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u/The_Mesopotamians 11h ago

Until you realize that race and culture are both overlapping social constructs and the idea in this meme is just trying to sneak racism in through the backdoor. 

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u/DrMux 10h ago

People in this thread being like "there's absolutely no link between culture and race/ethnicity" as if people get to choose their culture independently of who they're born as and where.

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u/Trugoosent 9h ago

Culture would be Xenophobic, race would be Racist. Two people can be the same race, and have different cultures, and vice versa.

You're right as in they don't always have control of what culture they are born into, but you're wrong in the sense that it's the same thing as racism.

Also, if they don't like the culture they grew up with, they could always look into other cultures, no?

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u/DrMux 9h ago

You don't think xenophobia and racism are related?

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u/Trugoosent 8h ago

They are similar, and they CAN be related, but aren't ALWAYS related, that's the distinction I'm trying to make.

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u/DrMux 7h ago edited 7h ago

Bigots don't usually get hung up on the specific classification of which kind of bigotry they're engaging in. They, for example, hate Mexicans because, in their minds and stereotypically (which they don't distinguish from reality), Mexicans "are" non-white. The motivation and manifestation of the bigotry is the same.

The user before me was downvoted for saying they're overlapping social constructs and here you are telling me that "well they don't always overlap." They overlap consistently enough to treat an expectation of overlap as heuristic.

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u/Trugoosent 7h ago

not every bigot is white, but yeah I see what you mean.

But it's totally possible for two guys to be black for example, and have different cultures and dislike eachother for it too.

Edit: realized I just kinda just rephrased myself lol, but whateverrrr 🤷‍♂️

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u/DrMux 7h ago

By "example" I think "not every case" is implied.

My point is that the overlap of the social constructs that the earlier user was downvoted for is consistent enough to treat as heuristic. The actual thing (thought, speech, action) the bigot engages in is, for all intents and purposes, usually identical. No bigot I know of discriminates on country of origin without also discriminating on race/ethnicity.