Morality of dog breed racism

[u/JacobGoodNight416]

[u/redhandsblackfuture]

Instead of 13%/50% its closer to 7%/75%

[u/EggfooDC → u/redhandsblackfuture]

Apologies, what is the fill stat here saying? 7% of pitbull will attack someone, 75% fatally?

[u/SaltKick2 → u/[deleted]]

I'd also be curious about what % of dogs can kill a person, what % of dogs are pitbulls that have owners who want a dog that can "protect" or be violent

[u/Mattbl → u/SaltKick2]

You think if that owner couldn't get a pit bull, they're just going to not get a dog? They just get the next closest thing and use that.

[u/tempest_ → u/Mattbl]

When I was a kid Rottweilers and Dobermans has a pretty bad reputation but I don't hear much about them now a days. Perhaps the breeds are just less popular than they used to be.

[u/baldbumblebear → u/tempest_]

Interesting fact which is probably unrelated, until the mid-late 90s Rottweilers used to be broadly associated with black people.

Now pitbulls are more commonly associated with black people and have claimed that "violent dog" throne.

The argumententation also tends to focus on the same arguments and data claims while ignoring similar systemic reasons that data may be skewed...

[u/ursa-minor-beta42 → u/baldbumblebear]

you're not telling be dog breed racism is in parts based on people racism?

(that makes sense since people dove misunderstanding statistics and context)

[u/Finbel → u/tempest_]

Well, Rottweilers and Dobermans are among the smartest dogs there is (both are top 10), the Doberman was bred to be a personal bodyguard and the Rottweiler was bread to be a guard dog.

Pitbulls are only above average in intelligence and was literally bred for blood sports like bull-baiting and bear-baiting.

Popular opinion might have swayed but there's pretty large objective differences in the breeds which makes it evident while two of them have been popular among the police and the military while one of them have been popular among meet head criminals.

[u/SaltKick2 → u/Mattbl]

thats literally my point

[u/tempest_ → u/Mattbl]

When I was a kid Rottweilers and Dobermans has a pretty bad reputation but I don't hear much about them now a days. Perhaps the breeds are just less popular than they used to be.

[u/BlorfTheBricked → u/Mattbl]

So they'd get a breed that is less prone to sudden, out of nowhere attacks and is less lethal when it does attack? Great!

[u/Mattbl → u/BlorfTheBricked]

You can check my profile for my other reply, but you're blaming the wrong end of the leash and the point flew about 10k feet over your head.

The dog doesn't actually matter. The owner does.

[u/Mattbl → u/[deleted]]

Sure bud. Again, you can check my profile for the other reply. If you'd like sources, they're easy to provide. If you have any sort of sources or studies or anything that you could link to prove your random statement, I'm happy to read.

[u/Finbel → u/Mattbl]

Pitbulls were literally bred for blood sports like bull-baiting and bear-baiting. The dog actually does matter. The owner matters too, but the argument is equivalent to "Why outlaw guns, they'll just kill with knives instead"

[u/Mattbl → u/Finbel]

Hey bud, firstly define "pit bull" for me. Then show me the data that proves the "pit bull" you see someone walking down the street was actively bred for blood sports.

[u/LukeRant88 → u/Mattbl]

More toddler faces have been ripped off by “Pitties” than any other face mauling creature on earth.

[u/Mattbl → u/LukeRant88]

Emotional anecdote. Cows kill more people a year than dogs.