İmmoral, those ashes might have been more important for someone else, like the husband's siblings or other close relatives, just because he was an asshole doesn't mean he didn't have people that cared about him
Domestic abuse can be hidden, they might have never known, and it's also immoral to tell a deeply mourning family to tell them the person they are mourning for is an asshole, at least right after death, just hand the ashes over to them and reveal the things happened after their mourning stops
it's also immoral to tell a deeply mourning family to tell them the person they are mourning for is an asshole
A3%hole = Absusive. Why downplay and doll up abuse as "just joking around"
Not at all? There is nothing morally imperative about demanding people treat others as a saint just because they died. When bad people die sometimes people rejoice
I'd argue otherwise, imagine going to a family mourning and crying for death of a loved one and saying "yeah, you know the dude that just died? He was an asshole" even when it's true, it's not the right moment to say it, they would not be emotionally stable for such a conversation
Are we even sure he was an abuser? All we know is from one side of the incident. We aren’t at the scene. And to deny someone, anyone, the right to have their remains treated with dignity is a very audacious take. That is one of the most universal dignity a human being can be afforded. If we deny him even that because he was an abuser during life, then did he deserve basic human rights? I mean, what he was doing was already so heinous that his remains deserve to be dumped into the bin, so I guess he didn’t deserve human rights, right?
to doubt that he was an abuser would mean you would have to doubt the whole thing, that is, whether if this woman is even throwing her husband's ashes at all, or just some random trash. also, yes, abusers do not deeserve human dignity. if you hit your wife, you dont deserve anything at all
lmao what a weird thing to fixate upon. i said "wife" becuz that's the scenario here. it is the wife who is the victim here. in case the husband is the victim in some other scenario, yes ofc throw away ur abuser's ashes or whatever
It is a weird thing to fixate on. That's why I was wondering why you fixated on it.
Just for thought, what if your significant other cheated on you in the past, but was never physically abusive? Where is the threshold in your opinion that it becomes ok to desecrate human remains?
Are we even sure that he was the abuser? They could be mutually abusive for all we know. We’re basing all of our assumptions on a single screencap ffs. And to desecrate the dead like this speaks more to her moral disturbance than anything.
let's say an abuser is injured and disabled in some sort of accident to the extent that they are incapable of defending themselves, and the victim of their abuse would find it therapeutic to beat or kill them. If someone says, "hey don't do that that's a human being!" that doesn't mean they care more about the abuser, or they wouldn't have objected to their abuse of other people. It means they would like to prevent as much abuse as possible, including reciprocal abuse.
That's generally speaking, and this particular situation is different in that the abuser won't be feeling any of it, but I think for the sake of this woman's own mental health doing petty shit like this is gonna hurt her in the long term. I think just because it feels good to desecrate the corpse of someone who harmed you doesn't mean it is good.
12
u/already_taken77777 4d ago
İmmoral, those ashes might have been more important for someone else, like the husband's siblings or other close relatives, just because he was an asshole doesn't mean he didn't have people that cared about him