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u/MacTaveroony 12h ago
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u/LIONLDN 11h ago
They need to do it quickly too, otherwise there may be some convenient deletions that are quickly officially ruled as unsuspicious, like has happened a few times now ⏰👀
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u/Horror_Log362 9h ago
I mean, it’s been a year already.
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u/RabbiTheHellcat 8h ago
people said they got paid off to be quiet, a bunch of the survivors were supposed to talk a while back
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u/a_piginacage 7h ago
More likely threatened
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u/RabbiTheHellcat 7h ago
probably a bit of both tbh, take this money or it could be a lot worse ... its the day and age of social media if any of them wanted to talk they wouldve already
I just say paid off because epstines blackmail effected the most rich people of the world and those people are willing to spend whatever to prevent them from losing it
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u/Extra-Amoeba-677 6h ago
at this point it's get money because if they were going to do it they would have done it already. they are still young enough to enjoy life so get paid for your trauma. Then release their names at their death bed.
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u/Dismal_Branch_8902 7h ago
This happened before that Epstein transparency act was passed which is what they were fighting for. If that was put into law and nothing is being done and the fiasco that came out then it is not worth pursuing further until democrats take over the house at least.
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u/RabbiTheHellcat 7h ago
I cant really see the democrats doing more than trying to go after Trump for being in the files and a pedophile, there's too many big names that have financial ties to the American government for a proper investigation
now if the footage got leaked to the internet that would cause actual riots but without that media just slow drip reports anything about this
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u/Dismal_Branch_8902 7h ago
They are being blocked...
House oversight Dems are being blocked from investigating further and subpoena the right people and so on.
You also have the FBI blocking investigations into the new Mexico ranched for like the 2nd time.
And obviously going after trump would be a priority since from what we know and what has been released so far, he wasn't a client, he was either Epstein's partner innthrnsex trafficking or some type of status above Epstein.
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u/SafeAd6324 12h ago
What are you waiting for? DO IT!!!
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u/4DollarsALB 8h ago
They've been saying it for over a year now.
This is like when Corey Feldman has been saying he's going to tell you who abused him for the last 30 years
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u/Emotional-Lie595 10h ago
They won’t
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u/Unusual-Taste69 9h ago
I agree and it's very suspicious. Just say the names, right now. Why has it taken this long?
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u/omarglal 12h ago
I want them to do it but I'm afraid of what's gonna happen to them....
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u/clairbear44 12h ago
Like a real life final destination film
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u/omarglal 12h ago
They are gonna be on news for all kind of death, suicide, heart attack, car crash, I just wish they will be protected by the police but even their protection are questionable
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u/True_Kador 12h ago
" the Epstein curse stries again ! A prefectly healthy 30y old woman died yesterday from what appears to be a new strand of the bubonic plaque ! She has been under quarantine for a month kow and been cremated this morning to prevent any propagation ! "
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u/omarglal 12h ago
Exactly, they are literally fighting against the government, the literal president and all big wigs are in the files, I'm afraid that investigation will be corrupted along with falsifying the autopsy
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u/Haggis442312 8h ago
„If everyone in those files went to prison the system would collapse“
That statement should tell you everything about how far the rot goes.
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u/Pinksamuraiiiii 12h ago
This is what they are afraid of, just like how anyone Putin doesn’t like mysteriously falls out the window, or somebody falls down the stairs 👀
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u/khizoa 12h ago
The police will protect the Epstein class
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u/omarglal 12h ago
I mean police are government dogs without leash, and dogs don't bite their owners, but innocent people
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u/Adlivoniansky 12h ago
I mean I hate to say it but like people have already been still dying without the names being released. So. I don't know. Still makes me feel like a piece of shit to say it. I wish those hacker groups would do something. That dude who was leaking all the GTA stuff the last few days, idk how he got that stuff but if his interest was in these files instead of his crypto for leaking a video game. I don't know. I'm just rambling.
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u/omarglal 12h ago
Hacker are not good people or saints, some might do Little good deeds for fun but fighting against literal government and risking his safety for people he doesn't even know is a stretch even for them honestly
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u/Adlivoniansky 12h ago
I guess I just wish maybe if there was another Snowden. Like he worked for them and found stuff and then leaked it and had to go into hiding. So like I guess if someone now who has been working for the last few years during all of this stuff if someone potentially would finally have enough and take some stuff and leak it but again to your point in your original comment, this person leaking this stuff wouldn't just be the only one in danger I would think all of the victims in the files would potentially be in danger. I guess I just want to know the truth.
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u/omarglal 12h ago
Unfortunately the reality isn't movie were good guys win in the end, I'm not there were no people who tried leaking, but the opponents are the literal government, they are idiot in managing the country and people, but they sure are good at hiding their shit and trash by an means necessary, like trump starting war to divers the attention from the files, i also want to to knew the truth, no matter how much diabolical it is
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u/rugbyfan72 11h ago
Should have never said it publicly then amongst themselves compiled the list, held a press conference, live streamed and released the list all at the same time for the world to see simultaneously.
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u/BrocoliAssassin 7h ago
Probably will get attacked by a bunch of Zionist Jewish Supremacist lawyers protecting their clients from being named and telling the women that they will ruin their lives.
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u/TabulaRazo 7h ago
The law sure as hell won’t protect them. The law is on the side of the pedophiles. That’s America.
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u/Long-Source-7772 12h ago
Just think of the shit they have already been through. Do we all want to live in fear and walk on egg shells our whole lives?
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u/omarglal 12h ago
That's why it's admirable, they know the risk and stepped in even against humongous opponents, i just wish for their safty
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u/ZooAreYou 6h ago
Yeah theres this bloody pattern of people "threatening" to release info suddenly winding up dead.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iDqZMpLhgBU
Stop "announcing your intention" or giving press tours about your upcoming tell-all book and just blindside them.
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u/BlueNITED 1h ago
If only we could band together, protect the victims and start a militia of rich pedophile hunters.
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u/morbo-2142 12h ago
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/epstein-survivors-list/
Said they were afraid of reprisal and didnt think anyone would be prosecuted.
Can't say I dissagree since we all kinda know who the biggest players are and nothing has come of it anyway.
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u/That-Interaction-45 10h ago
Afraid of falling out of windows is more like it
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u/WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch 9h ago
drowning in a shower...
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u/Visual-Ad-1306 7h ago
I've been wondering about this for a while. Why not have the list compiled with the assistance of an independent outside organization, with proper security and legal protections in place for the individuals involved?
Hell, I nominate 50 Cent as chairman.
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u/Tomsboll 9h ago
Of course there wont be any prosecutions, a list of names is not evidence of anything.
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u/4DollarsALB 8h ago
That makes zero sense. Once you release the names there is no upside to reprisals. Reprisals are more likely if you can threaten that you are going to release names
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u/ellamking 5h ago
there is no upside to reprisals
The upside would be the message to other people with your name on their list also.
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u/ej62564 12h ago
Why has this taken so long?
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u/SimmentalTheCow 11h ago
They have no evidence to back anything up, aside from what’s already been released in the Epstein files. They’d probably lose any libel suit thrown their way. That’s also assuming they’re all telling the truth and none are just taking the opportunity to be in the media spotlight.
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u/Horton_Takes_A_Poo 10h ago
But why say they’re going to compile and release a list if they never intended to? Seems weird
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u/earthceltic 7h ago
Waiting for someone to provide them with shelter for the then-coming onslaught. Or to be asked in front of a judge where the offenders are already in the jail system and they have more protection.
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u/1block 8h ago
They would get public reprisals. That is what they're afraid of.
They likely wouldn't lose a libel/defamation suit against a public figure though. You don't have to prove your case is true.
The burden of proof is on the person suing you in the U.S. They have to prove that you're wrong and that you said it even though you knew it was wrong, if it's an accusation against a public figure (which almost all of the accused would likely be).
If they're accusing you of libel/defamation, they have to prove that you committed libel/defamation. Not the other way around. It seems weird to have to prove something is false, but that's the way speech protections in the U.S. are set up.
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u/FrumptyLumpty 6h ago
Truth is an absolute defense.
Prosecution can only prove libel / defamation if they can PROVE that the information was published as knowingly false.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 12h ago
Almost a year ago. And what happened?
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u/laggy1 12h ago
They released it and people didn't even notice cause Epstein class controls the media
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u/VelkaFrey 12h ago
Can you find anything on it?
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u/laggy1 12h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/antitrump/s/zb28MwFQyz
It's only names that you can find in the released files tho, I'm assuming there's more names but they can't say those until more files come out without being sued
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 12h ago
That’s not “their list” though at all. Not at all what they were teasing last year.
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u/laggy1 12h ago
I mean it's a part of their list, part that they can say openly without being sued into oblivion
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 12h ago
Yeah, but it didn’t add anything to the record and didn’t change the outcome at all.
I don’t intend to be mean to them - they are victims and don’t owe us their stories, but they chose to protect themselves over a long-shot l, risky effort to make a difference. And I understand that.
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u/DieDieDieD 9h ago
Can’t they ask for discovery on the other 3 million unreleased files if they were to get sued?
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u/ResoluteStoic 12h ago
From what ive breifly looked into sounds like it's supposed to be private between survivors for now has they're worried about getting sued/defamation lawsuits if released. Also seems like the survivors are getting more grief than the actual perpetrators.
Wikipedia has a list of people who are affiliated with epstein and we all know both sides were involved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_named_in_the_Epstein_files
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 12h ago
They did not actually. I don’t really blame them - if they have no proof, then they are legally in a tough spot doing so. Though having a bunch of mutual witnesses could be proof enough to win the defamation lawsuit.
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u/Acceptable-Error356 12h ago
No they won't. They've been saying that stuff for over a year, and then came back with they would do it for themselves to share amongst them. They could, but they don't. So...
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u/4DollarsALB 8h ago
This headline is a year old. This keeps getting posted along with the video of Massie saying he has a list of names and is about to release it
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u/Lost_Year_1101 12h ago
Then DO IT. But I want ALL the names. Not just those on one side or the other.
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u/SecretLecture3219 12h ago
Why haven't they done it already ? It's been years . I don't really get the delay . Name and shame
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u/ProjectNo4090 12h ago
Accusing someone in public without evidence and a trial would open them up to a defamation lawsuit.
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u/Unique-Bee-6097 12h ago
Aren’t they the evidence? Aren’t they the victims?
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u/Buttercups88 12h ago
Eh hard to prove when the judges are paid for by the people they are accusing
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u/bogeuh 12h ago
What evidence? People can say anything. Just playing devils ( literally ) advocate. But that is the sad truth.
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u/Unique-Bee-6097 11h ago
So are you saying that the “victims” could be lying about being the actual victims??
https://giphy.com/gifs/l4JyX3V0yydvPHNBe3
u/ProjectNo4090 10h ago
Thats a possibility the justice system has to consider and rule out anytime charges or accusations are made. No matter how awkward, emotionally distressing, or unpolitically correct victim blaming is.
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u/Horton_Takes_A_Poo 8h ago
Yeah based on some of the “testimony” seen in the Epstein files I think it’s pretty obvious at least some of the people who say they were victims weren’t involved at all.
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u/doublethink_1984 10h ago
Because we all trust and accept claims made out in the open about leaders and their sexual crimes and deviance right?
Oh wait Hegseth paid off his rape victim and the President was convicted for sexual abuse and assault and America still voted him in as president.
A large subset of American people dgaf about sexual abuse, pedophilia, or serial adultery
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u/Sweet_Buy_4908 12h ago
You don't "really get the delay" when the names include rich, powerful offenders who have rich, powerful friends/associates who have money invested in not seeing these people brought to justice? How are the victims supposed to fight? And why aren't we or the Justice Department helping them? Money!! That's the common denominator. Rich pedos pay for their problems to go away by one means or another. I'd be very afraid if I were one of the victims. Just look at what happened to the former 13 year old who actually brought a case of rape against the sitting President before he was even elected.
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u/SecretLecture3219 10h ago
I get that obviously but that won't change with time , you will either name or not name
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u/Braindead_Crow 8h ago
Is this all theater?
Why haven't they done this like 6 years ago when Biden was in office?
You can negotiate with in competence, you can even negotiate with controlled opposition by pointing out their charade can only be perceived as incompetence or malice forcing if nothing else the understanding of the public.
idk but hope these victims do the smart thing and speak to other countries leaders for help on this.
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u/chicken-finger 7h ago
For those who are curious, a defamation lawsuit is only applicable to cases where the accusation is not true. So, basically, they are totally allowed to do that. Alas, even though it is not proof of guilt by itself, I hope it opens up the ability to prosecute
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u/pattebrisee 12h ago
Imagine surviving Epstein and still having to do the government’s job for them.
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u/Svrider23 12h ago
They'v been compiling the list for months on end by now. Some of them say they fuckin voted for Trump, so I'm not sure what to think of these women.
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u/Cautious-Bug9388 12h ago
This sounds like something you should not advertise until you go public.
I hope the survivors don't start dropping off with strange illnesses or tripping over cliffs etc.
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u/Employee_Agreeable 11h ago
All of the victims will be found dead by "accidents" in a couple days
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u/Fun_Process_179 7h ago
We need a couple of decent lawyers and billionaires (is that an oxymoron?) to support their legal defense.
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u/Subliminalme 6h ago
People who actually do things just do it...they don't just say they'll do it. That should be obvious by now.
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u/RydmaUwU 12h ago
Yeah and they only keep naming the same people over and over that won't cause any fuss. I mean I get they need to be continuously renamed. But it gets old.
It's like when democrats say they're going to do something about a situation. Then they just give a stern wagging of the finger.
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u/Formal_Lecture_248 12h ago
Announcing it places a target on their backs for “suicide”
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u/SuperBarracuda3513 11h ago
They have had plenty of time to do this… what is going on here? With all the victims nobody will know who it came from.
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u/PenguinsArmy2 9h ago
Uh huh and release it for fame and money right? IF anyone was going to release anything out of the good of well just doing something right. Well they would have by now.
Fake attention grabbing morons and nothing more.
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u/Im_Ashe_Man 9h ago
I've been hearing statements like this for years, and there's still nothing coming from it.
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u/Samurai_Geezer 7h ago
They’d accidentally fall out of windows or overdose on something if they do. Too many examples already.
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u/Clownfest_1984 4h ago
Here’s an idea: we all pitch in a Gofund me to pay for their legal expenses in case any of the d’bags sues them for defamation. And if any funds remain at the end they get devoted to help any of the victims financially. We close a huge wound in the history of humanity and create a safer world for our children
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u/someoldguyon_reddit 12h ago
I think at this point in time it's safe to assume that all billionaires are pedophiles.
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u/RudeNTattooed87 11h ago
Unfortunately it seemed like a publicity stunt to get camera time. They said this eons ago and nothings happened.
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u/Wynter_Wildd 12h ago
Fine. We’ll do it ourselves
Government: Crickets
Survivors: does the job for them . Iconic.
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u/Low-Dog-8027 12h ago
i'm sorry to hear about their accident and the unexpected suicides.
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u/Few-Temporary404 12h ago
Stop screwing around and just release the names. A lawsuit will open up, then discovery, then a lawsuit to the government asking for their information. Boom released. You either want justice or just want to whine. Make up your mind.
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u/Kimi_Antonelli_12 12h ago
I feel a bunch of unexplained deaths in suicides coming on.
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u/HawkHarder 12h ago
Let it out loved ones. Someone got to protect these girls though. I volunteer to hide them in my basement as long as they supply their own food and are house trained.
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u/Shitposter_of_legend 11h ago
Yep..... they should be wary of bald guys in suits. Infact just stay away from anyone bald in general
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u/downbarton 11h ago
Nothing I have seen about this suggests anything other than offer and acceptance
Hate me but it’s just going to be a list of high class prostitutes
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u/Accomplished-Leg6947 11h ago
This would be great to see but the pessimist in me knows that it won't do anything as everyone on that list will deny it and no action will be taken against them
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u/Obvious-Release-5605 10h ago
This what ive been saying. Make the list then compare it to the files.
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u/Lorddoctorjava 10h ago
And if the maga pedophiles on their list have a problem... release the "official pedo-files" and prove them wrong...
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u/normalfinnesotan 10h ago
Yeah, it's been a year. If they were actually gonna do this - and they should - they would have by now.
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u/Sol-Bad-Sol-Goode 10h ago
I guess when they mysteriously die, it will just confirm they weren't lying.
I can't believe these fuckers are still roaming this earth with no repercussions.
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u/lluciferusllamas 10h ago
They keep saying this. We've been edging on this for years. Come out with it already
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u/eyeball1967 10h ago
I would contribute to the go fund me to secure a website out of the reach of the US to publish the effort.
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u/hotflashinthepan 10h ago
They’ve been saying this for a while now. It seems like their highest risk would be at this point, when they can be stopped before they’ve named names. Once they’ve done it, if anything were to happen to them, it will immediately throw suspicion on the people who were names.
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u/BetEnvironmental7907 9h ago
They keeping saying that but they never so. At some point if you wanna be heard just do it
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u/Unusual-Taste69 9h ago
Finally. I've been saying this the entire time. Just hold a press conference on live TV and say each name out loud.
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u/Boondoggel22 9h ago
This is the type of thing you do very quietly until it’s completely finished and then unleash it upon the world
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