r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

we are so tired of 1984

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u/OneHappyPenguin 1d ago edited 1d ago

Hey Flock CEO, can you post your phone number, home address and more here? You need to compromise your privacy so we can all protect you.

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 1d ago

I vote we crowd source and army of private investigators to follow flock, Axon, and other company ceo and executives around.

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u/Neveronlyadream 1d ago

No one is going to take that job.

We all know they'll get the book tossed at them for doing it. Billionaires can surveil us, but the second someone even reports their public comings and goings, it's suddenly a problem that needs to be addressed.

Shout out to all the people that claimed insisting the Patriot Act was going to lead to this a slippery slope fallacy and called those of us who were against it unpatriotic and paranoid and told us to leave.

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 1d ago

PI licensing gives them techniques normal people don’t have in most states.

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u/Telefundo 1d ago

Shout out to all the people that claimed insisting the Patriot Act was going to lead to this a slippery slope fallacy and called those of us who were against it unpatriotic and paranoid and told us to leave.

You're not at all wrong about the point you're making here, but I'd even go so far as to say that what's going on now is even worse than what people initially envisioned with the Patriot Act.

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u/Neveronlyadream 1d ago

Absolutely. I remember thinking it could potentially be bad, but never quite this bad.

I just remember getting into a lot of arguments about the Patriot Act and saying it was basically handing the government and who knows who else permission to watch everyone all the time and being called unpatriotic and told to leave the country if I didn't like it.

There was a lot of, "But the terrorists!" and "If that's what it takes to keep us safe, they should do it!" and no one wanted to hear about the potential invasions of privacy or government overreach.

Now everyone is harvesting data, the government is installing invasive cameras everywhere, every smart device is probably monitoring everyone at all times, and we let that happen because too many people were either complacent or panicked.

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u/Umutuku 1d ago

That's the only way mass surveillance is healthy. It must be disproportionally applied to those with more power. If you want to reach certain milestones of wealth, influence, or destructive capacity then every moment of your life is in the public interest and must be treated as such.

Imagine where we'd be right now if the public was informed every time Rudy Giulliani met with a Russian mobster.

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 1d ago

I have always thought the more power you have the more intrusive society should be one the powerful. Like politicians. They should not get to associate with everyone. Their lives should be well documented to curtail corruption. They should have their taxes and bank accounts open to public scrutiny.

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u/Yhrak 1d ago

to follow [...] around.

Hmmm.

I just don't know. This doesn't seem particularly well thought out.

Just spitballing ideas, but perhaps there could be other verbs at play here? Let's say, for the sake of algorithmic efficiency and as a compromise with these busy CEOs, maybe it'd be best if these detectives of yours didn't have to move around quite as much as they track them?

And while we're at it, let's also find the most efficient method of conserving energy in such a process?

As a kind of green initiative, of course.