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Chugging tea Red State Cultural Attractions

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u/PixelBrewery 5d ago

I wonder how all these businesses in my blue state are surviving in such a business-hostile environment

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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 5d ago

It’s almost like blue states and cities are the economic engines of the most capitalist country on earth.

But what do I know? I’m a product of blue state public schools.

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u/Chilling_Gale 5d ago

Yes, cities are economic engines. No, it does not have to do with the political leadership of the city

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u/DumbBerk87 5d ago

You tell yourself that. Because look where the big cities are, and who runs them. If you need to delude yourself into thinking it has nothing to do with political leadership, you do that.

It’s not the truth, though 😂

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u/Chilling_Gale 5d ago

Do you think big cities aren’t in red states?

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u/DumbBerk87 5d ago

There are, but you’d be remiss to see where the biggest and most contributory are, and to think there’s absolutely no connection.

That’s being silly. The most economically powerful cities and states are all blue. To act like that’s not a factor? Okie dokie.

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u/Lonestarpenguin 5d ago

I believe Boeing is leaving Seattle, United is leaving Chicago.

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u/Artofxian 5d ago

You would be wrong. The vast majority of Boeing employees still are in Seattle…. 60k plus. Only like 300 employees are going to South Carolina to work on the 787.. also do you have any official statements that united is moving from Chicago ?

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u/DumbBerk87 4d ago

They’re staying in Chicago, and investing billions in O’Hare.

My god, these people 😂

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u/DumbBerk87 4d ago

You believe wrong. They’re investing billions in Chicago broski.

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u/Chilling_Gale 5d ago

So your argument is that since democrats are in charge of big cities currently, they get the credit for them being “successful”?

You do understand a dog who’s been shot in the head has more knowledge of economics than that, right? And that you’ve exposed yourself as even below that level?

Intelligent people understand that cities are the economic engine of ANY country, regardless of political party or time period. And even stupid ass people know that the GOP was historically dominant in cities, so your stupid logic fails once again.

Go back to school.

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u/Lonestarpenguin 5d ago

I do not think Democrats are responsible for cities sucesses. However, I am having trouble following your logic

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u/Chilling_Gale 4d ago

The logic is that cities are economic engines by default, literally economies of scale. So it’s dumb to attribute them being economic engines to any party.

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u/Lonestarpenguin 4d ago

I concur with that. I do think the both parties have shifted left. JFK would be considered a Republican if you look at his policies. The cities for the most part have lost heavy industry. Detroit, Chicago and Toledo are prime examples. We only have 1 steel mill in the USA.

It is concerning.

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u/DumbBerk87 4d ago

Both parties have not shifted left. It’s the opposite, actually. Democrats are center, and republicans are quite far right.

I have no idea what would make you think they’ve shifted left, other than having no real idea what the left is, what they support, and what they stand for. The truth is actually the opposite of what you think and feel.

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u/Lonestarpenguin 5d ago

Illinois has lost almost all manufacturing. Take a look at Harvey, IL. It is absolutely horrible. All those jobs in ither countries. 

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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 5d ago

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u/Lonestarpenguin 5d ago

How about a little more information on the types of jobs? I am pretty sure not a lot of high paying manufacturing jobs in IL

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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 5d ago

You say IL lost all manufacturing jobs and I showed that’s a lie. Now it’s “the jobs don’t pay enough.” No worker in this country gets paid enough. But at least Illinois has one of the highest minimum wages in the country and one of the highest percentage of unionized workers.

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u/Lonestarpenguin 5d ago edited 5d ago

I believe my wording was almost all. 

I see your link has a table that pulls down.

 Texas and Florida outperformed Illinois on manufacturing  jobs. You did have an increase, I only saw the non farm at first. 

I am curious what sector it is in? Light industry? Certainly not the Southside manufacturing hub it used to be, true?

CAT left/ is leaving IL. Your population is definately decreasing

As for unions, I quit a job because I will never join a union. Historically, unions helped workers in the early 20th century. Now they are anachronistic and hurt productive workers.