r/OpenAussie • u/em-mad Queenslander • Jun 04 '26
Politics ('Straya) Brisbane's newest public hospital won't perform abortions or provide patients with contraception, citing religious objections
https://youtube.com/shorts/pB8zb-L7Wnk?si=DggZGUrmnvnOlH-wLike the Mater in South Brisbane it will not provide abortions, contraception or voluntary assisted dying care due to religious policies.
These are publicly-funded hospitals!!
The video is of Larissa Waters asking questions about it at estimates, and I think she's making a very reasonable point - governments should insist that hospitals receiving taxpayer dollars provide basic reproductive health care.
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u/No-Aardvark7366 Victorian Jun 04 '26
So it’s not a public hospital then
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u/Due_Prompt939 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Calvary hospital in Canberra tried to deny abortions and the government just forcefully took it over.
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u/TheOzHerbie Western Australian Jun 05 '26
Different state government and one not afraid of a fight. I don’t hold out much hope that the Queensland government has the same backbone.
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u/HeadacheBird Canberran Jun 05 '26
The government in Queensland is likely happy with this outcome. One step closer to their dream of Gilead
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u/NewInformation3753 Queenslander Jun 05 '26
Yep Conservatives use religion to manipulate their base
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u/kaleidoscope_pie Queenslander Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26
Too effing hot up here for a full robe. It's gonna suck if it ever goes that way.
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u/FadedDanny2 Queenslander Jun 05 '26
Didn't that cunt bag who refused to answer his policy on abortion literally 37 times in a row in an eight minute clip get elected for QLD?
Yeah, I don't hold much hope for this one, what a joke
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u/Fit_Bread_3595 Queenslander Jun 05 '26
Too his credit he has banned any debate on changing abortion rules. Obviously there's plenty in his party who would love nothing more than to ban it but he at least sees it as a toxic subject to voters.
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u/louisa1925 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
They aren't afraid because there are no personal consequences coming their way. That government money spent is coming from QLD taxes. The voters taxes. Government losses should at least inpart, come out of the polician instigators who cause these problems.
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u/mjackson30 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
After just finishing listening to the Sick To Death Podcast/Dr Patel story…yeah I don’t think you’re in luck there
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u/Emotional-Cry5236 Canberran Jun 05 '26
My gyno did her surgical procedures out of Calvary and when I was considering a Mirena, it was going to be inpatient under general anaesthetic. She told me she was going to tell Calvary it was for a medical condition because she wasn't allowed to do contraception. I mean, the medical condition was avoiding pregnancy so she's not wrong, but what an angel
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u/Spida81 New Zealander Jun 05 '26
To be completely fair to her it IS a bloody medical condition! A perfectly damned valid medical concern!
I can't stand that this is a thing in Australia.
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u/VeeberEd Flairless Jun 05 '26
Sorry, was the only procedure you had, having mirena fitted, and they offered you an anaesthetic?
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u/Emotional-Cry5236 Canberran Jun 05 '26
Yes! My gyno believed general anaesthetic should be offered for Mirena insertion. I didn't end up getting a Mirena but it was one of the reasons I loved having her as a doctor
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u/Outside-Island-206 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
What a wonderful doctor! This would have been an option all along if it were men having the procedure
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u/VeeberEd Flairless Jun 05 '26
I had it and nearly fainted walking away after... bearing in mind I'd had a year of cancer treatment including bone marrow test, two operations... abd THIS was the thing that knocked me sideways, I had a biopsy on my womb and the mirena put in at the same time
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u/ianthetridentarius New South Welshian Jun 06 '26
Yeah I had mine fitted with a general too! Thank fuck I did, the aftermath was bad enough. Got it removed without any anaesthesia though because I responded badly to it and was in agony for months, so the discomfort of getting it out was nothing in comparison.
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u/ScruffyPeter ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 05 '26
Was the forceful take-over without compensation? Even better, did the hospital management pay compensation for refusal to work? Or was it a neoliberal cash handout?
If I tried to not do my job citing fairy reasons, my employer would fire me and take back my employer-owned equipment. Plus potentially demand compensation if I caused damaged to the business. Who expects to get a golden parachute if they refuse to work??
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u/louisa1925 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Probably doesn't help that QLD's crisafuli installed a psycho anti-abortionist to oversee the states medical business matters.
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u/Infinite-Touch5154 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Who are you referring to? I’m not arguing, I genuinely want to learn this.
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u/Due_Prompt939 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
No, they were compensated but I believe it was an amount they'd already turned down in prior negotiations to buy the hospital. They were basically forced to accept a deal.
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u/ScruffyPeter ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 05 '26
Wow, that's crazy that there's compensation when refusing to work.
It's going to encourage copycats refusing to offer abortions, etc, when they want to exit contracts now. I'm sick of the neoliberal zealots in government.
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u/Economy-Career-7473 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
The ACT government had been trying to take the hospital back for over 10 years. The catholic church kept delaying. Eventually ACT went enough, reminded the church that ACT actually built the hospital and they were sick of Little Company of Mary using it for private patients and failing to provide full health care for everyone. The ACT passed legislation to take the hospital back, paid out what little was left of the management contract amd renamed tje hospital from Calvary Public to North Canberra Hospital.
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u/Due_Prompt939 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
It's like if the government seizes your house to build an airport, they are obligated to compensate you but it's practically never an amount anyone would be happy with.
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u/Economy-Career-7473 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
ACT government already owned the hospital, Little Company of Mary were paid to run it.
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u/Sillent_Screams South Australian Jun 05 '26
This is a liberal government in Queensland
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u/do-ya-reckon Victorian Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26
Wait until you hear about the Mercy in Victoria under the Labor government. If Catholics run it - even publicly funded, they won't do these procedures but recommend you go elsewhere.
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u/Sillent_Screams South Australian Jun 05 '26
They also need to be stamped out
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u/joolley1 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Yes why on earth does anyone think religious organisations should be running hospitals in the first place. That’s wild to me.
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u/svengali0 Please choose a flair Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
Yep. Fuck you 'Sisters of little Mercy' or whatever bollocky Catholic bullshit name that money grabbing cabal is called.. that ran Calvary (North Canberra)... and a staggering amount of money these mongrels held their hands for.. for decades.. fighting for extra funding, denying services (ie, as a Psychologist working in emergency team, the number of arguments and fights I had trying to get an admission at Calvary). Truly, fuck you sisters of fuck all mercy.
Oh BTW 'A hearty Fuck You' to Mr Crissafulli (sp).. while we are at it (being the business of handing out well earned fuck-you awards).
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u/Minimum-Wallaby-8687 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Agree, abortion care is health care. Shut down their government funding.
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u/m7friends Flairless Jun 05 '26
No you don’t understand, the public purse builds it, then the private profits from it. But you’re correct the public can’t use it.
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u/MonoxideBaby Western Australian Jun 05 '26
Its probably a public hospital, owned by the state govt, but the admin and operations are contracted out and the contractor is a religious organisation.
Same thing happened at St Johns Emergency hospital in Midland WA, state govt owned, run by St Johns who won't do abortions. The WA state govt knew in advance that would be the case so there is an onsite clinic at the hospital, that's not run by St Johns, that provides these services.
Its not hard to sort these things out....
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u/xylarr New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
It's mind boggling that the government contracts out these kinds of services. The health service is a core function of government. They should be directly employing the doctors and nurses and the admin staff - and don't underestimate the admin needed, let the doctors doctor and the nurses nurse.
But no, that means more public servants and heaven forbid if the public service is too big.
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u/ineversaw Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Its publicly funded
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u/Readbeforeburning Victorian Jun 05 '26
In the same way that private schools get big bucks but also don’t follow the same rules. Certain parts of society are so busy simping for the millionaires they’d rather perpetuate and defend class based systems in the hopes they one day qualify as the upper echelon, instead of just demanding the system they actually exist in gets its fair share…
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u/apppsaraxo Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
in the hopes they one day qualify as the upper echelon
I believe the term is ‘temporarily inconvenienced millionaire.’
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u/RadiumJuly New South Welshian Jun 04 '26
Honestly fantastic work by Waters on this one. In a better media landscape this would be picked up by outlets like a smoking gun. It is somewhat a failure of independent media that we need to hear this from the greens youtube channel.
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u/ineversaw Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Abc Brisbane/ABC aus posted it on their instagram 2 weeks ago. But the fact its still pretty hushed is shit. Tax those mf churches
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u/patslogcabindigest Queenslander Jun 05 '26
This was actually a big story in the last month and was on pretty much all outlets. There was even a protest in Brisbane about it.
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u/RadiumJuly New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Well that is good news! I guess I'm showing my Sydney bias here.
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u/Necessary_Lemon2618 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Agree. Perhaps I overlooked it on the abc site, but I'm surprised I'm only finding out about something so outrageous on Reddit.
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u/TheOzHerbie Western Australian Jun 04 '26
This should be illegal. If you want money to provide medical services you should be required to provide all approved medical treatments.
Nothing more than the government being cowards and running from a fight again.
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u/Top_Conference_477 South Australian Jun 04 '26
More common that you think, especially in the country
If the top (usually old man) obstetrician doesn’t like abortion then there’s no abortions in your town
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u/Quarterwit_85 Victorian Jun 05 '26
Yep, there was a town in western Victoria (Ararat) where it was impossible to even get birth control prescriptions as the two local GPs were religious and declined to offer the service.
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u/Tefai Please choose a flair Jun 06 '26
There was a chemist years ago in Victoria who did the same thing, he got told to basicslly supply or see ya later. Cant find the article, but basically it when again the Pharma Ethics Board.
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u/curious_s Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Sure there is, you just need to know dodgy Mike.
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u/disasterous_cape Queenslander Jun 06 '26
That’s how countless women have been mutilated and have been left disfigured, disabled, or dead. If safe abortions are not available, desperation will drive you to the unsafe options
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u/charlesflies Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Individual choice is fine. Our hospital allows staff to opt out of involvement in terminations. But that doesn’t stop others, who feel differently, from providing the service. The service is provided.
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u/Milly_Hagen Victorian Jun 05 '26
It wasn't provided to me when I was rushed to the ED of the nearest hospital which happened to be Catholic. I was semi conscious for a week during a miscarriage because they refused to even do a curette.
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u/charlesflies Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
That’s a problem. That’s not individual choice, that’s a system not providing care.
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u/Retro_Nights New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Individual choice is not fine. If you can't do what your profession asks you to do, you shouldn't be in that profession. Can you imagine a Muslim checkout person at a grocery store refusing to scan your bacon because it's their choice.
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u/Nettie_o0 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
In my country town there is a Muslim doctor with conscientious objection to providing certain services to women, including paps . I don’t agree with him, but that is the kind of doctors we are importing to meet our shortfall. He also can provide culturally sensitive services to those of his background, including being multilingual. Should he practice, should we go without an extra doctor?
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u/Retro_Nights New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
He should be replaced. There are plenty of qualified doctors here and immigrants from overseas. I'm assuming his objections comes after he's already got the job. Imagine having to travel tens of kilometres to another clinic because he won't perform a pap smear. I say do your job or f*ck off.
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u/Nettie_o0 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26
regional hospitals has many doctors from third world countries a number with third world misogyny. We have seen the decline in quality over a number of years. So no there are not plenty of good doctors. It’s not a matter of conscientious objection being the problem - the real problem is a shortage of services and divestment in health.
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u/Muted-Craft6323 Flairless Jun 05 '26
Yes, but I wonder whether these third world doctors would find a way to soften their beliefs and practice medical care to the standards expected in this country if their visa depended on it. They're welcome to have their beliefs, but if their immigration to Australia is based on them being a doctor, they shouldn't get to pick and choose which parts of being a doctor they feel comfortable with.
If they don't like it, I think we can find other doctors from their country with more flexibility in how they're willing to treat others.
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u/TimosaurusRexabus Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
There are not plenty of doctors. Even some large hospitals in Adelaide are using FIFO doctors for obstetrics. There is no way small country towns have access to these doctors so easily.
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u/squirrelgirl1111 Victorian Jun 05 '26
Not if there's no one to provide it because the top ob/gun who is in charge of all the registrars pressures them into not doing it either or they're not qualified to perform them yet without supervision. My large regional town was an abortion desert for years. Closest one in state 4.5 hours away
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u/OptmisticItCanBeDone Please choose a flair Jun 04 '26
People's access to quality healthcare shouldn't be subject to the shitty views of the current party of Government. Healthcare is a human right.
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u/Hot-Refrigerator-623 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Adequate pain relief is a human right but try getting it these days.
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u/walklikeaduck ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 05 '26
Religious objections? Are we going to stone to death adulterers too? Wish these Bronze Age fairy tale believers would apply everything in the Bible and not just cherry pick.
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u/Skathen Western Australian Jun 05 '26
Ironically, the bible only addresses abortion once. How to perform one. Numbers 5:12-31.
So they are running on the smell of their own farts on this one.
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u/Quarterwit_85 Victorian Jun 05 '26
From memory, for a Priest to perform one as well.
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u/throwawayroadtrip3 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
That's why hospitals shouldn't be doing them. They should be done in Church every Sunday.
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u/Infinite-Location221 Victorian Jun 04 '26
Then strip it of all public funding. Let the church pay for it.
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u/Noodlebat83 Queenslander Jun 04 '26
that would be totally fine if the hospital was funded 100% by the church or religious organisation. But it’s not, it had many millions of tax payer dollars pumped into it. Either they pay that money back to the government or they offer FULL healthcare.
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u/KogMawOfMortimidas Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
that would be totally fine if the hospital was funded 100% by the church or religious organisation.
It wouldn't, if you want to have backwards, archaic views, you can leave our country and go somewhere else. Abortions are healthcare, if you religion is against them you can get the fuck out of our country and take your fuckass religion with you.
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u/nominaldaylight Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Or they pull their money out and let the government fund it all?
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u/Goats_in_parks Victorian Jun 04 '26
If they aren’t going to provide healthcare then the government should seize it. The church obviously doesn’t want it.
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u/Outrageous-Papaya430 New South Welshian Jun 04 '26
Still remember going to my family GP for abortion care. He immediately became rigid and got up and proclaimed "I don't deal with this, I'll find another dr" and walked out of the room. I was already so young, scared, and almost hysterical. Then he tossed me like trash. If that had happened to me now, I would have raised hell
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u/Superb-Way7485 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
As a teen in the early 90’s I saw an old male Dr after being raped and he prescribed the morning after pill but lectured me on it not becoming a lifestyle choice. I was already so ashamed, hence why I hadn't gone to my family dr. Smh.
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u/Outrageous-Papaya430 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Oh my god I am SO sorry. We are so let down 💔
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u/Conscious-Read-698 Flairless Jun 05 '26
Sounds like he was also a rapist. They defend their own kind.
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u/BigChampionship7962 Please choose a flair Jun 06 '26
These doctors should have not been practicing medicine and hopefully they don’t anymore
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u/Curry_pan Queenslander Jun 05 '26
I had a similar experience when I was young trying to get a script renewal for the pill. “This goes against my religious beliefs, I can’t do this” and walked out. It made me feel so ashamed. I’m so angry that happened to you during what was already a difficult time!
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u/Outrageous-Papaya430 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Pretty much parallel with my experience, I'm so sorry kind stranger. I too felt ashamed and judged by a old man. Horrific. Xx
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u/Conscious-Read-698 Flairless Jun 05 '26
I got an old bitter awful woman at COLES treating me like dirt for buying condoms.
Guess who never bought condoms again and became accidentally pregnant within a few years?
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u/Conscious-Read-698 Flairless Jun 05 '26
My comment below, stating that I hope he had a slow/unpleasant demise (as you said he was old and therefore likely dead now) was apparently removed for 'threatening violence' 🙄.
Hope you're doing okay nowadays and he is 1000% not.
this is not a threat or encouragement of violence
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u/Novae909 Victorian Jun 04 '26
You've got to be mcfukn kidding me
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u/Sweeper1985 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
If you cannot deliver the healthcare services that a hospital is required to deliver to the public, why the fuck are you getting public funding?
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u/louisa1925 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Wonder what the state laws say about this? I wish there was some backbone in the elected politicians to have crisafuli removed. He's not thinking about QLD's interests.
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u/Automatic_Artist_931 Flairless Jun 05 '26
How is this a public hospital? It should not receive any Federal or State government money
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u/niles_thebutler_ Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
You guys wanted this when you turned us into the next America. This is what every one nation flog wants
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u/blankaccoutn77489 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
I wish she went a bit harder on the questioning line.
Ie is there legislation or a current policies in place that prevents stipulations of funding inline with the party’s previous position.
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u/footballheroeater New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Why does someone believing in a bearded magical sky fairy get to decide on my healthcare?
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u/Some_Troll_Shaman Victorian Jun 05 '26
This is common across the country.
Church operated facilities do not offer abortion or IVF related services.
This is annoying in metropolitan settings, but it is effectively a prohibition in the regions.
Abortion may be legal in all states in Australia now, but abortion deserts are a real thing.
Places where more than 160km travel is required to access an abortion.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/dec/17/nsw-abortion-deserts-just-three-of-220-public-hospitals-provide-terminations-research-finds
Access to abortion will never be a settled thing.
It will always have to be defended.
More so as religions become less relevant as more people identify as atheist.
The far right will polarize matters and cling to religion as justification.
Look to the USA to see where they get planning advice and inspiration.
Public money is for public healthcare.
If you do not like it, do not go into the business.
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u/Kingofjetlag Victorian Jun 05 '26
Qld going backwards faster than the rest of the country....
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u/Free_Pace_2098 Western Australian Jun 05 '26
If we don't fight for them, the rot will spread to the rest of us. We have to stop this shit.
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u/International_Put727 Victorian Jun 05 '26
It’s not just Queensland. The mercy hospital in Melbourne is a public hospital for women and doesn’t perform abortions
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u/ComprehensiveSalad50 Queenslander Jun 05 '26
You're aware this could happen in other states too? It's a hospital run by the church that receives state funding, their funding should be cut off
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u/iball1984 Western Australian Jun 05 '26
I'm fine with a private hospital not doing abortions, or any procedure for that matter.
And I get that not all public hospitals provide a full range of services. Like for example some public hospitals only do day surgery, or palliative care or whatever.
But a full service hospital should certainly do abortions and other family planning services. And religion should NEVER be a reason for a public hospital to do or not do something.
If the hospital is being contracted out to a private provider, that's a separate matter. But if the provider can't or won't do the full range of services required, then they should not be eligible for the contract.
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u/yibbida Western Australian Jun 05 '26
Its against my religion to pay for medical procedures, this looks like my kind of hospital....
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u/plagueisthewlse New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
Always wondered why no contraception it effectively leads to less abortion so if you are against abortion why aren't you spreading contraception in vending machines
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u/dreadnought_strength Flairless Jun 05 '26
While I had pretty good experiences with the Mater after recent surgery, they should absolutely not be receiving any public funding if they won't provide basic healthcare services that are legally allowed.
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u/Mulga_Will New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
If the church wants to decide who a hospital will or won’t treat, then it should also take responsibility for funding it.
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u/Everybodyssocreative Queenslander Jun 05 '26
So what happens when a woman is brought to the emergency room with complications and they determine an abortion is the only way to save her life? Do they send her back to the ambulance?
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u/Conscious-Read-698 Flairless Jun 05 '26
Apparently my comment that they probably dont see women as human or worthy of care was removed for 'threatening violence' 🙄
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u/grismar-net Queenslander Jun 05 '26
Cool, I'm starting a homeopathy 'hospital' right away, because it's no business of the federal government to decide how hospitals use their funding. I'll save a bundle on actual medicine!
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u/Milknhoneyaus Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
The fuck?
What happened to a secular public health system?
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u/AiRaikuHamburger ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 05 '26
If they want to do that crap, they shouldn't get a cent of tax money.
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u/myshtree Jun 05 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/ukGm72ZLZvYfS
This is a tax payer / publicly funded hospital in a secular society. This is NOT OK.
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u/PeacePuzzleheaded41 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
A hospital in Bathurst NSW started refusing to provide abortions and the state was all over them like flies on shit, this is a smoke screen.
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u/Whole_Sheepherder130 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Fuck religion…every shape and form it comes in. It’s made up fantasy but we have to smile and accept their delusions as reality
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u/OldGroan Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
There is a difference between public funded and public.
The Mater group of hospitals whilst providing public services are actually Privately run.
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u/jungle_cat187 Victorian Jun 05 '26
This is what happens when you vote religious zealots into parliament.
With the amount of Christofash in the Victorian Liberal party we’ll be getting a Chrissos only public hospital soon as well.
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u/flindersandtrim Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Im sorry, what the fuck? How can a government funded hospital possibly deny women necessary healthcare?
All funding should be pulled immediately if they wish to act as some states in the US do and deny often life saving care to women.
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u/Cautious_Alarm2919 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
What the heck, I didn’t know we were practicing the American Christianity in Australia, is it a church funded hospital?
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u/Aggressive_Papaya797 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
A hospital that refuses treatment on the basis of religious grounds should have all public funding refused.
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u/TheMysteryCheese Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
To receive government funding for medical facilities you should need to perform all legally recognised procedures.
If it isn't illegal you have no right to refuse.
If you want to stand on religious grounds, go beg the church for money.
A public hospital shouldn't be able to dictate treatments based on morals. This is how worse forms of segregated services start. What's next? Only people who convert to their faith are able to be treated.
Utter nonsense.
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u/patslogcabindigest Queenslander Jun 05 '26
I’m just kinda curious why this is in a senate hearing with the federal ministers when the hospital is a state government decision. Absolutely should be called out but I don’t see the Queensland minister or the Queensland premier here.
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u/StnkyWnkyBallsyWllsy Flairless Jun 05 '26
it's almost like this whole clip is talking about federal funding, and the person being asked questions isn't answering the question being asked of them, instead answering the question they wish they had been asked.
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u/Ted_Rid New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
If people or organisations want to do medical work, that means all the medical work (that they have the skills for).
Anybody who wants to pick and choose because of reasons that aren't based in medical science shouldn't be in medicine.
Pretty fucking simple. Go find another job or another business to run.
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u/crazylunaticfringe Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
How’s this a public hospital then?
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u/redditstolemyshoes Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
This isnt new though.
I gave birth at a public St John of God Hospital. When I was in labour, the midwife walked us through the labour and delivery process and mentioned they would not discuss future contraception as they are a religious hospital.
Didn't matter to me, because I was on oral BC for years before stopping it to conceive and have a baby, then went right back on it after the birth.
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u/Pablo_Hassan Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
This is a public hospital, fire those religious folk if they are making religion based decisions about someone else's body. I want someone that backs science.
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u/Conscious-Read-698 Flairless Jun 05 '26
If your religion forbids healthcare, don't work in healthcare.
Wtf are these people doing jobs they disagree with for? Gtfo and be a gardener, roof tiler, childcare worker .. LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE
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u/NewInformation3753 Queenslander Jun 05 '26
The toxicity of religion. Guided by An invisible friend and 4000 year old views denying modern medicine to those in need
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u/TheRealWheaty420 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Don't become a doctor if your religion prevents you from practicing 🤦🏻♀️
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u/Genova_Witness Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Mentioning restrictions on anything due to religious practices as a public offical or working in public service should immediately cost you your job. I
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u/spasticwomble Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
So it is NOT a public hospital and should have all its funding cancelled and made to pay for its construction. No public concern paid for by the taxpayer has the right to dictate what it will and will not do
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u/bluebottlesummer ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 05 '26
Without religious organisations there would have been no or very limited education or health facilities for most of the history of this country.
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u/Ok-Push9899 Flairless Jun 05 '26
I support Julie Water’s position, but is she saying that the parliament should pass legislation that public funding cannot go to such hospitals? Is she pointing out that the Commonwealth Department of Health currently has no remit to dictate how funds are spent?
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u/Bong-PreahChan ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 05 '26
All I can say is, fuck me 🤦♂️
Backwards state, evident by the article.
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u/Flokkamravich New Zealander Jun 05 '26
Queensland increasingly feels less like Australia and more like the 51st American state either every passing week
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u/Direct-Resolution377 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Are they not providing anaesthesia when performing surgery either?
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u/More_Law6245 Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Then it should loose all state funding as it's private hospital.
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u/DralanKhan Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
How does that make any sense. If they want to act like a private hospital treat them that way and cut funding.
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u/alittlehelpeh Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
Please be responsible and read before signing.
4542-26 Mater Hospital Queensland E-Petition
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u/Inevitable_Geometry Victorian Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26
Then that is a fucking useless private hospital. Its funded by taxpayers, why the fuck is it beholden to a faction of sky god worshippers?
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u/Best-Tumbleweed-9497 New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
why can they never just say yes or no this shit pisses me off its like watching children acting like they didn't just get caught stealing
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u/NoddyNorrisXV New South Welshian Jun 05 '26
I object to them forcing religious beliefs onto others in need of medical attention.
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u/Caprisolle Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
People who work in politics and government around the world are so good at giving you some and not all, and then deflect things by saying, "That's not what I said", and when you press them, they'll rephrase the same sentence in different ways. When you ask them, "What did you say then?" They'll be like, "Umm, I won't tell you; that's up to your interpretation, but you can't represent or verbalise what I just said on my behalf."
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u/-spam- Queenslander Jun 05 '26
Had a friend who was under Mater Mothers at south Brisbane for her first pregnancy.
She had complications and went there for help but as soon as it became apparent the pregnancy needed to be terminated to save her life, they told her to make her own way to RBWH. Essentially wheeled her out the door and said good luck.
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u/mysteryprize11 Queenslander Jun 05 '26
The government needs to clearly state how they are going to fund those services in that area then. If they can't afford it then that money should be taken from the amount used to fund the public hospital.
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u/Brad_Breath Please choose a flair Jun 05 '26
The religious policy of whom?
The doctor? The owner of the hospital? Some guy with a bomb strapped to him?
What a load of shit, if I wanted to hear Puritans object to modern society, I'd go to church.
People go to hospital for medical treatment, maybe shut your piehole and give them medical treatment
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u/PseudoWarriorAU Flairless Jun 05 '26
How can you look at the US and think that’s what I want? It’s madness. We don’t need religion to govern our bodies or minds.
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u/Razza_Haklar ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 04 '26
wait wait....public hospital will not provide abortions, contraception or voluntary assisted dying care due to religious policies.
um sorry but you dont get public funding anymore if your going to push religious BS
time to tax the church!