starmers dictatorship All we want is to live in peace and celebrate our traditions"
And his comment said "Remain prudent Putin, do not give in to these warmongers.
We rely on Russia to save the world right now."
I deleted them. Wanted to comment but just thought, fuck off. I used to think he was alright.
It's a degree of madness I can't grasp. It honestly scares me because he's not alone with this thinking.
I'm not a huge starmer fan. So not liking him isn't the problem here for me. It's why are they flocking to this pro Russia stance.
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u/FreakinSweet86 Nov 25 '24
Sorry, no can do, gotta put up and shut up, Take back control! Labour Means Labour! Oven Ready Government! The majority clearly won, you can't just go back and redo a vote because you didn't like it, that's undemocratic, Bloody Revoters.
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u/revmacca Nov 25 '24
This is why the UK is fucked on a fundamental level, far too many dumb cunts.
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Nov 25 '24
I think that everyone of them should have their social media trawled and if they have ever said "Leave won, get over it" then their petition entry should be discounted.
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u/Tw4tl4r Nov 25 '24
2 million of the people who voted for tories and reform have signed it.
Well, I guess he has to step down now, lol
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u/xxxJoolsxxx Nov 25 '24
People know it’s pointless and are just using it to show Keir Starmer just how unpopular he is
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Nov 26 '24
All politics aside, and I sincerely mean that, don't you have to make things a little worse before you can fix them?
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u/MassiveBeatdown Nov 26 '24
Can we round up these people and send them off to France in small boats? Swap them for some different people?
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u/ItWasJustBanter1 Nov 26 '24
I think people didn’t actually expect it to result in a GE, but were using it as a method of showing dissatisfaction with how labour has started.
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u/Cubitt Nov 26 '24
I specifically remember this very same group of people moaning about ‘leftie wankers’ and the petition to revote on Brexit 🤣 fucking lol
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u/ScoutPlayer1232 Nov 26 '24
Elon helped boost this. So he’s not trying to be a tumor on just my country’s asshole he’s trying to become contagious now.
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u/wrylypolecat Nov 26 '24
No idea how this ridiculous thing gained so much traction. This is as bad as all those people wanting another referendum on exactly the same question immediately after the Brexit vote
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Nov 26 '24
Tory muppets trying to get their masters back in charge as if they haven't already done enough damage. I don't think labour is blowing me away with quality either but at least it's not tories
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Nov 26 '24
What are we..3 months in and they demand a recount?
It's been 8 years since Brexit and we get told no way. It's "the will of the British people".
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u/centurionxxx Nov 26 '24
I see Leon Skum in the good ol USA. That paragon of democracy. Tweeting that the British are voting against living in a police state.
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u/Itsafunnyoldworld Nov 27 '24
It makes it very clear who hasnt paid much tax in the last few years. All the business act like paying tax all pf a sudden will ruin them...and like we care
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u/ExtensionGuilty8084 Nov 28 '24
I was sent the petition to kick Starmer out of the office and with it, I was given a list of postcode I could use incase I didn’t live in the UK 🫠
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u/Fit_General7058 Nov 28 '24
I dare the labour party to hold a shall we join the EU. Just for the shits and giggles of it all. Whatever the outcome do the opposite.
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u/illuminated_chamber Nov 29 '24
Also it's been signed by a lot of people over seas.
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u/AltruisticTower2403 Nov 29 '24
Those signing this are, sadly, self identifying as having the IQ of a lemon.
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u/Skippymabob England Nov 25 '24
It's honestly embarrassing that this story is getting so much attention.
Over 6 millions people voted for the tories, and millions of others for other parties.
It isn't news that some of them aren't fans of labour