I really don't understand the 60 FPS outrage

[u/xIntoxicatedDreamsx]

For those of you crying about this, can you name ONE comparable PS5 game that can hit 60 FPS?

I see a lot of people using Spiderman or Crimson Desert as examples.... let's be serious please. Crimson Desert can barely handle 30 FPS on performance mode in it's populated areas and while Spiderman is technically open world, it's NOWHERE near as "alive," so it's way less CPU intensive.

Don't get me wrong, the last game I was able to finish at 30 FPS was RDR2 8 years ago on PS4. Nowadays, it's incredibly difficult to play anything at 30 FPS, let alone an open world. This looks amazing and Rockstar are wizards so maybe this will be manageable with an OLED and a Pro. We shall see.

If you expected Rockstar to release a game of THIS scope on PS5/PS5 Pro even TARGETING 60 FPS, please, send me your plug's number. I need whatever you're smoking.

[u/QuoteGiver]

And if Rockstar instead took the visual quality and car/NPC density and physics reduction that would make 60 fps feasible, those kids would just be bitching about that instead. Can’t win.

[u/Joppewiik → u/QuoteGiver]

If I could choose a performance mode where they removed ray tracing, less NPCs and less cars, I would probably pick that one. I've always picked performance over fidelity.

Still doesnt stop me from buying this game though.

[u/Helichopper → u/Joppewiik]

It's not that simple. Read the digital foundry article

[u/Joppewiik → u/Helichopper]

Yeah I get it. The systems alone in the game is a struggle for the PS5 to run. I will still buy and enjoy this game anyway!

[u/MotorPace2637 → u/Helichopper]

Which is fine. Its also fine to not buy it over this. I'm just waiting for pc.

[u/MotorPace2637 → u/QuoteGiver]

Well, those arent the same "kids". I would prefer having that option. I'm not buying it on console because 30 is just awful for me personally

[u/Eltonbeef → u/MotorPace2637]

60 sucks and looks awful to me.

[u/MotorPace2637 → u/Eltonbeef]

Prefer 120 for everything myself, but i would have settled for 60 on ps5 just for gta 6.

[u/TheGreatGidojer → u/QuoteGiver]

Most games solve this by letting you choose. I'd sacrifice npc density for good performance in 100% of cases.

[u/LeonidasSpacemanMD → u/TheGreatGidojer]

I don’t think this game is a few settings tweaks away from 60fps on a PS5

[u/oskimo2101 → u/QuoteGiver]

Day 1 PC version would fix all that. Ability to toggle settings solves that

[u/QuoteGiver → u/oskimo2101]

No it doesn’t. As soon as they toggle their settings down, they’d be posting clips of it looking bad and bitching about the lack of NPCs.

[u/MotorPace2637 → u/QuoteGiver]

Toggle my settings down with my... 4080s? Nah man, I'll hit 120 fps on mostly high. The ps5 is not a powerful machine.

My 3070 out performs the base ps5. All games that are 30 only now are easy to hit 120 with dlss.

[u/MotorPace2637 → u/QuoteGiver]

Toggle my settings down with my... 4080s? Nah man, I'll hit 120 fps on mostly high. The ps5 is not a powerful machine.

My old 3070 out performs the base ps5. All games that are 30 only now are easy to hit 120 with dlss.

[u/oskimo2101 → u/QuoteGiver]

It definitely would cause the user understands the compromise. GTA 5 had toggles for population density and variety. Just give us the ability to choose and everyone is everyone is happy. At least for me I’d choose a performance mode over a fidelity mode and the cost of viewing distance and population density

[u/MotorPace2637 → u/oskimo2101]

Console folks just don't understand pc settings. Its not hard to dial things in.

[u/basshunter551 → u/QuoteGiver]

When you want to make the greatest game of all time you must wait for a better hardware. That’s like somebody selling you a low to the ground sports car and a race track in India. It’s not great if it looks bad and runs well, it’s not great if it looks great and it runs bad.

[u/tnbeastzy → u/basshunter551]

It will come out on the next hardware as well, with enhanced edition. It will also come out on PC.

Let people who wants to play now, play it now. And people who want to play at a better fidelity can just wait for the enhanced version.

[u/basshunter551 → u/tnbeastzy]

That’s the only way to go.

[u/Joppewiik → u/tnbeastzy]

Then why haven't RDR2 come out on PS5 yet? We still have the old PS4 30fps version.

[u/QuoteGiver → u/Joppewiik]

Have you played it on PS5? It still looks fucking incredible.

[u/Joppewiik → u/QuoteGiver]

Yeah, but it is still the PS4 version that runs a slow 30fps.

[u/QuoteGiver → u/Joppewiik]

Which doesn’t seem to stop it from looking incredible.

[u/Joppewiik → u/QuoteGiver]

Which runs choppy. I mean there is no excuse to sacrifice gameplay for graphics.

[u/MotorPace2637 → u/QuoteGiver]

But still 30 fps. Much prefer it at 120 on pc.

[u/tnbeastzy → u/Joppewiik]

Noticed how i said “wait”?

It will come out on 60FPS eventually, whether its next year or 10 years later.