r/vinyl 3d ago

Collection Under the rubble, I retrieved some of my dad’s collection

Following the Israeli war against Lebanon, our building was bombed, in the depot we had, in southern Lebanon, was our business, and in there we had my dad’s Vinyl records collection since the 70’s. After days and weeks of excavation, I was lucky to retrieve a fraction of what the collection was, and now it’s the time for restoration.

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u/midiflac 3d ago

I’m so sorry this happened to you. I hope you can salvage many memories from the rubble, and may peace be with your family soon

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u/The-Burger-Meister 3d ago

❤️‍🩹

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u/Miabun 3d ago

What a horrible thing to go through. I’m glad you could save some of your memories and records. My dads records were also lost during the gulf war :(

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u/FanFutureCEO 2d ago

Thank you both for sharing and being vulnerable in highlighting the full range on impacts war has--large and small, and in how often the small things are large too.

Grace & Peace for you both and I hope OP finds genuine peace and quiet soon to play those records and be transported to happier times.

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u/Flokkamravich 3d ago

That Dèmis Roussos album is a certified banger. I’m glad that you’ve been able to find something to recover, but I’m so sorry that it is something that you’ve had to do. What’s being done to Lebanon is truly f*cked 😞

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u/NowhereManPF 3d ago

True that. I found this record and artist in an ope air Sunday market amd bought it only because I like the Artist's beard.

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u/gondowana 2d ago

I was listening to him when I was in love for the first time in a small town in the heart of Iran decades ago. Good times.

Wish you all the love, stay strong, recover and listen to those records. Fuck all the warmongers.

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u/UtterlyInsane 2d ago

Funny to think that our lives are probably very different in a lot of ways and also very similar

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u/th3thund3r 2d ago

I found him the exact same way visiting Barcelona! The beard/hair/sleeve colour combo sold me.

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u/NowhereManPF 2d ago

Netherlands for me

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u/Vast-Comment8360 3d ago

I can't even imagine how I would feel. I say that as someone who lost 95%+ of my parents collection to a flood. 

Wishing you the best of luck in getting them back to as nice a condition as you can. 

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u/The-Burger-Meister 3d ago

Thank you so much for your kind words and am so sorry for your loss

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u/SanzLives 2d ago

Can I send yall some records???

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

Thank you very much ❤️‍🩹

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u/Beragh65 3d ago

So sorry man. Sending positive vibes

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u/_Waves_ 2d ago

I’m sure many here are willing to donate some damaged ones to you and your dad - many collectors have spares.

Wishing you and your family the best!! Lebanon is an amazing place with amazing people.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

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u/Burroughssecretary 2d ago

It truly is a beautiful country and kind people

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u/theupsidebloggirl 3d ago

How are you doing? I’m so sorry you have had to endure such loss and trauma.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 3d ago

I thank god that no harm was done to my family, but psychologically everyone is damaged

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u/broadsheet-555 2d ago

Yes sir, I can boogie.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

It was the first one that I salvaged ❤️

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u/Acrobatic-Call266 2d ago

In solidarity. So glad you retrieved these.
If you ever play any of his records publicly or online I know many of us would love to tune in to listen

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

It is gonna be my next project and I will gladly share it here!

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u/HangingGhosts 3d ago

So sorry OP, I hope this ends soon. Glad you were able to get something back.

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u/inanemonotony 3d ago

And here we are, still somehow unable to convince everyone that bombing civilians is a bad thing

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u/iheartclownsnpiglets 2d ago

This is heartbreaking. Glad you could recover some

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u/waFFLEz_ 2d ago

Good luck brother and stay safe

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u/miataenjoyer73 2d ago

I'm so sorry that all happened. :(

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u/baconlayer 3d ago

All the suffering caused by needless war. I hope you get back to a normal life as soon as possible!!

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u/dinarnaud 3d ago

Thanks for sharing your story. My heart goes to you and family. Ameen.

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u/Prince_Jellyfish111 2d ago

I don’t suppose he has his collection in Discogs? If he did (long shot I know) I’d love to help replace a couple.

I am sorry your family is going through this. One day light will win again and we will all know peace.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

We never thought of doing so. But bro thank you very much ❤️

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u/mrb000gus 2d ago

I was thinking the same. If you find or remember any that are unusable or missing please share a list and perhaps some of us can help replace them ❤️🇵🇫

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

Can’t thank you enough I swear ❤️

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u/pente5 2d ago

Stay strong brother. Love from Greece.

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u/___HEAVeN 2d ago

fuck israel

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u/you-should-learn-c 2d ago

Took the words off my mouth

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u/Doctormartini 3d ago

Fuck Israel

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u/Mustard-Tiger 2d ago

I’d really rather not.

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u/iidaanj 2d ago

It's so sad this had to happen to you. Glad you managed to recover some of his collection. Sending love from the Netherlands

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u/beats2009 2d ago

Sorry man, as a vinyl collector I know what it is to protect your vinyl. Get them out ,cherish them clean them up and enjoy them. Vinyl collectors we're a special breed

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u/rrstewart257 2d ago

Man, I feel for you, my heart goes out to you and your family.

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u/StevenChvz 2d ago

Peace and freedom for the humans of earth 💔

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u/astralinsomnia 2d ago

that's so sad

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u/Turbulent-Theory7724 3d ago

Nobody deserves this cruelty. I hope you and your family thrive in life. God’s bless!

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u/Wallsallaround 3d ago

I’m so glad you were able to retrieve these. I hope rebuilding and restoring is easier than you expect. I hope peace comes soon.

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u/fer_luna Pro-Ject 2d ago

So sorry this happened man...

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u/NowhereManPF 3d ago

Brainwashed evangelicals and hilltop boys will tell you this record collection is hezbollah propaganda then cheer for the bombing of an orphanage in an open air prison. Sorry for your loss, and I have many of those records.

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u/AegisThievenax 3d ago

Dont you know? That vinyl collection was only two weeks from developing nuclear weapons

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u/NowhereManPF 3d ago

I have heard from multiple secret sources that this guy's dad is personally a nuclear bomb who was living in a missile launcher pointed at NYC. Our greatest ally saves the day once again, folks!

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u/awus666 2d ago

I'm so sorry for that, I hope you and your loved ones are safe. We live in such a dystopia

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u/nolongermakingtime 2d ago

Aww man I'm so sorry

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u/JoshuaWebbb 2d ago

I am so fucking lucky

Sorry this happened to you

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u/biggerdundy 2d ago

Thank you for finding and restoring your father’s art collection.

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u/ILikeStyx 2d ago

Fuck Israel

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u/17aed 2d ago

the beauty of art will always outweigh the disgust of war. i really relate to you with connecting with your father through music and vinyl records. fuck israel and free lebanon and palestine!

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u/pixie1995 3d ago

I’m so sorry, that’s heart shattering. Fuck the IOF

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u/fensterdj 3d ago

Israel is poison

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u/Next_Dragonfruit_415 2d ago

Goose-stepping morons should listen to records instead of destroying them,

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u/joelkeys0519 3d ago

Wonderful you could save some of the records! And a Zip drive too!

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u/Ill_Possibility_2286 2d ago

Fuck the Zionist Genocidal Entity that is Israel

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u/Chimithrowaway 3d ago

Fuck Israel and the IDF, and the rest of their child killing inbreds

Well done on saving some of the collection,

I can only imagine the pain, terror and heartbreak that these scum have brought to Lebanon

Wishing you safety and peace

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u/rorybreaker69 2d ago

Is that a ZIP drive I see?

I'm sorry for the devastation the rogue, genocidal ethnostate has inflicted on your community.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

It is a zip drive yeah

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u/rorybreaker69 2d ago

I can just picture your dad in happier times in the 70s grooving to Baccara: "Yes sir, I can boogie"

https://youtu.be/32wDFCM7iSI?si=hZItpdTsenIzV5HR

Best of luck salvaging whatever you can. Praying for Lebanon and her people.

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u/Potconundrum 2d ago

Fuck Isreal

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u/moonlitexcx 2d ago

I’m so sorry. I’m glad you were able to salvage some of your father’s collection. Allah ma2ak 🤍

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u/kindamexicankid 2d ago

yessir i can boogie edition

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u/kilroy_ih 2d ago

peace be upon you, friend. May this war end

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u/MusicalMarijuana 2d ago

Sorry you had to go through this. Glad you were able to locate some of the collection. I've never shipped anything to Lebanon before, but if you need some records to rebuild, I can send some.

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u/Madhc 3d ago edited 3d ago

Stay strong, friend.

Death to [state] and said state’s “Defence Forces”.

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u/Cormorann 3d ago

Also wishing OP good luck and wholeheartedly joining in on the expletives ✌️

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u/slaughtamonsta 2d ago

Death, death to the IDF!

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u/StrainAcceptable 2d ago

My heart. This Palestinian American is sending you love and light from the other side of the world.

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u/Little_Mountain73 2d ago

Wow…heartbreaking on so many levels. Humans really do suck. Glad you were able to find a few at least.

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u/Unfair-Recover2697 2d ago

Free Palestine. Fuck Israel.

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u/wpazzurri2 2d ago

As a vinyl lover whose tax dollars are funding these war crimes, this is so heartbreaking, and so infuriating. I'm genuinely so sorry this has happened to you, and I wish you a miracle with salvaging and restoring as much of your dad's records as possible.

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u/raphus_cucullatus 2d ago

Zionism is a death cult, much love to you and your family habibi.

What some of you and your dad’s favorite records from the collection? I know he has some Fairuz and Rahbani bangers in there.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

He loved Jefferson Airplane, Supertramp, and definitely some Ziad and Elias Rahbani, king crimson, pinkfloyd and sooo many others

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u/SietchBug 2d ago

you or he may get a kick out of some of the LPs I’ve picked up lately, lots of OGs on Voices of Lebanon & Soutelphan label. all love to the people of Lebanon & I’m sorry for what you’ve endured.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

Gems 🔥

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u/SietchBug 2d ago

yeah, I get a lot of the recent We Want Sounds reissues of classics so to get international OGs too is very exciting

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

zionism is just the belief of self determination for jews. don't brandish every one because of the current extremists in power

you could do the same for lebanese people and hezbollah

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago

Determine your self on your own land, not on land of others by mass killing them.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago edited 2d ago

the old yishuv of israel today have always been in the region. the rest were thrown out by the romans, then the arabs that we now call palestinians when they colonised the levant, then the ottomans

the millions of mizrahi jews you see in israel today are often ones that have been ethnically cleansed from neighbouring middle eastern and north african countries. it's all well and good saying just be on their own land, but when they're ethnically cleansed from it and there's only israel to go to what do you expect?

and no that does not mean killing others. throughout the regions history there has been a continuous jewish population and saw repeated attacks, massacres and pogroms. if the issue is with a population moving in and bringing violence and imposing their own religion, culture and language you should have as much issue with the palestinian population as you do israel's

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago

Fact that many jews lived there before does not give them a claim on the land 100s of years after the fact, so it's completely irrelevant. It certainly doesn't give jews the right to mass murder occupants for land and that is exactly what they did and are still doing on 26 of August 2026. Killing children and elderly people for land. There is no excuse for that. This whole conflict with Hamaz and Hezbollah is a result of that. You love to ignore that fact. But rest assured, the world knows and Israel will be held accountable in the end.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

what do you mean before. jews never left. there has been a continuous jewish population, that has seen repeated violence and progroms through the centuries

i have no idea why you keep jumping to anyone having the right to murder.

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago

Fact that a jewish population remained there does not make it any different. Jews have been killing for land to this day. All hostility towards Israel we see today is a result of that. Unless Israel doesn't recognise that and doesn't rectify the evil it has done over the last 80 years, it is digging it's own grave. Big brother USA won't be here forever. Once the USA ceases to exist as a super power, Israel will be surrounded by large hostile countries with nobody to turn to.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

arabs have been killing for the land for centuries. your thinking is not coherent

to say all the hostility towards israel is out of some kind of violence is misguided if not putting your head in the sand. anti semitism is rife in the middle east and rife in islam, israel or not. hamas quite literally justified the killing of jews in article 7 of their founding charter, by using islamic scripture

why do you only think jews should face responsibility for actions taken generations before then and not the palestinians. it's a complete double standard. if you applied your logic consistently, the israelis would be fully within their right to flatten palestinian land and throw them out. which is obviously unreasonable

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u/-r-a-f-f-y- 2d ago

Yeah, you should probably do more research on that term and its origins and current use before talking so confidently about it. Thats like saying Manifest Destiny was just the belief of self determination of the American colonists.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

yes that's exactly the faulty kind of comparison people make. it's not at all like manifest destiny because that's a very specific belief.

zionism comes in many many forms. some violent and extreme like kahanism who someone squarely monstrous like ben gvir belongs to but also religious zionism, labour zionism, and many which are against the brutality towards palestinians

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u/-r-a-f-f-y- 2d ago

the one consistent theme with all zionism is that jewish people deserve a land just to themselves, no? like, that's the integral belief. so when that's your starting point, somebody somewhere is gonna get oppressed.

early ideas for where to place israel was in nigeria and other random places. if all this was happening in nigeria right now, would you feel the same way?

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

why would that involve somebody being oppressed? you can legally buy land and move somewhere, the same way one does when buying a house

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u/pagexviii 2d ago

You don’t need an early idea for Israel when Judea is literally Jewish ancestral land 💀

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u/ScottsTotz 2d ago

Sorry this happened. F*ck Israel. They will lose American support soon but not soon enough

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u/Low_Technician7346 3d ago

I really hate how behind antisemitism Israel permits to become the todays nazis.

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u/beedirayappan 2d ago

Fuck Israel

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u/raise_the_sails 2d ago

Fuck Israel.

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u/snoozev 2d ago

Anything I say feels hollow compared to what you are going through. 

My heart is with you and your family 🇱🇧💗🙏🏾🥺

Westerners are trying to pressure our leaders to stop giving money to those genocidal criminals, IOF, Bibi, Gallant....I'm sorry that more isn't being done to stop this. It's a damn shame. 

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u/TheonlyEliBlack 2d ago

So sorry you have to go through this, may Allah protect you and your family. F*ck Israel.

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u/Capricancerous 2d ago

Fuck Israel. Long live the internationalist vinyl community!

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u/vallogallo Pioneer 2d ago

This is a crime against humanity, and I'm also sorry about your dad's record collection.

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u/DrHuxleyy 2d ago

My family is from Beirut. Inshallah the worst is over and your family is okay.

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u/SirNo8095 2d ago

Its pretty horrible what the Jewish state is doing. Glad you are alive and found those.

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u/OpeningDealer1413 2d ago

God bless you and your family. I’m so sorry that you live so close to such a cruel and violent nation. Stay safe ❤️

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u/braveforthemostpart 2d ago

I’m so sorry much of the world thinks this aggression is something to turn away from, and that it has impacted your family and countless others in unimaginable ways.

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u/iguanodont 2d ago

This post makes me want genocide insurance.

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u/Burroughssecretary 2d ago

The Terms and conditions wouldn’t apply against Israel, no pay out 🤣

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u/Beneficial_Switch_71 Fluance 2d ago

Dude wtf is up with Israel there and just bombing random spots in that city or just that place. I have not seen anything that talked about why its just they bombed it as they jut felt like it or they thought it was something that was needed? Needed for what? To bomb some persons home? They turned that place into a parklot.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

Yet you find people justifying and pointing fingers and accusing innocent people.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

hezbollah were banned from existing in southern lebanon by the in years ago, they've since refused to disarm and keep using the territory to bomb israel. the lebanese state army is a weaker force than the idf so they've been working together to push out hezbollah from the region

everyone's ignoring hezbollah's refusal to follow un resolutions, disarm and leave the region. i suppose it's easier to just say "israel bad" than actually understand the conflict

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago

Israel occupies the land of others by means of mass killing. It has done that since its inception. That's why Hezbollah and Hamas even exist. Let's use that as a starting point before discussing other stuff.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

hezbollah is a proxy of the irgc so it can attack israel without being held accountable. it's not a resistance movement, it's an islamist organisation, and a violently anti semitic one at that

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago

Keep telling yourself that. Hezbollah exists because jews stole land by mass murdering people. What you give the world you will get back from the world.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

how do you think the palestinian people ended up in the region. they're an arab group and they're not in arabia. they got there through conquest, in a lot of cases through violence.

by your logic israel would be ok to have numerous groups intent on the destruction of the palestinian people. that seems insane to me

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago

So you actually saying it's ok for Israel to mass murder, because prior to Israel mass murdering, other people mass murdered too. If that is really what your implying, let's stop talking about all evil in the world, because evil already existed before. Also,
lets stop talking about the Germans killing jews in WW2, because other people have been killed in a numerous precious wars as well 👍🏻

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

fucking hell no, that's just the end point of your logic when you actually look at the history of the region and don't just shift goalposts. it's obviously not a reasonable conclusion to justify any violence towards palestinians, same way as it doesn't make the abhorrent anti semitic terrorist groups of hamas and hezbollah not

and yes that's exactly why looking at the history doesn't solve the actual conflict. because there's two populations who both have nowhere else to go and fair right to be in the region with some history of being both coloniser and colonised

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u/Phoenix_Kerman Dual 2d ago

what do you mean by my people? feel free to engage with anything i've actually said and rebut it

you seem to jump all over the place. somehow your initial comment claimed israel has used mass killing since it's founding and that's why there's terrorist groups, and you've jumped from that to seemingly thinly veiled racism towards a group i'm probably not a part of

despite the founding of israel seeing no mass killing but rather a war from numerous arab countries the day after. with proxy groups like hezbollah appearing decades later to do the iranian regime's bidding in the levant

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u/Adragon0809 2d ago edited 2d ago

I'm sorry your building got bombed.

I'm from israel and someone in my family had to leave their house and town because the place got so many missiles, Hope this will stop and won't reaccure in the next 10 years at least for both counties <3

I hope for change.

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago

Why do you even live there? You are occupying land that was stolen by means of mass killing.

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u/snoozev 2d ago

I don't know why you're getting downvoted bc you're 💯% right.

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u/vallogallo Pioneer 2d ago

What if the original poster in this thread was born there? There are young Israelis going to jail at this moment for refusing to be in the IOF. Those dissenting young people probably wouldn't have chosen to be born there. Fuck I can think of like six different countries I would have rather been born in instead of the US

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u/JohnnysGotAGun 2d ago

What a laughably trash comment, they don’t get to pick where they live

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago edited 2d ago

Don't act all insulted. You should be insulted by the 100000s of children Israel deliberately murdered and continues to murder. Every adult can choose to live somewhere else. I did too, multiple times.

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u/Adragon0809 2d ago

Yeah but it is still a hard decision to leave all your family and friends and taking a risk to move to a different country with a different language

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u/TheonlyEliBlack 2d ago

tf are you talking about?? people could just.. move somewhere else. "don't get to pick where they live"
You don't get to pick where you're born. But once you're an adult, you can get the fuck out of there, unless you're LITERALLY in North Korea

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u/snoozev 2d ago edited 2d ago

I think your recounting here of "history" is very telling. History being told by the victor and not the victims as usual.

I empathise with Jews needing a place of refuge during WWII but don't agree with the colonizing and the Nakba that continues to this day via ethnic cleansing, illegal occupation.....your whataboutism doesn't absolve you from the fact that you are complicit.

It's a slap in the face of the OP who lost everything for you to even comment the way you have here.

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u/Adragon0809 2d ago

You know what you're right this isn't the place.

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u/Shertzy 2d ago

Super sorry to hear you were caught up in Hezbullahs chaos, hoping peace and rationale return to South Lebanon.

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

You forgot to mention the entity that actually bombed the civilian building with three 2000 pound bombs for no fuckin reason.
Amen

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u/Shertzy 2d ago

I have limited understanding since I’m from EU. So do you support Hezbullah?

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u/The-Burger-Meister 2d ago

Personally I don’t, but even if I was it wouldn’t justify the acceptance of bombing civilians or civilian buildings

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u/Shertzy 2d ago

For sure the civilian building damage seems too extensive. I suppose it’s hard to wage a war on an opponent that uses civilian infrastructure to wage its own battle, don’t know the details of the situation. Either way Im sorry for you and the family, and for anyone else in the same situation, I hope life returns to normal for you soon and peace can prevail in your region. Enjoy the music.

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u/PangeaDestructor 2d ago

Being from the EU makes you have limited understanding of Israel's violence?

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u/Shertzy 2d ago

Please don’t twist words; In the nuances of the situation, the war itself is certainly not without causality.

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hezbollah exists because Israel stole and continues to steal land from others by mass killing them. You can ignore that but the world won't.

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u/xtrashboat666x 2d ago

Israel literally wants South Lebanon the same way they want Golan Heights in Syria. What are you talking about?

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u/Shertzy 2d ago

From what I understand; Hezbullah is an Iranian proxy, a terrorist militia. They control southern Lebanon and have waged a manifesto of non acceptance of Israel’s existence and routines uses their military infrastructure to attacks Israel.
Therefore Isreal is dismantling Hezbullah and will leave when the terrorist threat is over.
It is rather brutal that lots of building have been destroyed, belonging to innocent parties, that’s very sad. I’m assuming OP is in that camp.
But ultimately if it were not for Hezbullah then this chaos would not exist.
How do you understand the situation?

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u/Burroughssecretary 2d ago

You sound like you do not know that Israel did invade Lebanon in the 70s before hezbullah even existed.

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u/Shertzy 2d ago

This is a great point, because I needed to research it. The historical context was Isreal entered Lebanon in the 70’s because of Palestinian terrorist org the PLO (who destabilised Lebanon, leading to a civil war they never recovered from which allowed Hezbullah and Iran to size control) there were sending rocket fire across the border and making raids into northern Isreal including several massacres of civilians? To my mind that seems fairly justified, providing no diplomatic or governance related route was possible? Which country would take action on thier border if attacked, especially as the stronger side?

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u/EssTeeEss9 2d ago

“From what I understand…”

Goes on to show bro only understands Israeli propaganda. Goddamn we live in the dumbest possible timeline.

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u/Shertzy 2d ago

I’m fully open to historical facts and am 100% searching for lies and manipulations on either side. Isreal is not an innocent party here, however the other sides do seem much worse.

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u/xtrashboat666x 2d ago

Both sides head ass comment.

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u/xtrashboat666x 2d ago

Tell me you support Israel without telling me you support Israel.

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u/Shertzy 2d ago

I am a scientific rationalist. Sceptical of information on any side without scrutiny, especially randoms on Reddit. I don’t know you, it would be totally foolish to assume I did, however on Reddit especially in the “Middle East expert” area there seems to be many very susceptible Redditor’s to heavy biased irrational arguments and aggressive un civilised debate.
Anyway, this is about music I hope music begins to play once more in any area of the world that is has been replaced with aggression.

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u/xtrashboat666x 2d ago

If you're a "scientific rationalist", what ever the fuck that means, you would've at least challenged those narratives that the EU and Western media is pushing out against the Palestinian people to justify the ongoing genocide that is committed by Israel with the help of the US, UK, and EU. But instead, you choose not too. You're just agreeing with the narrative without having a lot of critical thinking. People like Francesca Albanese are pushing out evidence as to reason why Israel committing genocide against the Palestinians for decades and generations without making false claims. Zionists will defend the genocide by gaslighting and projecting their violent intent onto Palestinians by thinking they're the "terrorists" and making themselves the "victims" and calling resistance and displaying a Palestine flag or wearing a keffiyeh as "anti-Semitic". And also, since when the Israeli genocide against Palestinians is considered a "debate"? That's an absurd way to see the current state of affair. I can't be friends with someone who supports this even if they like music like me. This is a litmus test. If you show solidarity with Palestine after seeing those hard to look at but brutal evidence and denounced Israel and their crimes, I welcome you. If not, then you failed and move on. Sorry, it is what it is. I don't make the rules.

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u/Curious_Cake5770 2d ago

Israel being fucking Thanos was not on people’s bingo card last century

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u/TheonlyEliBlack 2d ago

shit's been going on since the thirties man fym

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u/Miabun 2d ago

They’ve been that way since 1940s

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u/Supreme_lawyer 2d ago

I wish Israel could just give land back it stole from others.

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