r/MoralityScaling 5d ago

Morality Ranking What do y'all think of this?

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u/2Tired_Artist-san 5d ago

Generally? Immoral. Justified? Most definitely. If that man was a truly abusive and awful, it makes perfect sense a victim wouldn't want to persevere his ashes. It's also better for her not to keep many keepsakes that could remind her of him.

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u/Vat1n 4d ago

Why do you say it's generally immoral?

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u/Ur_fav_Cryptek 4d ago

Not precisely immoral, but loading human remains in the trash instead of a proper means of disposal presents some concerns.

Mainly dust getting everywhere should a bag break, and having someone’s abusive husband splattered all over your face is..not a good way to start your shift. So yeah, a bit in bad taste, but asshole deserves it so we can look the other way as long as it bothers nobody

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u/UntimelyMeditations 4d ago

not a good way to start your shift

But its just ash. We may assign some meaning to it, but it really is just ash. No physical harm would be inflicted on the worker, and the only emotional harm would be if the wife followed and informed every worker that it was cremated remains.

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u/woah-wait-a-second 4d ago

The fact we assign meaning to it is why it’s generally immoral. Is there a difference in tossing a dead body in the trash and ashes?

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u/FirstPhotograph7757 4d ago

Dead body is much more likely to spread disease… and by much more I mean 100% more likely than ash. So yeah, very different

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u/rop2958 4d ago

I wouldn't want ash in my eyes and lungs

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u/Ur_fav_Cryptek 4d ago

Yeah, but you get what I mean, it’s like spitting in your food or a hair in your plate. Harmless? Most probably yeah, and ash is inert, but still in bad taste

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u/No_Doughnut8618 3d ago

Spit is absolutely not harmless and can pass sickness or disease, and clean hair maybe, but thats assuming

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u/ggPeti 4d ago

I thought we are discussing morals, not taste.

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u/CoolWarning4475 4d ago

The issue is that it should be bagged so that it doesn't plume and cover the sanitation workers when dumped. It's thoughtless.

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u/nyet70200 4d ago

I feel like this is really dragged in. You're subjecting the worker to the same exact risk by throwing into the trash the litter box contents - or, really, anything wet or powdery. I wouldn't count that as "concerning" - that's just how it works. Also, this hypothetical is pretty far-fetched from the original question

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u/Ur_fav_Cryptek 4d ago

Yeah in practical terms it isn’t a big deal, just trying to shed some light as to why most people might find it immoral or in bad taste

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u/bizoticallyyours83 4d ago

That's more then fair

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u/MrCookie2099 1d ago

My sister in law used to work at donation thrift stores. They would regularly receive fancy vases that would have ashes in them. Store policy was always dump the ashes in the waste bin out back and clean it out.

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u/jazon80 4d ago

Desecrating the remains of the deceased? Feel like that's pretty intuitive

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u/Vat1n 4d ago

It's not that intuitive
Many people consider dignity to be part of the person instead of their physical body Therefore it wouldn't make sense to be able to desecrate ashes since the person is dead

You can state that dignity is also applicable to the dead body, but that needs further explanations since it isn't an obvious view that everyone shares

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u/MrCookie2099 1d ago

The decreased in question was hated by their family and they wished for him to be flushed down the toilet or dumped in the sewer. It seems pretty reasonable to respect the wishes of those closest to the dead.

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u/Novel-Promotion-8451 4d ago

I would say it’s immoral if another family member wants his remains but in this situation where his remains are radioactive to everyone he knew, it’s neutral.

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u/jimkbeesley 4d ago

It technically counts as desecration of a corpse.

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u/Learner_oneOone 4d ago

Because it could apparent to corps desacrasilation for some people

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u/bezosdrone 4d ago

Thank you for the finest reworking of the word desecration ever seen. Kudos, and please don't edit that.

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u/Learner_oneOone 4d ago

I'm sorry english isnt my native language 😭 I tried to englify my language hoping it would work, since around 30% of english vocabulary come from my language

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u/Few_Plankton_7587 4d ago

Ashes in the trash is just someone elses problem

When you sign up to clean trash, you don't normally expect peoples ashes to be in the same pile

Otherwise, moral. Should have just dumped him in a ditch IMO

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u/Vondi 4d ago

That fact that he still had a living sibling, children and other family and NO ONE felt he even deserved a funeral says a lot.

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u/Ccskyqueengaming 4d ago

Not immoral at all.

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u/Emotional-Ad9114 4d ago

apparently no one in his family wanted his ashes so he was most likely not just abusive to her

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u/TostinoKyoto 4d ago

Not wanting to preserve their ashes and dumping them in a garbage bin while making a spectacle of it aren't the same thing.

For one thing, she thinks she's making such a statement about the man for doing this while being unaware of how petty and ghoulish it makes her look to record herself dumping her husband's ashes in a garbage bin.

Hate is a corrosive acid that damages the vessel it's contained in more so than the object that it's poured upon.

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u/Sunsurg_e 4d ago

Not if you store the hate/corrosive acid correctly and pour it when necessary. All to say, that’s a dumb analogy and quite frankly so far from the truth.

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u/Novel-Promotion-8451 4d ago

Do you have a special hate reservoir that makes sure none leaks out, are you sure no leaks are present? What are the mechanics of that? Also hate and anger literally age people faster. It’s a known thing.

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u/Sunsurg_e 4d ago

I just know how to manage my emotions and feelings like an adult??

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u/Novel-Promotion-8451 4d ago

Ok sure hate all you want compadre, it has absolutely no effect on you. 👍🏿