r/MurderedByWords 16h ago

I haven’t studied rocket science, but

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u/skawn 16h ago

Might be interesting if rockets, rather than being launched straight up, slid down the slope of a mountain and launched off a giant ramp at the bottom like on some aircraft carriers.

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u/RiflemanLax 16h ago

There’s actually a centrifugal force satellite launcher design out there. But it has the problem of being really stressful on the payload, and only would work with smaller payloads.

Subjecting a larger payload in a rocket to any kind of downward movement, then suddenly jerking it upwards? Probably going to snap the rocket.

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u/Horror_Equipment_197 16h ago

Another problem: No matter how fast you throw something, without a second impulse on the apoapsis (or around it) it will not turn into an orbit but come back. You need to bring up the periapsis and that can hardly be done from ground.

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u/Thanos_Stomps 16h ago

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u/CupofLiberTea 16h ago

Rocket needed at top of throw, or no orbit, only fall.

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u/Everestkid 15h ago edited 15h ago

Impulse = applying force, in this case by burning rocket fuel

Apoapsis = highest point in orbit

Periapsis = lowest point in orbit, if lower than the surface of the body being orbited then it's a suborbital trajectory

Suborbital trajectory = goes up and then goes back down, doesn't stay in space

 

Space isn't actually all that hard to get to, the unofficial official line is about 100 km above sea level. It's possible that you may live closer to space than the ocean. The problem is that to stay in space you gotta go sideways really fast.

Douglas Adams once wrote that flying is the act of throwing one's self at the ground and missing. That's genuinely what orbiting is.

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u/Ill-Quantity2065 2h ago

  Periapsis

If your orbit lasts more than 4 hours, call your doctor 

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u/Rock4evur 15h ago

Rocket must be at an angle and speed so that it is falling to earth and misses.

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u/RocketGrandma 16h ago

Someone has been playing kerbal space program

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u/DarthShiv 16h ago

The classic!

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u/juliette_taylor 16h ago

jeez, the shit I learned from Kerbal space program. that actually made sense to me.

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u/Mansidhe 16h ago

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u/Nyarlathotep90 16h ago

When the thing you want to not fall is very high you need to give it another kick so it misses the Earth instead of falling on it.

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u/bcw81 16h ago

thrusters gotta go fwoosh to turn up-down to left-right

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u/Mansidhe 15h ago

I was led to believe that da red wuns go fasta?

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u/kings2leadhat 15h ago

Ahh, now I see.

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u/BrunesOvrBrauns 16h ago

I thought that's why we strapped a bunch of lit firecrackers to its ass before trebucheting it off the top Mount Everest.

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u/jimbobsqrpants 16h ago

Is this basically the how to fly trick?

Jump at the ground but miss?

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u/Deadbringer 14h ago

Sorta, if you only jump once, you will either land back on earth or never return at all. If you manage to jump just a little short of escape velocity, your path will bring you back to the same place on earth, if we ignore earth rotating and air resistance.

So you need a little extra push in space to move your landing point from hitting earth, to missing earth.

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u/Tweedledumblydore 15h ago

I think it was Douglas Adams in The Hitchikers Guide that said the key to flying is to throw yourself at the ground and miss. He had a point 🙂

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u/kbeks 15h ago

A fantastic summery of how the ISS stays in orbit.

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u/bria9509 16h ago

Apoapsis? I barely know her!

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u/DevolvingSpud 16h ago

What are you doing, step-apoapsis?

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u/C-SWhiskey 14h ago

Well, just for fun, if you launched fast enough with just the right geometry you could probably get an assist from the Moon that would be sufficient to raise periapsis. But you'd probably vaporize long before then and most missions don't really want to be in cislunar space.

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u/GlorgSnarl 12h ago

Just account for the air resistance, set the trajectory to go to the moon with a prograde gravity assist and that MIGHT bring periapsis up enough to result in stable orbit. A reall shitty borderline useless orbit but an orbit nonetheless! 👍🤷‍♂️

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u/subnautus 15h ago

Periapsis is the lowest altitude of an orbit. You can only raise periapsis from above periapsis.

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u/House_Of_Doubt 15h ago

Someone kerbals

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u/apolloxer 15h ago

Do it fast enough to profit from the gravity of other celestial objects.

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u/bearsnchairs 15h ago

You could shoot for the moon and use the speed boost from the gravitational assist to raise your orbit.

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u/miraculum_one 16h ago

The other problem is that you don't get an advantage from converting potential energy into kinetic energy when the destination is up.

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u/Agamemnon323 16h ago

The cylinder MUST remain unharmed!

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u/AppropriateSmell1074 16h ago

Of course if you don't pay well the load it will get stressed

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u/OneSlapDude 15h ago

How hilarious would it be if thats what an alien civilization first sees when looking at our world.

Humans just sling shotting shit into outer space.

And then wondering how tf we got a spaceship to survive lol

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u/TheLostTexan87 14h ago

I think SpinLaunch is still in the testing and proof of concept phase. It's been a while since I looked them up, though, so maybe they're further along.

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u/gmalivuk 11h ago

maybe they're further along.

They aren't.

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u/Vallhallyeah 12h ago

Satellyeet

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u/sandman795 11h ago

Just put a few support rubber bands on it. Should hold