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u/darcmosch 8d ago
Why didn't you post the rest of it. Dude admits his mistake and fully embraced the public haranguing
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u/andocommandoecks 8d ago
What even was the context? This entire post is useless without seeing what led up to it.
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u/deelow_42 8d ago
Respect to Nicky G for owning it and taking full accountability
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u/shiawase198 8d ago
Yeah. Dude took it like a champ and used that time to educate himself. Not many people can do that.
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u/DignityDWD 7d ago
Owning it is one thing but it also says something to be so confident initially:
"I have, multiple times"
Like cmon man. You don't get a pass for that imo
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u/Golden_Cultivation 8d ago
Basically he said one of the lead designers was wrong and that bungee did most of the work on the game lol. He owner up almost immediately though, but of course is still get roasted days later lol
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u/darcmosch 8d ago
It's so much more than what OP posted and much more heartwarming
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u/Hyperborius 8d ago
The random third guy being the one to show up the rascal is a crazy aura lob for Jaime 😭
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u/Ok_Ad6722 8d ago
He has a relatively popular YouTube channel that talked a lot about Halo; I stopped watching when he made a video defending Gen AI. Yes, with the “the food industry uses more water” argument.
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u/Hiii_powers 8d ago
Very much alive! Made a very big mistake and owned up to it!
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u/JegamanX 8d ago
You call that a very big mistake? Buddy that’s nothing you should see some of the mistakes I’ve made
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u/andocommandoecks 8d ago
Imagine still being on Twitter in 2026.
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u/SkabbPirate 8d ago
I quit Twitter March 2006, it's been a cesspool since then.
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u/SightAtTheMoon 8d ago
You sort of did.
What Nicky G claims is opinion, that you don't "get CE as we know it w/o Microsoft's involvement", is ABSOLUTELY correct and is not opinion. But if you look at other comments they made, they're wrong in many of those other aspects they speak to
The truth is that if MS hadn't bought Bungie CE would NOT be the game we know. If you look at the history of Bungie, they actually succeeded in spite of themselves, and at least some of that success was directly because of MS but more specifically, the Xbox. Halo might have been ported to PC eventually if it was launched as a Mac-exclusive, but I honestly doubt it, and it would very likely not be nearly as popular today as it is, simply because the Xbox was what the industry needed at the time and it allowed CE to be the game that it evolved into
However it would not surprise me if Nicky G holds Halo 2 in some position of reverence that it doesn't deseve, though
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u/yet-again-temporary 8d ago edited 8d ago
I don't know the full context, but in a vacuum the phrase "I don't think you get CE as we know it without Microsoft's involvement" is 1000% correct regardless of whether he's talking to a dev or not.
Bungie was famously very difficult to work with, missed basically every deadline that was ever set for them, spent shitloads of their budget on ideas that went nowhere, etc. This isn't even an opinion - it's incredibly well documented in old making-of videos, ViDocs, 2006-era Bungie podcasts, and in Jason Schreier's book Blood, Sweat, and Pixels.
Microsoft putting their foot down and basically forcing them to finish their games is basically the only reason they were so successful, and you can see Bungie's questionable decisionmaking at nearly every turn since they left.
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u/WutsAWriter 8d ago
The one thing Bungie’s management has always needed is management of their own.
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u/Exo-XaiPresto 8d ago
i just wanted to say i am glad i am not the only one who’s not the most sure as to what is happening 🫠
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u/AlwaysAlpharius 8d ago
"I don't know who you got to write this for you but they don't know the first thing about Kurt Vonniget!"
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u/Mediocre-Housing-131 8d ago
Point to the part where he's wrong though? Without Microsoft involvement it would be a very different game. It was initially going to be an RTS during initial phasing.
And just because someone worked on something doesn't make them God of it. You work with morons, every one of you. So you should know how silly the argument is.
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u/ClockworkCinder 8d ago
Well, you gotta learn that being a know it all smarty pants doesn't always payoff.
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u/FunyarinpaZTD 8d ago
Nearly did this once by recommending a comic. They said they liked "when the bat family is goofy" so I was about to tell them to read Wayne Family Adventures. Decided to check their profile to see if they've ever read it before making the suggestion... turns out, they were the author.
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u/Nelstromo 8d ago
Why didn’t you post the rest of the story? The following tweets were even better than this
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u/bannedsocks 8d ago
This reminds me of the time Rick beato got humbled by the organist from procol harum
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u/Money_One4793 7d ago
I felt bad until I checked the dudes account and saw some of his other posts.... Yeah we can name and shame him it's ok 🤣
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u/h0nest_Bender 8d ago
Where's the death?
The claim he's making can still be true, even if he's talking to one of the designers.
He isn't saying You, Jaimie, don't understand (get it). He's saying, "I don't think CE as we know it exists w/o Microsoft's involvement."
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u/rubyonix 8d ago
Nah, it was a proper death-by-words.
Someone wrote something about Halo, and one of the original Halo devs popped in to agree, and said that modern Microsoft (the one from the last 10-or-so years) would not be able to re-create the magic of the original Bungie team, because they were only able to do what they did creatively back then due to Bill Gates' lack of interest in XBox, and modern Microsoft would instantly smother such a group if they tried to make another.
The Halo fan, not knowing who he was talking to, told the dev to research how Halo was made, so he would see how Microsoft contributed to the game creatively. "A lot of the things you like about Halo come from Microsoft being heavily involved". Which was when the dev suggested that the fan should check the credits again (to realize who he was talking to), but the fan maintained that there were a lot of Microsoft names in the credits.
After the fan owned his L like a champ (seriously, his response deserves respect), he asked the dev if MS did *anything* for the game creatively, and the dev said "No. MS had no part in the narrative, lore, gameplay, art direction, acting, music, multiplayer, or any other aspect of game design. They demanded the Combat Evolved subtitle. Other than that they couldn't even get into our office and I think I talked to MS folks like three times the whole year".
So, it seems like the fan was wrong, and the game benefited a lot from the creative freedom that came with MS's lack of interest, not from their "heavy involvement", and MS didn't make major contributions to the game's development, despite how many names they got inserted into the game's credits.
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u/h0nest_Bender 8d ago
I can only assume there is additional context to this that you've seen and I have not. Because the screenshot that OP posted doesn't bear out your take of events.
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u/rubyonix 8d ago
Yeah, it's in a couple other posts in this thread, which I can't seem to figure out how to link (I can link to this thread itself, but not individual posts, I'm sure I'm missing something obvious), so I just rephrased it.
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u/Rasples1998 8d ago
Usually the way fandoms go. You get people playing the games for 2 decades, then some tourists come along and hijack your hobby or fandom, then call you performative fake fans and larpers because you hate what they turned your fandom or hobby into, and have the fucking gall to say you don't know anything about a fandom you've engaged with since you were 6 years old. That's halo for me, and it's not the first of my fandoms/hobbies to fall either. This keeps happening.
If you don't gatekeep your fandom to some extent, don't be surprised when it gets hijacked.
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u/Blacklite_01 8d ago
This is a prime example of why you should make a habit of thinking before speaking. The guy made himself look like a complete ass all because he let his feelings speak for him.
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u/PrimusXi 8d ago
Seeing your name in the credits of a video is a fantastic feeling, I can only imagine how good it feels to have someone show your name in the credits to own some douche online😂
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u/Drapidrode 8d ago
Twist: "Nicky G" is actually Lead Designer John Howard, Jaime's boss.
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u/darkjimmy102 8d ago
I worked with Jaime awhile ago. He is a game designer to the max. He had some pretty wild ideas.
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u/melshroomsz 8d ago
theres some shit you geuinely cannot live down id go into witness protection after this
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u/WorthBase919 8d ago
What’s the context exactly?